Is the Bush-GOP driven anti-Spain thing somehow racist?

[billbuckhead]

Too soft for the war on "terra" according to the Bush misadminstration.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

1. How is it racist?

The Spanish are European and white for the most part.

[deportivoI]

11. Spaniards are White

There are Africans that have become citizens of Spain, but it is just an old hate with its roots being England vs Spain.

[newyawker99]

22. Hi deportivoI!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

26. Yeah, because of the Moors I guess Sapniards are "not as white" as

the British who are themselves "ultra white".

[DenverDem]

2. Pretty much everything in the bushler demagoguery platform

is racist, nationalist or classist at its core. (Oreo Rice and houseboy Powell notwithstanding.)

[nicecakes]

3. Oreo Rice and houseboy Powell notwithstanding

That has racial overtones.

[DenverDem]

5. The remark was made with two intents.

To indicate that the two people of color are there as tokens and they would not be there if they were interested in policies that would benefit people of color.

They are hypocritical megalomaniacs that have sold out their racial identity for the apparent, if not real, power. They will be the first thrown under the bus when the shizzle hits the fizzle.

[leanings]

6. In other words,

it's fine to make disparaging remarks based on someone else's color so long as they're on the wrong side of the fence.

This website is really sickening sometimes.

[DenverDem]

7. The remarks are about them selling their color out.

Your overreaction is interesting. Especially since the remarks are about them personally and do not denigrate their color generally, merely point out their cynical allowance of true racists to use them as a ploy to hide their overarching racism.

[outinforce]

16. So, In Your Own View

White folks should only give high-level jobs to other white folks.

And I guess you would also say that neither RIce nor Powell had any qualifications for their jobs.

What a wonderful set of messages to send young minority kids -- that even folks like Rice and Poweel (or Jocelyn Elders, too, I guess) just got their jobs because they wer Black.

[Arkana]

18. I personally can't stand either of them

Or Clarence Thomas, for that matter. Not because of the color of their skin, but because I despise their politics.

[outinforce]

19. Fine.

Disagree with their politics and policies (I know I do).

But don't deamean them because of their race.

That, to me, just plays into the hands of the true racists.

[pnb]

27. If they are sellouts because of their color

Than that means all white democrats are sellouts to their race too then, huh?

Very interesting and thanks for sharing that.

23. remember that Harry Belafonte said Powell

was a house-negro.

[leanings]

24. Yep.

And he's a shit-head for saying it.

29. Maybe

I was just trying to make the point that the comment can be made without having racial overtones.

[outinforce]

30. Without Having Racial Overtones?

"I was just trying to make the point that the comment can be made without having racial overtones."

What?

Do you think Bellafonte would have made the comments if Powell wasn't Black?

Of course Bellafonte's comments had racial overtones.

That was the whole point of him making them!

32. I think we're having a terminology problem

because I agree with what you're saying.
Probably too complicated to sort out on the internet.
I'll try.
I thought the original comment about it having racial overtones was implying that the poster who had made the oreo comment was white. So I was interpreting "racial overtones" as meaning "racist". That's probably creating the confusion.
Maybe it wasn't implied or meant that way.
So all I was trying to get at when I made my original post about Belafonte was that that kind of comment could be made by one black man regarding another and not be racist. I think Belafonte was focusing on the oppressor/oppressed dichotomy more than the racial one, race is certainly a factor in it, but not racism.

It certainly does have racial overtones in the sense I'm realizing you are writing about.

[Spider Jerusalem]

4. No..just plain ol' xenophobic.

Just like the tsunami of right-wing hatred directed at France.

[leesa]

8. The only bigotry is the war on terrorism, that I can see, but even that is

less about murdering Muslims, althought they are happy to do that, than it is to do with stealing resources and, in other cases, like Haiti, getting cheap labor. Racism in America is usually about keeping labor cheap or free to the corporatists.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

9. No, but racism is an opportunistic infection that rides on this.

Whereas it couldn't ride, say, the anti-German or anti-French thing.

[ecstatic]

10. I think it is racist

They suggest that the Spanish voted to "appease terrorists." What an insult! The Spanish let their government know (loud and clear) that collaborating with lying governments and getting into illegal wars would not be tolerated. End of story.

[ArkDem]

12. And this is racist, how?

.

[ecstatic]

14. on second thought

It's not as much racist as... foreignist? Is that a word? hehehe...somehow I don't think it is... :-( It seems that the Bush Admin likes to insult the intelligence of people in foreign countries who do not agree with him.

[outinforce]

17. Yeah --

it's kind of like all those Europeans (and a few Canadians) who think Americans are nothing but stupid, lazy, war-mongering morons.

I guess you would call those Europeans adn Canadians whwo like to insult the intelliegence of Americans who do not agree with them "foreignists" as well?

[ecstatic]

20. I guess its all subjective

I would say that if the criteria used to judge a group is valid (without flaws), then there is no "ism" involved. The example you described is more inline with anti-Americanism. Facts are one thing, but insults and slurs are another.

[pnb]

28. Its an ism if you are wrong?

Excuse me but intent is the issue. If you say something bad that is true about someone, it means you can't possibly hate them? Or if you make an actual mistake in judgment, it would automatically mean you were TRYING to disparage another group?

Get real.

[deportivoI]

13. Forgot to Add

Zapatero has blue eyes and is about 6 feet tall. He is whiter than the Bush LOL

[AspenRose]

31. Gorgeous eyes too, I might add (Zapatero)

[SavageWombat]

15. What's racist...

... not to mention stupid, is anyone proposing boycotting Taco Bell as a response.

The average American's ignorance of his world never fails to frighten me.

[ArkDem]

21. What race is Taco Bell?

.

[Kickin_Donkey]

25. Yeah, I think there are some racial implications ...

given the fact that the Spaniards speak that "beaner" language used by all those brown bandito countries south of the border (sarcasm) and your average right-wing dumbshit confuses Spanish people with Mexicans – they all have names like "Juan" don't they (sarcasm)? Witness the ill-conceived freeper boycott of Taco Bell.