What do you mean "we", media face? (Media vs. American people)

[Fozzledick]

http://www.busybusybusy.com/b3_arc_04_0705.shtml#July05040400PM

On yesterday's Meet The Press, Andrea Mitchell (substituting for Tim Russert) displayed recent poll results indicating softening public support for Mr. Bush's unprovoked invasion of Iraq.

51% of Americans now consider the war a boo-boo, noted the NBC host. Perhaps discomfited by this she turned to a guest for consolation, and her mask slipped for a moment (all emphasis added):
So, Joe Lieberman, have we lost the American people?

Oops!

That "we" sort of gives the game away, doesn't it? Presumably, the in group of which our correspondent is a member consists not just of herself and guest but also includes at least a portion of the NBC employee's opinion-making cohort and a some subset of her interlocutor's contemporaries. And they seem to to be worried about indications that the American people are forming an unapproved opinion. Usually they don't let us see them fret like this.

[LibertyorDeath]

1. The media needs the illusion of trust

We can be trusted to bring you the News

Michael Moore & others are fighting hard to show America this trust

in the media is not warranted in fact it's dangerous.

People who take it for granted that they can trust CNN are starting to

have second thoughts.

The manufacturing of consent is starting to unravel.

This is all the corp media has it's where they get their power the ability to manufacture consent based on lies half truths & opinion.

That's why they attack Moore at all costs.

If enough Americans start to see the National Media as paid liars

Then the gig is up for corporate American media.

Moore should do a all out expose on American Corporate Media for

his next Documentary.

Far to many Americans think if CNN or NBC CBS Faux are reporting it then it must be true.

Question Everything. That's what Moore is about that's what more people need to do.

[myopic4141]

2. The trust is just an illusion.

Every second of every day, less and less of people in this country are trusting the media in its presentation of information. The fact that they believe there is any trust at all is in itself an illusion. I know that very little of what I hear and read is taken at face value without lots and lots of corroboration (almost so much that it is all; but, impossible to get enough to ferret out the truth). Without exception, what each guest of any talk show says is as predictable as the tide and sunrise. No one truly answers any question and when there is any dissent, the dissenter is belittle and berated unmercifully by guest and host alike (even to the point of having the mike turned off so as not to be able to respond). Instead of boycotting France or Canada, we should boycott the media (except for the comic section).

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. I've taken to going online

to try and find a variety of sources for news. Frankly, I'm more likely to believe something if it comes from a Canadian or European source than an American one.

[ixion]

4. yeah, I don't even bother with newspapers and broadcast news anymore

so much disinformation and flat-out lies and blatant propaganda.

The internet has become the ONLY source for real news, IMHO.

[dumpster_baby]

6. you should have seen Charlie Rose attack Michael Moore last night

He NEVER goes after any of the rightwing propagandists like he did with Moore last night. He did it with a friendly smile, but he interrupting and overriding like crazy.

Don't worry, once broadband becomes $20/month and you can buy computers for $300, most americans will be downloading free homebrew TV shows and movies off of peer to peer networks, and CorpGovMedia's propaganda game will be at endgame.

[myopic4141]

9. I did see Charlie Rose;

but, it was via the internet. Charlie was rude and persistent in interrogating Moore; however, he was not attacking as viciously as the right wing pundits nor did he inject the type of statements that Joe Scarbourough such as "Moore wishes that American soldiers get killed" when Joe mischaracterized Moore's statement about American soldiers dying as long as they remain in Iraq. Soldiers die in war zones whether we wish or do not wish they do not. It is a fact of war; but, no one seems willing to begin the countering of the "wish for death" characterization with that one fact. It would be more effective than going straight to Shrubby's decision for keeping them there.
The problem with the internet solution is that the rift will become greater between the sides because no one will cross talk. Instead, everyone will live in their own little corners isolated from each other. Such isolation will only intensify the coarseness of the discourse relieving all from the responsibility of civility which in turn leads to greater hostilities. This aspect was the one problem I found in Tofler's "Future Shock" world which was yet to be addressed. We already see how the lack of physical interaction has increased the harshness of discourse in most internet discusions.

[The Zanti Regent]

5. Mrs. Greenspan whores for the Nazis (JUST LIKE HER HUBBY DOES!)

Gore Vidal is right. the so-called pundits are split between conservatives and Nazis!

[cybildisobedience]

7. I'm convinced that the Moore-bashing is really panic

The media whores see their influence slipping away. They feel that the Internet and other outlets for information have been too successful in showing us other perspectives or, God forbid, real truth.
They're panicking -- listen to Limbaugh or Hannity -- they're beside themselves. Look at Tweety -- he's practically ripping his fake blonde hair out by the handfuls -- How DARE the American people develop their own opinion based on the facts, rather than just listen to them?
And worst of all, from their perspective, once the blinders are off, once the veil has been lifted, people are much, much harder to fool again.
For their entire careers, these smug bastards have convinced themselves that only THEY are bright and talented enough to have opinions that count. And that their opinions should be ours.
Now they see that millions of Americans are at least motivated enough to find out for themselves.
Did you hear Tweety last night?
He was talking about ten million Americans seeing F 9-11. "What's going to happen when it's 20 million? Or 30 million?" he asked.

[myopic4141]

10. It is panic.

The movie is having profound effects on both the supporters and the fence sitters alike galvanizing all against Bush. Surveys have seen greater numbers of individuals leaving the film against Bush than when they went in. I saw the movie today and it is very powerful. A very interesting aspect of viewing the movie was that Moore was less direct about many of the assertions associated with the criticism. Sometimes so much so that the viewer had to know the truth of the matter to properly fill in the holes to reach the criticizers criticism. Very very interesting.

[Corgigal]

8. 51% of Americans now consider the war a boo-boo

claims NBC (GE-we make good money off of war) so in this new modern math I would say it's 70 percent or more.