Here We Go..."I Was A Lifelong Democrat..." Misinformation

[KharmaTrain]

Is it me or have others noticed more and more callers to shows on C-SPAN and other forums (hate radio excluded) in support of this regime claiming "I have been a Democrat for __ years" or "I've been a lifelong Democrat"...blah, blah..."I love Bunnypants"...and so on.

I notice most of these callers have southern accents and their use of the lexicon is severly restricted. Also, if given the chance to run on, the Clenis talking points..."honor & dignity", "it was HIS recession", "HE made 9/11 happen" and so on. It's almost robotic and getting easy to spot and predict.

Personally, I don't think this tactic will work as polls are showing our ranks are very solid and growing. Seems like this is more attempts by the GOOP at keeping their own at home...yanking at the shrinking number of Democrats (mostly Southern) who jumped over to the GOOP in 2000 and their pollsters are showing aren't around this time.

Anyone else seeing this? Some of the more hillarious observations you have would be appreciated this morning.

CHeers!

[AZCat]

1. Probably just another form of astroturfing

There might be a RW site somewhere with a script written up that is being used.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

2. Two can play this game... right? (nt)

[ithacan]

3. two can play at that game, no?

surely there must be lots of "life-long republicans" who are disgusted with Bush and who would be calling in to CSPAN.... </hint>

[PDittie]

4. More evidence we should write off the South

including Florida.

Great avatar, by the way.

[1monster]

11. I'm really sick of people suggesting that we "write off the south,

including Florida."

For your information, the breakdown of Republicans and Democrats (registered voters) in Florida is close to even, with a slight lead for the Democrats.

Al Gore won Florida in 2000 (even without all those people who had their ballots invalidated or who were not allowed to vote -- it was the Supreme Court who decided the contrary outcome) and there were a lot of "fishy" odors during the 2002 election in the vote processing...

Go ahead and "write off the south, including Florida." It will be a loss not only to the Democrats, but also to the Country. We will definitely have four more (possible twevle more) years of BushCO and their evil cohorts in crime.

Attitudes like that allienate your allies and is worthy of Bush. He likes to write off his allies too.

[Atlant]

17. This explains your (reelected-in-2002) Republican Governor how? (NT)

[1monster]

26. Polls up until the day before the election of likely voters had

Bush and McBride running at 48% and 52% Bush's favor. The election results were something like 35% for McBride.

There were reports of the touch screen voter complaining that their vote for McBride would not go through or showed as a vote for Bush. There were lots of problems that were under reported.

[Atlant]

29. And how were these all solved for 2004? (NT)

[damnyankee2601]

21. The south has written themselves off...

...with endless votes for divisive, hateful, racist Repuglikan theocrats. Don't like it? GET OUT AND VOTE.

[1monster]

25. I've voted in EVERY elelction, primaries and off year elections too...

since 1984.

You might want to examine your own post for the qualities you invest in the South...

[PDittie]

22. Hey, it's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

<<I keep saying all we need to do is hold our own from 2000...and I see that as a strong possibility now...and pick up Ohio, Missouri & West Virignia (2 out of 3 will do) and the South is moot.>>

That's my point. Missouri, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia...

I live in Houston, Texas. Have all my life. No one sees this closer than me.

Let's focus on what we can capture.

[KharmaTrain]

14. Thank You...Who Needs The South???

I don't get the fascination with the "NASCAR Dads"...and that unless the Democrats win states in the South we're some kind of minority party.

Early this morning, I heard Tweety go with that spin that you can fly from coast-to-coast and not fly over a single "Blue" county. I might add, Mr. Matthews, these areas probably don't have flush toilets, either. I'm so sick of the denial that a large majority (and 500,000 plus is sufficient for me) voted for Gore...and those were the voted that were counted.

I keep saying all we need to do is hold our own from 2000...and I see that as a strong possibility now...and pick up Ohio, Missouri & West Virignia (2 out of 3 will do) and the South is moot.

There looks like a lot of instability in the GOOP ranks starting to show and that the "I was a Democrat" label (never do they say Democratic Party) is a codeword that is supposed to scare the sheeple back into the flock.

When I hear these yokels, I laugh. I say I've been a proud Democrat all my life...come from three generations of proud Democrats...the father of soon-to-be future Democrats (my daughter votes in her first Democratic primary next week) and I've never been prouder of my party than I am today.

[Bozita]

5. Lying while pursuing noble goals ain't lying ...

... and we all know whose goals are most noble.

[Jackpine Radical]

8. I disagree most profoundly:

"Lying while pursuing noble goals ain't lying ..."

In life, and in politics, there are no ends. There are only means. Once you sacrifice your principles on your methods, you have given up any possibility of attaining what you claimed were your ends.

[Bozita]

12. I had my fingers crossed while saying that ...

... so it doesn't count.

[Jackpine Radical]

30. Oh--

OK.

[Loki]

6. They always give themselves away

when at some point during their programmed performance, they utter the words "Democrat Party". No one who has ever been a Democrat calls it the Democrat Party - only stupid programmed Republicans do that. They slip up every time.

[BigMcLargehuge]

7. YES I have noticed

the vast majority of callers this week have been of the slack-jawed Bush supporter variety. The one that sticks out for me today is the woman from Vermont who "don't know anyting about..." the town of Killington Vt voting to secede from VT and join NH, but she had plenty of ignorant opinions of gay marriage.

:eyes:

Washington Journal can be a great show, but lately, sheesh.

[niceypoo]

9. Its standard GOP

Almost every republican Ive met in the last 6 years says "I used to be a democrat" as if it proves something

[ProfessorGAC]

23. You Should Ask Them If They've Had A Head Injury

That would explain the conversion. Either that or:
- they won a lotto;
- just decided to get more selfish as they aged, or;
- have gotten very fearful as they aged.
The Professor

[Spider Jerusalem]

10. Actually, in all fairness, these people probably WERE lifelong Democrats.

You state they have "mostly Southern accents"; you need to remember that the Democratic Party in the South was a very different thing back in the days before Jimmy Carter and then Bill Clinton. Southern Democrats were mostly segregationist social conservatives , many of whom voted Democratic solely out of historical pique at the Republican Party because of the outcome of the Civil War.

The fact that they are now committed Republicans really says more about the Republicans than the Democrats, I'd say.

[KharmaTrain]

24. Very Valid Point

When there was the poll of who you would have voted for in 1948, I couldn't help but notice how fractured the Democratic party was at that point and the diverse groups that it represented...from Strom Thurmond to Eleanor Roosevelt.

Yes, the South was a different place and the Democrats of that time represented the two largest groups in that part of the country...segregationists (pardon...States Rights) and Unions. Both were destroyed in the 60's and 70's...thus I can see your point in those older callers who surely were what we now call "Old Democrats".

It also shows how our party has evolved...I would hope that we can organize many of the New Democrats throughout the South and the West on the lies and deceptions of the Repugnican party.

We're a country in transition and I am sure the South will continue the positive growth that has been steady since the 60's. I see the GOOP hold on this area as holding on to a dinosaur...doomed to be swept aside by the social changes of the future.

[damnyankee2601]

13. Three Observations

1. Notice that the hosts of these shows are either too dumb to spot this, or just paid shills themselves. We should call in and call them out on it.

2. This seems to dovetail nicely with all the rabid Bushies around Houston who have suddenly become "moderates" in the last few months. This is their rhetorical tactic to avoid defending Shrub when I start ripping on him.

3. Another similar phenomenon is the way the righites all seem to "personally" know "someone" who worked in the Clinton White House and can confirm that Hillary is a Lesbian, but none of them seem to know ANYBODY in the current white house.

[heidiho]

15. They Shouldn't Bother to Identify Themselves as GOP

Their ignorance and stupidity says it for them. I can tell in the first five seconds that they belong to the Great Obnoxious Pariahs.

[TXvote]

16. Here in Texas

I have had several older, religous, black, traditionally staunch Democrats make a point of coming to the fence and telling me they would be forced to vote republican this year if the Dems insisted on supporting gay marriage. It seems they are worried that god will bring his wrath down on America if we consent to recognizing gay marriages ala Soddum and Gemmorrah. This is being preached EVERY SUNDAY AND WEDNESDAY night in southern churches.

We talk about the Constitution and "seperation of bedroom and state" but all they hear is thunder in the distance of wrath from above. If the Dems lose this constituancy in the South, it could be Bush for four more years.

[damnyankee2601]

18. Texas is irrelevant.

The right-wing oligarchy is in the process of turning Texas into another Mississippi. There is no way the enforced ignarance of this electorate will go to Kerry. Just write off Texas and spend the money elsewhere. They will only see the light after the rest of the country leaves them behind to move forward.

[Atlant]

19. Won't make any difference in the South...

...cause the Democrats aren't going to win a single "Southern"
state in 2004, although they may win a few near-South states.

I posted the numbers in another thread a few days ago, but as
I recall, the Democrats lost Texas by about 29% in 2000, so a
few more votes going to the Republicans won't change things much.

Atlant

[ProfessorGAC]

20. Yes. Somewhere Here On The Archives. . .

. . .there should be a thread (or maybe not because this was a while ago), where one of the DU'ers got hold of a RNC activist memo. This little catch-phrase was on the "you should say this" list.

So, whenever i hear this on C-SPAN, i know there is a liar on the phone.
The Professor

[Skittles]

27. AH THANK BOOSH IS DEWIN' A GOOD JAHB

that is what I am sick of hearing.

[Kamika]

28. oh that's old

I've seen that one since Clinton held office..

I agree with what many here said.. they slip sooner or later by saying something that no democrat would ever have said.

[BiggJawn]

31. *I* am a life-long Democrat!

And I will be until I gasp my last. and I think Bush has stunk-up this country something horribly.