Is Mel Gibson a Freeper?

[Jack_Dawson]

Gibson has a movie coming out "The Passion of Christ" and the lead actor was on Hannity's radio diatribe today. Hannity sure was doing some bootlicking. Hannity also couldn't say enough nice things about Mel. It's a little worrisome.

[Maddy McCall]

1. From everything I have heard, Yes.

[Catch22Dem]

2. I think he EXTREMELY religious

Don't know about other conservative leanings. Either way, I still like Mel Gibson movies. Might not care for this latest one, but I like pretty much all the others.

[oostevo]

23. Umm ... Signs?

That was not much better than the current one. Granted, it was directed by someone else, but still ...

[K-W]

3. I dont think he is a freeper, he might however be a nutty christian

the passion project is a bit suspicious on that count. But regardless, Hannity isnt praising him as a man, he is just praising him because it behooves him to take mels side on the issue of this movie. A jesus glorifying and non-controversial (to christians at least) portrayal of the bible is something that the religious right can rally behind, especially when those evil jews have expressed concerns. If they decide that this project is on thier side of the culture war they will adopt it and fight for it.

[vi5]

4. Well, he's a homophobe definitely...

I think he's on record several times over making homophobic statements as well as having scenes in his movies where the gay characters are killed. I know he made some token overtures to the gay community but I think it was pretty much damage control.

He's a heavy duty catholic in some hardcore very traditional sect.

Whether any of that makes him a freeper or not I don't know.

[Deja Q]

22. That's a pity

Because he's a hottie! :9

But just because he's catholic... I knew a gay guy, big into catholocism, and thought God punished him by making him gay.

I've a coworker, she's catholic, and is as open-minded and tolerant as they come. I like her, as a friend mind you... :-)

[htuttle]

5. It would be more accurate to characterize Gibson as...

...sort of like Pat Buchanan mixed with David Icke.

[DenverDem]

6. He better be careful

calling out the Jews on whacking Jesus.

Israel plays hard ball. (Oops, shouldn't be talking about that on this forum, sorry.)

[fairfaxvadem]

7. don't know about "freeper" but

he is a Scalia-like, pre-Vatican II, "weren't the Middle Ages Great?", any Mass not in Latin is not a real Mass-kind of Catholic. His dad said some very way out there things, think it was in the NYTimes some time ago, but can't be sure which publication (it was mainstream). He does not believe in birth control, etc. Think his dad built a church somewhere in the hills above LA or somewhere in So. Cal. He is very conservative, period.

The release of this film will be interesting to say the least.

[leyton]

21. Uh, that's not really an accurate representation.

"'Weren't the middle ages great?'" Come on. The mass in Latin is a Catholic tradition, and I don't see what's so wrong with it. Conservative, yes, but that's his religion.

[kcwayne]

8. I don't know Mel of course, but Susan Sarandon called him

a scary fascist. I can't find a link to this, I read it several years ago.

[RapidCreek]

9. He's an American Born Australian Redneck

Or in Grover Norquists words "Gibson is a crazed right-winger toeing the Catholic social conservative line"

RC

[0007]

10. The freepers like to claim him as their own -

I heard, and I don't remember where, that Gibson is a Libertarian.

Also his religious convictions are with the Orthodox church, also I heard.

How true? I don't know and don't care.

I like Mel Gibson as an actor, but indeed don't get into the life styles of celebrities. Brave Heart was a fine film.

[oostevo]

24. Libertarian?

Umm ... are you sure you don't mean populist?
Gibson certainly doesn't seem socially liberal.

[Sandpiper]

11. Mel Gibson's Father

Is an unapologetic Holocaust denier. So, one must wonder how far from the tree the apple fell.

[AlFrankenFan]

12. Hard to say...

...cause I know some very religious Democrats. The only thing I know for sure is he is some hard core religious person I tell ya. And, his movie comes out on Ash Wednesday (aka my brother's birthday :P).

[brook]

13. Most assuredly not.

The Freepers got all ga-ga over him after that movie about the American Revolution...and assumed he was one of them. (They do 'project' a lot).

Yes, his father has some extreme ideas - but you'd do well to separate father from son ideologically, I think. I spent an awful lot of time with MG and saw no sign that he is a bigot, Holocast denier,misogynist or religious quack...indeed, what I saw would indicate quite opposite traits. (My mother, an Irish Catholic & life long Democrat hated the Mass in English - and I ain't too fond of it either...but, then, I rarely attend these days).

I don't care if you don't like him or his movies -but it irks me to see drudgian *facts* repeated ad nauseum. It seems a thread like this pops up every few months and I find it a tad *freeperish*. I like to think that we are deeper thinkers who pride ourselves on factual discourse.

[RapidCreek]

16. You might care to read this page.

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2003_07_20_dneiwert_archive.html

I found this section to be particularily interesting...

Finally, there's the interview Gibson gave in Playboy, July 1995 (Vol. 42 ; No. 7 ; Pg. 51). Some excerpts:

PLAYBOY: What does he have to do with the Alliance for Catholic Tradition, which one magazine called "an extreme conservative Catholic splinter group"?

GIBSON: He started it. Some people say it's extreme, but it emphasizes what the institution was and where it's going. Everything he was taught to believe was taken from him in the Sixties with this renewal Vatican Council. The whole institution became unrecognizable to him, so he writes about it.

.........

PLAYBOY: Do you believe in Darwin's theory of evolution or that God created man in his image?

GIBSON: The latter.

PLAYBOY: So you can't accept that we descended from monkeys and apes?

GIBSON: No, I think it's bullshit. If it isn't, why are they still around? How come apes aren't people yet? It's a nice theory, but I can't swallow it. There's a big credibility gap. The carbon dating thing that tells you how long something's been around, how accurate is that, really? I've got one of Darwin's books at home and some of that stuff is pretty damn funny. Some of his stuff is true, like that the giraffe has a long neck so it can reach the leaves. But I just don't think you can swallow the whole piece.

The preceding is a fine example of his rather infantile, sophomoric comprehension skills.....not to mention an indication of a simplistic practiced ignorance that anyone over the age of 7 should be embarrased about

PLAYBOY: We take it that you're not particularly broad-minded when it comes to issues such as celibacy, abortion, birth control --

GIBSON: People always focus on stuff like that. Those aren't issues. Those are unquestionable. You don't even argue those points.

PLAYBOY: You don't?

GIBSON: No.

PLAYBOY: What about allowing women to be priests?

GIBSON: No.

PLAYBOY: Why not?

GIBSON: I'll get kicked around for saying it, but men and women are just different. They're not equal. The same way that you and I are not equal.

PLAYBOY: That's true. You have more money.

GIBSON: You might be more intelligent, or you might have a bigger dick. Whatever it is, nobody's equal. And men and women are not equal. I have tremendous respect for women. I love them. I don't know why they want to step down. Women in my family are the center of things. An good things emanate from them. The guys usually mess up.

PLAYBOY: That's quite a generalization.

GIBSON: Women are just different. Their sensibilities are different.

PLAYBOY: Any examples?

GIBSON: I had a female business partner once. Didn't work.

PLAYBOY: Why not?

GIBSON: She was a cunt.

PLAYBOY: And the feminists dare to put you down!

GIBSON: Feminists don't like me, and I don't like them. I don't get their point. I don't know why feminists have it out for me, but that's their problem, not mine.

.................

PLAYBOY: How do you feel about Bill Clinton?

GIBSON: He's a low-level opportunist. Somebody's telling him what to do.

PLAYBOY: Who?

GIBSON: The guy who's in charge isn't going to be the front man, ever. If I were going to be calling the shots I wouldn't make an appearance. Would you? You'd end up losing your head. It happens all the time. All those monarchs. Ifhe's the leader, he's getting shafted. What's keeping him in there? Why would you stay for that kind of abuse? Except that he has to stay for some reason. He was meant to be the president 30 years ago, if you ask me.

PLAYBOY: He was just 18 then.

GIBSON: Somebody knew then that he would be president now.

PLAYBOY: You really believe that?

GIBSON: I really believe that. He was a Rhodes scholar, right? Just like Bob Hawke. Do you know what a Rhodes scholar is? Cecil Rhodes established the Rhodes scholarship for those young men and women who want to strive for a new world order. Have you heard that before? George Bush? CIA? Really, it's Marxism, but it just doesn't want to call itself that. Karl had the right idea, but he was too forward about saying what it was. Get power but don't admit to it. Do it by stealth. There's a whole trend of Rhodes scholars who will be politicians around the world.

MY ADDITION....SINCE YOU ARE MELS CLOSE FRIEND...PERHAPS YOU SHOULD TAKE THE ITALICISED SECTION INTO ACCOUNT...YOUR FRIEND IT WOULD SEEM IS DISENGENOUS AND HE IS SO FOR A REASON.

PLAYBOY: This certainly sounds like a paranoid sense of world history. You must be quite an assassination buff.

GIBSON: Oh, fuck. A lot of those guys pulled a boner. There's something to do with the Federal Reserve that Lincoln did, Kennedy did and Reagan tried. I can't remember what it was, my dad told me about it. Everyone who did this particular thing that would have fixed the economy got undone. Anyway, I'll end up dead if I keep talking shit.

Mel Gibson is a stupid, crass, neo-fascist freak.His own words make that effusively clear.

If you'd care to make the introduction I'll be happy to tell him that to his face.

RC

[Woodstock]

20. Agree, Gibson is a sexist pig but I didn't realize he was so stupid

I never met a nice guy yet who used the "c" word.

I already knew he was a sexist pig. But I didn't realize how stupid he was until I read that. Thanks.

[RapidCreek]

27. My pleasure

:)

RC

[Postman]

14. strange how the "religious" types are FOR the killing in Iraq...

I know, not all of them are, just the far-right "Christian" wing.

They have more in common with Bin Laden than they would care to admit. They are both religious fundamentalist zealots.

[poopyjr]

15. He's extremely Catholic

I don't know if that means freeper. Many Catholics are against the death penalty for instance.

[RapidCreek]

17. A little something about Mels "Catholisism"

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/5353470.htm

RC

[brainwashed_youth]

26. Devout is a better word

Extreme might be a little much. He's simply a devout roman catholic the same way all of us here are devout democrats. If he is right-wing, who cares. He's a good actor and he appears to be a good person too. And his movies are really good.

[RapidCreek]

28. Obviously you failed to read the article included in the post

above your own.

RC

[leftyandproud]

18. yes...him and arnie..damn them...

I used to like those guys! Mel seemed like a man's man..

Well, at least we still have his partner Danny Glover...He's pretty cool ;)

[alwynsw]

19. According to the releases, he's put up over 800K for Moore's

next project. No freeper would do that. But then, I'm not a freeper and Moore wouldn't get a dime from me.

[fairfaxvadem]

25. well, let's just say Mel didn't help Moore because they agree..

he knows he has a good chance of losing $$$ on the passion, as he put up his own change i believe, and here's a blurb about his ponying up for Moore's film. His production company needs to back a winner, is what this is all about.

http://www.indiewire.com/biz/biz_030331moore.html