I just called up Joe Lieberman's Wash office & campagin HQ & asked

[Pallas180]

to speak to someone in management of the campaing.

I then told them that I have been a lifetime democrat and
worked in every campaign...but Joe Lieberman has to stop
bashing other democrats and stick to bashing bushit- and if
he doesn't we won't get in, he's hurting the democratic party
splitting it, and he better move somewaht to left, because he
sounds just like bushit and if he's the nominee, people won't
vot e for bushlite when they can vote for bush...

the guy tried to convince me of the differences between lieberman
and bush but I told him it wasn;t coming across that way, and if
he continued..democrats would just not vote. He has to stop bashing
other democrats...

I also told him that I had not made up my mind yet about which democratic candidate, but that if Joe continued, I'd stay home and
not vote.

Lieberman's Wash office is 202-224-4041

His campaign office is 703-894-2004

Call and be POLITE but get our point across. He's destroying the democratic party.

[wryter2000]

1. Well done, Pallas eom

eom

[madfloridian]

2. And I just emailed him.

I said he would never get our votes, but the more he bashed Dean the more support Dean got.

[foo_bar]

3. if he'll never get your vote

why would he bother changing for you?

[madfloridian]

23. Oh geez

n/t

[Doctor Pedantic]

4. Good for You!

We need to close ranks against the Republicans, and Lieberman talking like one isn't helping anyone. Kerry seems to get this (so far). If we have a bloody primary season, it won't matter who wins the nomination -- we'll be handing victory to Dubya.

[newsguyatl]

5. kudos to you, pallas!

i hope others will follow your lead...

i know i will.

[Pallas180]

6. We have the power-but we keep talking to ourselves.! thanks for

your support, guys, but we gotta get our opinions out to
where they count! in their ears...it's not just Lieberman
but Kerry too. the bashing gives votes to that bastid in
the WH (I told them that too!!)

[Judson39]

7. Lieberman is more interested in winning the election

Radicals of the left are past history ...

[Le Taz Hot]

8. Nice talking point

You get that from Rove or From? :eyes:

[newsguyatl]

9. yeh

coming from a "newbie" too... oh joy :eyes:

hard to distinguish from rove's people and lieberman's people now, eh taz?

[Doctor Pedantic]

10. Not Quite, Newsguy...

Rove wants Dean to be the nominee because he thinks he's Dubya's weakest opponent. Boy, will he be in for a surprise next November!

[Judson39]

11. Not one to whiper worthless sweet nothings in your ears

Elections are for real and not for sounding off about how nice it would be if your man won ... radicals are not anyone's favorites anymore.

BTW, being a newby is not all that bad, if you have no agenda to defend.

[newsguyatl]

13. whew

thank goodness... i certainly wouldn't want anyone 'whipering' ANYthing in my ears...

and btw, my passion for dean is no agenda my friend...

[Pallas180]

12. Radicals of left are trying to rid us of radicals of the Right. the GOP

wake up and smell the Constitution burning Judson.

[JohnKleeb]

16. yep pallas

we wanna get rid of the patriot act, find new uses for excess pentagon spending. I know we can fiscally afford universal pre school care, Dennis K knows this is possible from his job on a pentagon budget committee.

[Judson39]

17. The only thing that matters is that Bush is defeated

yet some in here want to make that task difficult if not impossible.

All that is needed is to nudge Bush on the issues, and make him out the liar he really is. Bringing un-needed baggage, such as any form of radicalism, or trying to keep many of the expensive social programs, will not only turn off the undecided voters but divide the Democrats even more.

Getting rid of Bush should be priority one!

[burr]

19. The baggage comes from those marching in lock step with the DLC.

Wasteful spending programs? Try the fact that the DLC wants to throw our tax dollars at every new military project or homeland security project without looking at the effectiveness of this spending. Many of the dollars spent in the defense department, even those who allocate the funds do not get the full information for its classified uses. And now we spend more on defense than on every other nation on Earth, as was the case before 9/11!

In terms of social spending, our nation spends less per person on healthcare and education than does any other industrialized nation on Earth. Most of these public healthcare dollars are restricted to the extremely poor or elderly. In education almost all of the education dollars come from the state and local levels, with almost nothing but higher unfunded mandates coming from the federal level. And welfare has all but been abolished. Social programs, in the years we invested in them, they gave our nation a huge return on its money. But now we are just interested power and money...the cornerstone of the neoestablishment.

But of course to develope a specific agenda to deal with the nation's current problems just wouldn't be moderate, would it? It's so much easier being divisive and to rip the ideas of others as being "radical" or "unelectable".

[Rhiannon12866]

21. Intelligent and informed rant

that I thought deserved a reply.:-)

I saw Lieberman on cable earlier tonight and he was just spouting the same old rhetoric. Of course, it was probably filmed before his office took this phone call.:-)

[LiberalLibra]

24. burr: Try the fact that as bad as the DLC is they make Bush look like.....

....the lieing, cheating, back biting, anti freedom peice of crap he is. Get a clue, there is no such thing as perfection not even among liberals!!!!

[sandnsea]

15. Sounds like Republican brainwashing

Radicals of the left have always led, it just takes the middle longer to recognize what they're saying and the right just never does.

[sandnsea]

14. Join the Democratic Party or get out of the way...

and let Mr. Dean or Mr. Kerry take the lead.

That's what I told him.

[Rhiannon12866]

18. Good for you!

You made some excellent points, BTW. I hope they are smart enough to listen.

Maybe I'll do this tomorrow. I've already had my ``brush with greatness'' for the day. An animal rights group called me and asked if they could put me through to the governor's office so I could urge him to sign animal protection legislation that is sitting on his desk. I e-mail the guy all the time, on various issues, so I certainly didn't mind giving him a call for an excellent cause.:-)

[oasis]

20. If Joe was just half as hard on the Enron pirates as he is on Dean,

Ken Lay would most likely be in the slammer. As committee chair, Joe just lacked the energy to go on the attack. I wonder why.

Oh well.

[LiberalLibra]

22. SMART MOVE THERE!! Threaten to not vote at all, now that will.....

....sure hurt the neo CONS won't it???? NOT!!! PLEASE explain how not voting at all is any better than Lieberman bashing Dems? Both hurt Dems by giving the appearance that reTHUGS have the answers and that Bush is the ticket. IMHO the better course would be to mobalize the entire country one person at a time to vote for a Dem any Dem (hopefully anyone besides Lieberman).

[Rhiannon12866]

25. I think this was an idle threat just to make his point

I can't see too many people from DU just not voting. The push to remove the squatter-in-chief from the White House is just too strong. However, I agree with you about Lieberman. I would vote for him over Bush*, but sincerely hope there are better options.