Pat Buchanan wants to know WHO FORGED the Uranium docs!!

[karlschneider]

He & Press both on today...
both of them asking for investigation.

[opihimoimoi]

1. Yeah, who da guy??

Who da guilty guy who make our Prez look like shit? Blame HIM

[TheBlob]

2. I think the better question would be

who authorized putting them in the SOTU?

[karlschneider]

3. Bill Press had a good point that doesn't get enough attention...

essentially "if I were the Prez, I'd be outraged and wanting some heads to roll..." didn't neeed to add the obvious, but I wonder how many people this will resonate with.
:-(

[CAB]

4. You know Bucannan

thinks the Isralies forged it.

[karlschneider]

5. That is far from inconceivable. They sure have the expertise & resources

:eyes:

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. This is the most closely vetted

Speech in the world Buchannan knows better, he used to work for a White House.... so you do NOT sneak things in that are not suposed to be there.

[jackstraw45]

8. SOTU intel discredited by Powell, Rice and others

at the LATEST on February 5, 2003 - 7 days after SOTU.

As I've asked in another thread, if Powell & Co. were able to debunk this intel in 4 days at CIA, why wasn't it done only days earlier for the State of the Union. And if it WAS done earlier, then we have high crimes my friends.

[opihimoimoi]

7. It don matter; the shrub KNEW it was false and went ahead. It made the

case for WAR and das what the intent was, WAR

[kayell]

10. If the Mossad had been the forgers

they probably would have checked who was in office at the time of the alleged documents. This smells much more of typical BushCo arrogance and imcompetence.

[ewagner]

15. good call

Moussad are not amateurs!

[Tinoire]

18. Good point. Not the Mossad- US + office of Ariel Sharon (Article)

The Nation reported this on 06/19

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030707&s=dreyfuss

More Missing Intelligence

<snip>

Not surprisingly, perhaps, it turns out that the same people are responsible for both. According to current and former US intelligence analysts and government officials, the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans funneled information, unchallenged, from Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress (INC) to Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, who in turn passed it on to the White House, suggesting that Iraqis would welcome the American invaders. The Office of Special Plans is led by Abram Shulsky, a hawkish neoconservative ideologue who got his start in politics working alongside Elliott Abrams in Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson's office in the 1970s. It was set up in fall 2001 as a two-man shop, but it burgeoned into an eighteen-member nerve center of the Pentagon's effort to distort intelligence about Iraq's WMDs and terrorist connections. A great deal of the bad information produced by Shulsky's office, which found its way into speeches by Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and George W. Bush, came from Chalabi's INC. Since the INC itself was sustained by its neocon allies in Washington, including the shadow "Central Command" at the American Enterprise Institute, it stands as perhaps the ultimate example of circular reasoning.

<snip>

According to the former official, also feeding information to the Office of Special Plans was a secret, rump unit established last year in the office of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel. This unit, which paralleled Shulsky's--and which has not previously been reported--prepared intelligence reports on Iraq in English (not Hebrew) and forwarded them to the Office of Special Plans. It was created in Sharon's office, not inside Israel's Mossad intelligence service, because the Mossad--which prides itself on extreme professionalism--had views closer to the CIA's, not the Pentagon's, on Iraq. This secretive unit, and not the Mossad, may well have been the source of the forged documents purporting to show that Iraq tried to purchase yellowcake uranium for weapons from Niger in West Africa, according to the former official.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5548&mesg_id=5548&listing_type=search

posted by DoYouEverWonder

[karlschneider]

20. You're right, I was forgetting how sloppy a job it was. n/t

[ClintonTyree]

9. The White House's

inaction to find the culprit who supplied the misinformation proves one thing; they know they are to blame. Nobody else has come forward to take a bullet for the chimp here, I find that curious. Surely there must be SOMEONE to blame, as the chimp is never wrong.

[kayell]

11. Very curious, the things that * doesn't want to have investigated

9/11, forged docs, ......

[Hubert Flottz]

14. Bill Clinton must have told Bush the wrong shit!

And then there was 9/11! That messed up everything Clinton didn't already mess up!

[HERVEPA]

12. I did <nt>

[ewagner]

13. I can't believe I'm agreeing with Buchanan!

I saw Buchanan and press when those statements were made. Pat made it very clear that he understands the speechwriting process and he cannot believe that the information was not thoroughly vetted by the writers before it was included in the speech.......

He also made a good point...sorta a cheap shot at his own network really...wonders why some of the"crack reporters" at MSNBC haven't asked these questions of the speechwriters...says they know who they are and they haven't asked them...

....jjjjeeeeeesssshhhhhh...agreeing with Pat...end times must be near...is it raining frogs out there yet?

[Augspies]

16. No...He's right

We should be asking who forged the documents, and why; cause, the rabbit hole is deep. This is a dangerous question for the Bushies; because, you can damn well be sure they know who forged it, and they don't want anyone else trying to figure it out.

Jeremy

[tkmorris]

17. Well

I'd like to know who forged the documents as well. Unfortunately if they ever determine who it was it gives the Bush admin a scapegoat they don't deserve.

The real issue I have with the documents isn't that they existed in the first place it's more that they were used to hoodwink Americans into a war, even though they were known to be forged. I don't want the forgers head, I want the head of the man who utilized the forgery to commit a crime.

[huckleberry]

19. I agree -

I just "assumed" that it was Chalabi or one of his gang who forged the document. I'm more concerned with the bush admin running with it.