Why would Haiti be a base for Cuba invasion?

[wellstone_democrat]

I keep seeing refs to wanting Haiti (the US that is) as a base to launch an invasion of Cuba. What is this? The eighteenth century? Its 90 miles from Florida and we have both an Air Force and fast boats (with big guns) why on earth would Haitian real estate be important for an invasionary force? Seriously, am I missing something here? An invasion by frogman only (still, too long a swim I'm thinking....)

[Dirk39]

Cuba AND Venezuela AND drugs, irresistable!

"The island of Hispaniola is a gateway to the Caribbean basin, strategically located between Cuba to the North West and Venezuela to the South. The militarization of the island, with the establishment of US military bases, is not only intended to put political pressure on Cuba and Venezuela, it is also geared towards the protection of the multibillion dollar narcotics transshipment trade through Haiti, from production sites in Colombia, Peru and Bolivia."
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO402D.html

Hello from Germany,
Dirk

[jean]

1. and why would idiot want to invade Cuba?

To suck up all "brown people" votes, as George HW "Read My Lips" Bush is fond of calling them?

[wellstone_democrat]

2. Not WHY but why would Haiti matter in this age

of subs, jets, and a big old coast guard?

I know why Bush* wants both Cuba and Venezuela but the insistence today that Haiti as a location is key makes little sense after the age of sail and gunpowder. Sure, its easier but 90 miles is nothing for modern military transportation and weapons.

Now, if its meant to warn the Caribbean and SA, that's another whole story that I agree with. I'm just trying to figure out the insistence today by some that Haiti as a location is necessary for invasionary forces.

[Taeger]

3. Don't forget ....

We actually HAVE a naval base IN CUBA. Guantanamo Bay!!!!!!!!

[TroubleMan]

4. Why invade Cuba

1. These people hold long grudges and they see Cuba as the one that got away. They blame it on JFK. Having Castro in Cuba to them is like having a neighbor bringing a bunch of dogs to poop on their front porch everyday.

2. I can see many "business" reasons they would have. A bunch of cheap labor, and they could say that they're "helping" the Cubans by providing jobs. They won't say that they're sweatshop-like jobs with no benefits. You know, the typical globalization reasons.

3. They love sending "messages" to the rest of the world leaders they don't like. They would also like to set a precedent that they can invade anybody they like, at any time, for any reason they choose (even if the reason changes after the invasion). They want us to be the world-badasses - kicking ass and taking names, and you'd better kow-tow to our business and political interests or you'll end up like Allende, Hussein, Noriega, Aristide, ect.

[Mika]

6. Poop on this

"Having Castro in Cuba to them is like having a neighbor bringing a bunch of dogs to poop on their front porch everyday."

LOL (not)

Having American hegemony running Cuba was like dogs pooping in your house. That's why the Cuban people en masse kicked the Americans out in 1959.

The labor unions rule in Cuba now.

Dream on if you think that Americans and their Cuban "exile" minions in Miami will have any cake walk back into Cuba.

[TroubleMan]

9. Please read before you post

I wasn't talking about the way the Cubans feel - I was talking about how the people like Bush & Crew feel.


It's that way to the conservatives of the country not to the Cubans. The conservatives of this country hate Castro. I wasn't talking about Cubans.

[Mika]

11. Huh?

No need to get the feathers ruffled.

I dig it (and did).

Just adding my 2 cents.

:hi:

[TroubleMan]

13. Yeah, but you made it seem

like I was saying that's how the Cubans feel and I was insulting them.

When you tell me to poop on this, well...it seems like you strongly disagreed with me.

I'm not insulted, I just wanted to clarify my point, because I thought you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

[name not needed]

5. were not invading cuba

we wouldnt want russia pissing about it

[TroubleMan]

7. probably not

but they would sure love to. Making military moves into the Caribbean, even if it's just a bluff, might make Putin concede on something else they want. The threat of it certainly strengthens their position.

Also, does Putin still care about Cuba? I don't know either way.

[name not needed]

14. well

dumbass* hasnt fucked out of our treaty with cuba after the missile crisis. so id give him another week before he kills more women and children.

[AZCat]

8. Why? Practice...

Remember- PNAC has a list of countries that they want to take down.

After the fiasco in Iraq, they realized that more practice was required before they had their 'game plan' down. The Caribbean is just FULL of little countries to conquer- by the time we clean them all out Rumsfeld et al. will be ready for bigger fish, and since there won't be elections in November (the Supreme Court will abdicate all electoral authority to Bush*) coupled with the draft, we'll have an army capable of finishing the list.

:tinfoilhat:

[peacetalksforall]

10. Why Haiti to launch the assault on Cuba - instead of Florida?

You're not subject to U.S. law, just like holding humans in chicken cages in Gitmo is not subject to U.S. law - at least so far - and holding citizens of a variety of nations as war criminals is not sugject to U.S. law.

Whose going to file a lawsuit?

This is the way new imperialists do it.

Even though rhere is only one Solicitor General and a stacked Supreme Court, they don't want it in the U.S. courts and they don't want dissent. They don't want you and me caring.

[TroubleMan]

15. Out of Sight - Out of Mind

Good point. Most people don't belive it until they see it on network news. They just call it conspiracy theories.

[wellstone_democrat]

16. ding ding ding! we have a winner!

Thanks, I didn't think of that---plus, we can completely control information in and out which we can't do on the mainland and being an extremely poor country, they can't get the word out effectively either.

Very good points, I think that finally makes sense as far as location.

[CaptainClark23]

12. I had the same question myself, earlier

So I've been trying to think of reasons, how're these:

Someplace to bring the caskets to, out of the cameras view

Operational Security - Anyone w/ a vidcam and a pleasure craft could watch the invasion fleets departure. Or monitor departures from Air Force Bases..granted, there wouldn't be a whole hell of alot of time between departure and target, but every little bit counts.

BFEE could control the press access in Haiti a hell of alot better than in S. Florida.



I'm not convinced by these ideas myself, but its the best I could come up with.