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Sun Aug-03-03 01:53 PM
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| The Corporate Media has been promoting Dean a lot lately |
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Any ideas why AOLTimeWarner, GE, and Newscorp have been heavily promoting Dean, putting his face on magazines, giving him air time, and promoting him as a front runner? Just as Bush is getting hammered with scandals, the corporate media is promoting Dean as a "moderate to liberal" alternative to Bush.
It seems to me that corporate America would be just as happy with Dean as they are with Bush. Wonder why?
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Sun Aug-03-03 01:56 PM
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Because he's newsworthy? Most of these articles continue negative Dean memes anyway...
At first, he was a novelty. But, now he is making them cover him through his actions.
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Sun Aug-03-03 01:58 PM
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| 3. Howard Dean will be on Larry King Monday 9PM CNN |
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Sun Aug-03-03 01:58 PM
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| 2. He's unique and abhors Bush |
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He's raising a lot of money in a new and innovative way. He's also one of Bush's most vociferous critics.
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Sun Aug-03-03 02:02 PM
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They love JR but they promote Dean something is ODD about this situation. Shouldn't we back a candidate that they are not promoting?
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Sun Aug-03-03 02:07 PM
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| 8. Back in 00 the loved McCain - over Bush |
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I wish more repubs had taken the bait. A) we wouldn't have had th same election (teh florida debacle) and B) If we were stuck with McCain in some respects it wouldn't have been as bad as it is now. (Don't get me wrong - I enjoyed watching McCain scare these guys in the primary - but I would never have supported him for president).
I think some of the media is cliquish (the follow each other) and very, very shallow. But I don't think their temporary obsessions are a harbinger of good, or a portend of bad.
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Sun Aug-03-03 02:36 PM
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| 11. Hell, I even liked McCain |
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I wouldn't have voted for him but he would have been better then the Piece Of Shit that is occupying our White House right now.
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Sun Aug-03-03 11:18 PM
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Do you mean that we shouldn't support anyone that gets much media coverage? Because I think Dean's media coverage began with his record breaking internet support and fundraising totes.
So maybe the reason the media has picked up on him is because of his growing popularity.
If that's true, and then enough of us all decided to support someone else who couldn't get any coverage, they would become newsmakers, too.
Would we have to change candidates again until we found someone who just can't get enough support to get any media attention?
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Sun Aug-03-03 02:05 PM
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| 5. Reporting and promoting are 2 different deals |
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I did see Wolf Goading old Loserman a bit of Dean but Holy Joe is in Deanial!! RFLMAO
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Sun Aug-03-03 02:07 PM
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The person who wants to get rid of GM food and the WTO (kucinich) is barely mentioned in the CORPORATE media.
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Sun Aug-03-03 11:05 PM
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| 15. Exactly, corporate media is afraid of Kucinich, and loves Dean |
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So far, Dean hasn't taken a public stance against *any* corporate position. Even corporations like GE and Boeing and Capcities are "for" rights - so far it's all talk, and no action.
Kucinich has been very clear on the issues, and Dean and Kerry have done their best to hush everything up.
Even Gephardt supports a minimum wage.
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Sun Aug-03-03 02:08 PM
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| 9. Why didn't they report the news that both Kucinich |
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and Kerry said that the US should cease its occupation of Iraq and turn the country over to the UN and NATO with the support of US forces?
I guess that's not worth reporting, but, poll ratings from the conservative Franklin Pierce college and the conservative rag Boston Herald MAKE news.
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Mon Aug-04-03 02:19 AM
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| 31. Maybe because Dean had that position BEFORE the war... |
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Sun Aug-03-03 11:24 PM
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"he's in Dean-ial"
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Sun Aug-03-03 02:06 PM
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When the Republicans want someone to run they run a bunch of adds in favor of the adversary. The point being that Dean is not a real adversary, but with the media they can trick the people and more important the one that will most likely loose in this case Dean to make him think he's more powerful then he is.
They the Republican media machine did the same thing with Gore. Gore had the courage and insight to see thru the lies and did not swallow the bait. Remember Murdoch even put Gore on Saturday Night live, because they knew Gore would never be able to win. They were hoping they would have to face Gore in 2004.
The real person the Republicans are not sleeping over is General Wesley Clark.
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Sun Aug-03-03 11:21 PM
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| 17. Murdoch put Gore on SNL? |
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Gore wanted to do the show.
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Mon Aug-04-03 01:45 AM
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| 26. Something is fishy there |
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Murdoch owns FOX. SNL is on NBC - Jack Welch (I think).
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Sun Aug-03-03 02:19 PM
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| 10. It gives them cover when they bash him after he is nominated. |
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The promotion of a dem in the primary is worthless and the media know it. But they can call it "balance". See how they treat him if he is the Dem candidate.
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Mon Aug-04-03 01:36 AM
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| 25. yes, this is temporary |
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Since this is still pretty far from the elections and relatively few paying attention, they can indulge themselves in some old-fashioned reasonably-honest journalism.
Whichever Democrat wins the nomination, however, will get slimed by the media when the election is near.
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Sun Aug-03-03 02:44 PM
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Get the guy you're most scared of, give him a lot of publicity, then watch as the Dems attack him because they can't figure out plan 9.
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Sun Aug-03-03 03:23 PM
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| 13. I would imagine the corporate hierarchy finds Dean perfectly acceptable |
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From what I've heard and read, Dean has been very accomodating to the corporations, sometimes to the detriment of the people and the land.
Aside from that, he's doing very well right now. It's news.
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Sun Aug-03-03 09:43 PM
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The fact is that Republicans LOVE Howard Dean.
THey don't want to face John Kerry or Wesley Clark.
Some of you are blind.
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Mon Aug-04-03 01:07 AM
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| 23. I almost ALWAYS read comments like these lately, |
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They say very little (if anything) of substance and come from people with LOW post counts.
Hmmmmm.
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Mon Aug-04-03 02:16 AM
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Bingo! You hit the nail on the head!
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Sun Aug-03-03 11:23 PM
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| 18. Mr or Ms GS, good to read your always insightful posts on Kerry and Dean |
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The Democrat's two Yale Skull & Something candidates always seem to get the bulk of media attention. I really appreciate your posts on the matter :)
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Sun Aug-03-03 11:38 PM
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| 20. They have chosen their loser for '04. |
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They have decided that their tax cut water boy Scrubya can win if Election '04 is limited to a single issue: national security. Dean poses no threat to them on national security issues and so will do just fine as the token opposition.
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Sun Aug-03-03 11:46 PM
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| 21. No way of knowing unless you are into Conspiracy Theory |
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There are 2 routes to this media hype for Dean.
Yes it is very possible that corporate cronies are promoting Dean because they think he is weak and will lose against Bush if he gets the nom. But if that were so why not promote Liberman or Mosley-Braun.
Another reason that contradicts the above reason is that corporate thugs wouldn't mind if Dean wins. But why not just keep Bush in office and ignore Dean. Why not hype Liberman?
The logical reason imo is because Dean is showing signs of surging to be the final Dem canidate. If anyone knows why the primary race is so vital in New Hampshire and Iowa can see this. Once a person begins to win the early state the media goes ga-ga for that "front runner" for ratings because they are clearly getting more attention and look like the safe bet. In 00' Bradley would of lost so bad against Bush, but the media still ignored the pants off him because he polled so low.
$$$ and viewers sometimes is favored above the head henchmen's political yearnings.
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Mon Aug-04-03 12:06 AM
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| 22. So they don't look flat footed... |
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when he is elected in 2004.
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Mon Aug-04-03 01:32 AM
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| 24. Oh look, another Dean-bashing thread |
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From one of the usual perps.
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Mon Aug-04-03 01:47 AM
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Dean seems different, and a kind of different that people find interesting. That brings ratings.
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Mon Aug-04-03 01:50 AM
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| 28. Maybe they want Bush out too... |
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and figure Dean is the best one to replace him, from their point of view.
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Mon Aug-04-03 01:59 AM
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| 29. this is the same corporate media.... |
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...that is trying to stir up "excitement" by including Al Gore and Hillary Clinton in every poll that's taken regarding the Democratic primaries, even though BOTH of them have insisted they will not be running.
So what's your point?
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Mon Aug-04-03 02:27 AM
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| 32. Dean is getting the press because of what he is doing... |
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He is going after Bush, getting amazing support, and he's an underdog.
The media loves this kind of stuff.
The media are whores... they go for what makes them the most money.
Dean's story is profitable. If for no other reason that the simple economic fact that those massive numbers of people willing to send money to Dean are probably likely to spend money on that issue of Time or Newsweek if they have stuff on Dean.
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