Going Apeshit (James Howard Kunstler)

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James Howard Kunstler -- World News Trust

Oct. 17, 2011 -- It was amusing to see President Obama try to align himself with the OWS movement. The genial Millard Fillmore update asked them not to "demonize those who work on Wall Street." Of course, demonization proceeds from the failure of this president and his appointed agents in authority to subject those who work on Wall Street to the laws that mere mortals are supposed to follow in money matters.

Hence, those who work on Wall Street appear to be something other than mortals. And since their work (on Wall Street) has had a malign influence on the common weal, some might leap to the conclusion that they are malevolent non-mortals, i.e. demons. In this early stage of the convulsion rocking the western world, especially here in the USA, a peaceful ambience rules. That is because a game is being played. We played the game in 1968. It goes like this:

You get people to turn out in the streets. The idea is to promote the right of public assembly as much as to make any particular point. (In fact, banners advocating all sorts of gripes appear.) Eventually, you get a lot of people in the streets. Feelings of happy anarchy sweep the crowd, a feeling that something special is underway, that the usual rules of everyday conduct have been suspended, in a good way. The crowd basks in the sunny glow of its own mass, happy solidarity. Everybody is behaving splendidly -- more to feel good about.

After a while that gets boring, especially for young males with a lot of testosterone surging from loin to brain. They want to do more than bask in the radiance of their own righteous wonderfulness. They want to engage their large muscles, even if in the service of an idea, for instance the idea that they have been swindled.

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1. I completely understand the Rite of Intensification that Kunstler describes

I just hope there is enough clarity of mind to realize that this will not serve the Occupy Movement well. Non-violence is the best way to move forward.

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2. I Totally Agree

Non-violent resistance is the only thing that will work, and it CAN work. Gandhi showed that.

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3. I understand how this can escalate into violence.

But since the corporate state has all the major weapons, the powers that be will win every time violence is used.

But I find it interesting that James Howard Kunstler is putting all of this on Obama. If Obama had held the corporate powers and Wall Street banksters accountable, none of this would have been necessary. We, as a people, are forced to protest because NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE to hold them accountable. If Obama had prosecuted the banksters or even enacted laws to prevent them from continually raping the US economy, We, as a people, would not have to be out in the street right now or in the future. But Obama did nothing and We, as a people, had to do something.

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4. Obama Has A 1% Globalist Vision Of The Future

This is clear from his actions.

p.s. Like just about everyone on DU, I voted for the guy. Yet, I've become even more cynical about things since then, including further disillusionment with our political process.

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6. A 1% Globalist Vision -- what is that?

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9. Earth Inc.

One world government controlled by central bankers.

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10. Yeah, ever since he was a "community organizer"

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5. This part of the article is very apropos in this forum:

President Obama could have changed the outcome if he had actually believed in change. He could have told his attorney general to enforce the securities law. He could have replaced the zombies at the SEC and told the new ones to apply all existing regulations.

Before last year's election, he could have used his legislative majorities to repeal the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and reinstate the Glass-Steagall act. He could have initiated the process of deconstructing the giant banks back into their separate functions, so that banking once again worked as a utility rather than a launching pad for colossal frauds and swindles. Not only did he fail to do any of these things, he didn't even talk about it, or try.

Obama has a lot of nerve claiming to support the Occupy Wall Street movement. He should be one of the objects of its ire.

Seems spot on to me.

-Laelth

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7. President Obama tried to change Wall Street in 2009, but he never had the power

The President lost when he challenged the failing banks in 2009. The bankers would not do what he wished. Dream on

For you to say that Congress would have legislated for the people is wrong for the same reason I mentioned above. The President never had the power.

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13. he doesn't have the WILL either

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15. Whatever that means...eom

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14. u ever hear of the Department of Justice?

Don't feel bad neither has Holder. :grr:

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8. Paragraph four says that unemployment causes street violence

Nothing new about that. That's why they sent young men to work camps in the mountains during the Great Depression. The CCC built some great trails in the National Parks in the 1930s.

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11. now they just send young men to prison...

...where they can work for the state and the industries that hold contracts for prison labor.

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12. At a cost to Ohio taxpayers of $5 billion per year

Or so I recall.