Kucinich on C-Span NOW n/t

[Tinoire]

[XanaDUer]

1. crap!

i love hearing Dennis speak...anyway to get the gist of what he's saying?

No tv available now. :(

[cherryperry]

6. now he's talking about labor issues that

are usually taboo in the recent Demo party; re energy policy - great on nuke power; what a guy! He's taking questions now; the host is Tom Harkin. How about Kucinich/Harkin...in my dreams! Maybe they'll repeat it for you and others - be sure to look at C-Span schedule on internet, ok?

[XanaDUer]

19. Thanks, cherry

I will (funny, I just had cherry pie with ice cream)...:)

[cherryperry]

2. Thank you, Tinoire, it's on now here! He is just great! n/t

[JohnKleeb]

3. cool but I wanna be here if TV was in here I would but nope

[juajen]

4. I'm watching

WOW, he looks great. Love the new haircut. His message has always been awesome. Those who can, tune in. It's mostly over now, Q & A time, but it's still great!

[XanaDUer]

7. some highlights?

He's always pretty great.

[JohnKleeb]

9. Thanks glad you can see this

Most of us know that most of the other candiates are good people, I like Kerry 2nd, if Gore doesnt run, I hardly have ever seen a Kerry supporter bash DK too which I like, now most Dean supporters are good people I will admit, but some have bashed DK very little but some and I realize some Kucinich supporters are defensive and have some things about Dean they dont like. I think Kerry could put us in a 135, Kucinich in a 180, and Dean just in a 90 really because Kerry is good on most social and economic issues.

[XanaDUer]

15. Yeah, John

I feel that Dennis K. is the most in line with my thoughts and feelings. Sadly, I fear too many would see him as a, gasp! socialist.

He has always spoken to me-and as for fire in the belly, he has that, too!

So far, from all I have read and seen, Kerry is my frontrunner.

[cherryperry]

32. so, is your Kerry icon because

you feel he is the frontrunner? I believe he is the frontrunner as well, but if I had a real fave among those running, I would use that as my icon! Come on, chick, change your icon to Kucinich, it's ok in here. . . and, if I had the same courage I'm advising you to have, I'd use a Star of David rather than the GGBridge, so I'm well aware of all that goes into these decisions! Easier to give than take one's own advice, huh? :loveya:

[Tinoire]

5. Unemployment

Govt has a moral obligation to make sure people who lost thier jobs through no fault of the own can survive

[XanaDUer]

8. Good!

we need to keep hammering on the economy, job loss, workers' rights.

[Tinoire]

10. unity of people all over the world

this cause of nationhood created by our constitution is glorious cause

but the problem is we lost sense of our capacity to keep perfecting this union- the unity of people all over the world

my vision is holistic, to look at the world as 1 for we are inter-connected...

Come from the heart, from a place of knowing how we're all connected and all our decisions, Pentagon spending, energy affect the world so we must believe we have the capacity to change the world.

This nation is about the highest principles- equality and justice

Where can we take this nation to help it grow and REJOIN THE WORLD in a new cause of nationhood


Yes!

[cthrumatrix]

11. could you imagine shrub receiving questions and talking ad lib ...

It would be a disaster

[XanaDUer]

12. Um...

No. I have seen him (as we all have) up in front of a prepped audience. He cannot even get a coherent thought through that time.

[searchingforlight]

49. The room would be silent!!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

13. health care...advocates single payer system

:bounce:

[JohnKleeb]

14. good for him

It can work and the democratic party that older people grew up on pushed for it.

[XanaDUer]

17. healthcare is my number one issue

and we have to get it right this time.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

18. Harkin just asked , can you think of any country....

trying to copy our healthcare system"???? <laughter>

[JohnKleeb]

21. Harkin I like him really a lot

He would be a good candiate imo. I also can identify with him in simliar ways that I can DK, he also has ancestry in the balkans, I think hes part Irish too, and he has coal miner blood, and above all he is a populist.

[XanaDUer]

23. That reminds me of Gore Vidal

from some months ago, I think in front of the ethical culture society in NYC...

about immigrants flocking to America for "our generous minimum wage and universal healthcare!"

[Tinoire]

16. Health Care

Insuring access to health care for all americans? How?

and how do you plan to ensure the people who work in the health field are heard in the DK admin?

says he worked in a hospital working with hospital officials and their problems... has already worked on this in Cleveland with these people


Universal Health Care

Market-oriented approach has deprived many people of health-care. They work and either can't afford health-care or are wiped it if something happens to someone in the familiy becuase of the tremendous bills

Single payer system to eliminate many of the administrative costs.
23% admin costs for Medicare, wasted, down the tubes. What a waste that could be used to provide the care instead.

No million dollar salaries stock options because a healther nation and more productive work-force is what we need- people with more security so we can have a healthier and more secure people and nation.

We have the resources in this country. We're already paying for it so why aren't we getting it?

Need a candidate free of corporate ties to make this happen


High cost of health care one reason our manufacturing industries are in trouble-

[Kathy in Cambridge]

20. Highlight: Lady in Audience calls Bush an SOB

She rocked! Said why are we wasting our time on these mundanities when we have a cowboy who wants to blow up the world in our name!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

22. whoa this lady just slammed chimpo BIGTIME...

they want the issue of the iraq war and bush*s false eviedence


"GET OUR TROOPS OUTTA THERE"!!!...KUCINICH

[ElsewheresDaughter]

25. WHEN CONGRESS RETURNS IN SEPT. I WILL BE INTRODUCING LEGISTRATION

TO REAL THE PATRIOT ACT"...WOOOHOOO

opps sorry bout the caps

[Tinoire]

24. BUSH!

in answer to question of a woman asking why Dems haven't fought, denounced Bush and says DK can never win because Dem Party hasn't spoken out against Bush (she is pissed at Bush! - everyone clapping when she called Bush an SOB)


DK - There's a lot of anger in the US, I understand that

I led the effort in House of Reps to challenge the administrations march to war LONG before anyone else said a word

and I continue on a daily basis on why we're there and the negative effect this is having on our nation, families and the young peoplke who served. 4 died yesterday
Unacceptable

Troops out of there. It's time!


Patriot Act

I was one of the first who stepped forward and argued strongly and when Congress returns I am introducing LEGISLATION TO REPEAL THE PATRIOT ACT

[Tinoire]

27. Re Anger

Change must come from our heart. Not from anger. You can't sustain hope for a new America out of anger. There is grief below that anger and what I hope is that we can elevate the cause of nationhood to get in touch with our destinay as a nation again.

Freedom. Couraged. Land of Free / Home of Brave. We have to be strong and courageous to bring our country back but that comes from the heart.

I rarely mention the name of the incumbent because the cause of this country is bigger than that person (*).

[Tinoire]

29. Agribusiness / Industrial Agriculture

Enforce controls preventing uneccessary Cruelty to the animals. Water pollution because of pollutants leaking into the bed-rock - public health issue.


Local communities must have control ofcer zoning issues through funding mechanisms and be able to force compliance with clean air and water act so these businesses don't damage the environment. This is an environmental and pulbic health issue and how we treat animals raised for the market

and also a matter of supporting small farmers.

[JackieO]

26. Oh yeah! This is real good!

Thanks for the heads up!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

28. the sincerity in his eyes and demeanor screams GOOD SPIRIT

INTELLIGENCE, HONESTY AND CARING....THE REAL DEAL

KUCINICH HAS WELLSTONES SPIRIT ALL OVER HIM...AND HARKIN KNOWS IT...HARKIN WAS ONES OF WELLSTONES BEST FRIENDS!

[cherryperry]

36. oh, sob, I want Wellstone back: Wellstone/Kucinich!!!!! n/t

[Mel]

42. me too

I so miss Wellstone!

[JohnKleeb]

45. I would love that

and you know what, we would see the Dean percentages here, slip, you know why, because Wellstone is loved here by all, they would know he had experience. Wellstone/Kucinich in our beautiful and peaceful dreams but let us at least achieve the dream of putting one of them on there. DK is Wellstone's legacy of progressivism across the board.

[Tinoire]

30. Minimum Wage vs Living Wage

Living Wage must be attached to all govt contracts.

Look in DC. This administration eliminating payment for overytime for people who can hardly pay their bills.

People being forced to work for less and less pay.

Wage level up to have a Living Wage.
-----

The reason I believe I'll be the next Pres is because I offer the most fundamental contrast with Bush administration on everything.

[Tinoire]

31. Disabilities

Harkin
As Pres what is your vision of what role people with disabilities will play in your admin and what you would do to bring the Supreme Court in line...

DK
How we look at our brothers and sisters who are differently abled is a question about our humanity about who we are as a people.

Need to make sure they have the resources to equip schools etc for the people with those special needs and make sure we hear the voices of those who are differently abled and NOT through tokenism.

Everyone os us has an obligation to each other to help people achieve their highest capabalities. This helps us expand who we are as a nation. Need higher standards to make this happen so that we show that however differently abled you are, everyone has something to contribute and we must ensure everyone has the chance to make this contribution.

[Tinoire]

33. Can you bring 3rd parties back

YES very important to my campaign.

Set a high tone and relate to all who left Democratic Party and why.

My issues are attractive to Greens, Natural Law Party, Reform Party, Libertarians. This is the moment we get to put the BIG TENT UP AGAIN AS DEMOCRATS SO WE CAN RECLAIM OUR NATION

((he listed which issues and why but sorry I can't type that fast!))

[JohnKleeb]

35. thats great

Its odd, those who doubt him say he wont get the indepedents, well hes appealing to them, unlike the others.

[Tinoire]

37. Peace, War, Violence

Q about this


Department of peace to make non-violence an organizing principle in our society. Violence is a problem in US

Domestic, spousal, child, racial, against gays, schools but have never taken a structure approach to deal with it, hence the Dept of Peace to deal w/ these things

Dream of ML King to make non-violence an organizing peinciple


At international level also. work with other nations so that someday we can create a world where war itself can become archaic so that we have a society with the ability to survive

[JohnKleeb]

40. MLK IMO would be endorsing him

You think that some of the leading black cancus members will do the same? They all are great men and women.

[Tinoire]

43. Taxes...

Harkin says he worked on creating US Institute of Peace which we still have. We have Marines, Army, etc academies but what we need now is a Peace Academy .

Question re preferential treatement for people of upper $ brackets who have created mergers, bought out small farms etc


DK shift from rich to poor with poor paying taxes corporations no longer pay but move their business off-shore, influence our politics, and don't pay taxes... and all benefits going to people in higher brackets.

This is no way to save a democracy!

Those who make the most need to pay their fair share and quit transferring their tax burden to the middle class.

And spending of tax dollars needs to stop being wasteful. Money being wasted in Pentagon needs to go to socially productive programs

[Tinoire]

46. Education

from Pre-kindergarden all the way up...

need to ensure our young people have an educational experience that is creative. Ours is too test-oriented and quantatively-based stifling children's creativity. Need to work with educators to create an educational method to tap our young people's capacity for growth.

MUST focus on education! Everyone should have the chance for a higher education.

Education is one of the areas where we must set our standards the highest by returning to a quality-based educational system.

[JohnKleeb]

47. why isnt he being upped in the polls for this

This is a great idea and you know what, I would rather have my tax dollars spent on this then a couple of new weapons systems.

[JohnKleeb]

34. Do you think Kucinich would think about making Harkin

his running mate or something, Ive always liked Harkin.

[Mel]

38. Department of Peace!!

I love it! Harkin telling DK he's in good company George Washington left a partial of his land for the arangement of a 'Peace Plan'

Peace is not a radical idea!

[cherryperry]

39. Kucinich/Harkin, yes (w/o Wellstone, yes) n/t

[JohnKleeb]

41. of course

If Paul were living
Wellstone/Kucinich or Harkin/Kucinich both teams would be good. All three of those guys are what we need, populists, the midwestern populist really hasnt been in the white house ever, I would consider Truman one though, I would also say the same for Henry Wallace.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

51. oh yeah...it works for me!!!! KUCINICH/HARKIN IN 04

[cosmicdot]

65. Harkin gave a barn-burner of a speech at the Wellstone event

... the memorial, which caused the Repukes to go ballistic ... the speech was a good ol'time Democratic call to arms ... he kicked it old skool ... Hubert Humphrey style ...

[IndianaGreen]

44. Thanks

I just changed the channel!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

48. i wish NY had a Democrat likeTom Harkin to hold town hall meetings

[Tinoire]

50. Says thank you, good-bye & re Iowa Caucus

Iowa Caucuses...

Iowa can set a high tone for this country and send out of the caucauses a candidate who will go for deep and fundamental change..

level of leadership that says it's time for health cared, education for all working with the rest of the world on peace
that was present at the founding of this nation- that is our heritage and we are at a moment of evolution where we must tap those capacities and become the nation of our dreams, one we would be porud to turn over to our kids. Need Transformational change! Willingness to challenge the status quo!

Where I see America in the future? An undreamed of future where we're proud to be Americans and proud of our flag, proud in the cause of peace, social justice, economic jsutice, peace.

Give back a sense of Joy optimism and how great we are as a people!

[Tinoire]

52. Will be on again at 9:30 PST tonight !!!!

09:30 pm

1:29 (est.) Forum
Iowa Presidential Candidate Forum
Democratic Party, Iowa
Tom Harkin , D-IA
Dennis Kucinich , D-OH

[Mel]

55. thanks!

You did a great job!

[JohnKleeb]

67. oh nevermind I missed it sigh

[JackieO]

53. Not to be shallow, but

Dennis looks GREAT!

(Whoa, he's closing with Led Zeppelin - "When the Levee Breaks")

[ElsewheresDaughter]

54. Tiniore thank you for the play by play!!! kindred spirit

:toast:

[Tinoire]

57. No prob but I would recommend everyone find the transcript !

I am no stenographer and missed SO much. I wonder what we missed bforehand too because that was just the tail end of the Q & A.

Sigh... I think it will be on again tonight

[KC]

64. If anyone

finds the link please post it !!

KC

[Darranar]

56. Listened to quite a bit of it...

I missed a few parts, because I had to do a few things, but what I heard was simply amazing!

[Tinoire]

60. I'm glad you got to hear it!! Next time warn us! lol :) n/t

[revcarol]

58. Watch the re-broadcast at 9:30 ET

if you missed it.

What a glorious way to spend time, watching real leadership build community, not divide us!!

P. S. on edit:VERY STRONG ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. No grandfathering in coal-power plants; wind, some kind of grass (NO, not that kind!!)solar, research and develop even more technologies for power. 20% of national energy needs sustainable by 2010!!Connected to foreign policies.

[Terwilliger]

62. kick on that! 9:30P EDT replay!

[JohnKleeb]

66. I will so you wont see me here than

[KC]

59. He cares

He cares about the people of our country and he cares about the people in other parts of the world. He doesn't believe in putting others down just to build himself or ones cause up.
He has the visions of Martin Luther King.. peace and commnunity, morals and ethics, and equality...and he also has the genuine spirit of Wellstone.
That's why I like him.

KC

[Tinoire]

61. Yes he DOES! And it's more than swarmy politician hypocrisy

because every bill he has every introduced, every word he ever said, every cause he's ever fought or pushed since he's been a public servant has shown that.

Oh we can make a change in this country by supporting this man!

The Democratic Party will not support him because he would put an end to their cohabitation with the corporations as they rape and plunder the poor and middle-class.

I see Kucinich as our ONLY chance for change.

After 4 absolutely evil years of having absolute EVIL in the White House, what we need to re-balance the damage Bush has done to our country, our image, us and the world, is 4 years of absolute GOOD.

What can we at DU do to help his campaign? SPREAD the word! Download the flyers from his web-site and tell EVERYONE you know about what he's already done, plans and WILL DO for America.

Jobs. Health-Care. Education. No more obscene amounts of OUR money funding the war machinery! No more Monsanto's telling us their garbage is safe to eat and carving up the entire world to grow this genetically engineered crop here, that genetically engineered crop their and killing the agricultural sustainability of the poorer nations. Of America even!

No more pesticides in our foods and poisoning our water! No more you and me shouldering the tax burden of the rich! No more coporations taking jobs off-shore and then directing our politics!

Yes pass out those flyers! Educate ourselves on why and how he beats every candidate out there and TELL PEOPLE!

Peace (ok, I'm calm now :))

[KC]

63. Whether

he wins or not...this really is what we 'ALL' need to strive for..to get this country (and hopefully the rest of the world)
back on the right track, morally and ethically..and this is what I want to leave to my child...a country of people with honor and dignity and the hope for a future..not one of fear and terrorism lurking around every corner, hate and prejudice and the constant beat of war drums.
KC