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David Zephyr
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:42 PM Original message |
The Word "Marriage" Should Remain Heterosexual |
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Exultant Democracy
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. What about for the Children they adopt? |
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David Zephyr
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:46 PM Original message |
Easy One. |
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Exultant Democracy
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. But they can't say "my parents are married." |
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geomon666
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Thu Aug-07-03 11:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
45. I guess |
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comsymp
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Thu Aug-07-03 11:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Oh great- now we have to replace "Over the Rainbow" |
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sexybomber
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Fri Aug-08-03 09:01 AM Response to Reply #45 |
62. "my parents are unionized" |
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Alexander
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Fri Aug-08-03 02:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
57. Well, if you want to get technical, they both aren't the child's parents. |
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SPICYHOT
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Thu Aug-07-03 09:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Don't you think |
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lastliberalintexas
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Fri Aug-08-03 09:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
65. So do you think that |
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Maple
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Celts had 10 different |
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JohnKleeb
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Thu Aug-07-03 09:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. thanks for the history maple |
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Maeve
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Fri Aug-08-03 09:18 AM Response to Reply #32 |
64. Marriage for the Celts was to protect the rights of the child |
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Stephanie
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. What about calling it a civil wedding? |
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Misinformed01
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. Time for a change then! |
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David Zephyr
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Who is the "Wife" and Who is the "Husband"? |
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Misinformed01
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:58 PM Original message |
Thank you! I can see us thirty years down the road; |
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Maple
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. ????? |
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mitchtv
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Thu Aug-07-03 09:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. 28 years together, Partner and I decided |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 05:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
79. Congratulations on Your 28 Years and Thanks for Your Post |
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donco6
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Thu Aug-07-03 09:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. We're both husbands. |
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jpgray
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
7. Why give them this inch? Civil unions/marriage = separate but equal (nt) |
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David Zephyr
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. A Really Bad Analogy. |
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jpgray
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Civil unions are not marriages. They will be separate but equal, no? (nt) |
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jpgray
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Also, separate but equal was NOT blacks wanting to be called "whites" |
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waggawagga
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Fri Aug-08-03 01:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
55. Hmmmm |
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TheBigGuy
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. I agree with this...this is a very common sense postion. (MCC, too) |
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David Zephyr
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. And the MCC Has It Right. |
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Cornus
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. I agree |
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David Zephyr
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Congratulations! |
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Darth_Ole
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Fri Aug-08-03 12:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
50. Now that I think about DaveZephyr's post |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 05:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
80. Thanks for Your Thoughtful Input. |
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Thu Aug-07-03 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. "Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediments." |
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ParanoidPat
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
16. I wouldn't count on it! The meaning of words is often transitory...... |
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Cheswick2.0
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
17. David, gracious as always |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
18. Seperate but equal, huh? |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 05:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
82. IndianaGreen Makes A Similar Point |
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BlueState
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
19. Until very recently I agreed with you. |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 02:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
68. Congratulations on 15 Years. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
20. It should be a matter of indifference as to what it's called. |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 05:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
83. Nicely Put and Thank You for Sharing About Your Sister-In-Law |
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CWebster
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
22. Why do you use that as your measure? |
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BlueState
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Good point! |
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jono
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
23. I would have agreed until |
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jpgray
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. If all secular marriage was called a "civil union", that would be helpful |
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BlueState
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Bingo! |
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roughsatori
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Thu Aug-07-03 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
26. "Have some sense of grace. let it go." |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 02:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
69. I Am a Socialist Queer...Hardly Conservative |
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donco6
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Fri Aug-08-03 05:25 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. I agree with you, Zephyr. |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 05:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Thanks, Donco6 |
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Plaid Adder
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Thu Aug-07-03 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
28. Used to agree, but have changed my mind lately. |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 05:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
84. Congratulations, The Plaid Adder for Your 15 Years. |
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greekspeak
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Thu Aug-07-03 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. Having two different terms is a semantic argument...right NOW |
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SPICYHOT
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Thu Aug-07-03 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
31. What is the reason |
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jagguy
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Thu Aug-07-03 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
33. can't argue with this |
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dsc
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Thu Aug-07-03 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
36. Interesting and I largely agree |
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I Lean Left
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Thu Aug-07-03 10:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Barney Frank also said |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 05:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
77. Thanks. |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 02:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
70. Thanks for Your Input |
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ulysses
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Thu Aug-07-03 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
37. I keep breaking into a rousing chorus of "Tradition" |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
88. Fiddling On My Roof! |
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ulysses
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:30 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. *channels Topol* |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:42 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Topol |
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ulysses
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Fri Aug-08-03 07:00 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. LOL |
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TrogL
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Thu Aug-07-03 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
39. Same sex rites are well documented |
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comsymp
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Thu Aug-07-03 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
40. No Ire from this fellow 'mo |
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ulysses
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Thu Aug-07-03 11:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. comsymp! |
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comsymp
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Thu Aug-07-03 11:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Hey Uly! |
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Crewleader
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Thu Aug-07-03 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. I agree with you DavidZephyr |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 05:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
85. Thanks, Crew! |
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tedoll78
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Thu Aug-07-03 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
44. Something that you conveniently ignore: |
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IndianaGreen
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Thu Aug-07-03 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
47. What if a particular religion chooses to marry same sex couples |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Aug-08-03 12:09 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Followup to my post: Episcopalians recognize gay unions |
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comsymp
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Fri Aug-08-03 12:23 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. <Sigh> There she goes... |
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Against ME
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Fri Aug-08-03 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
48. But, historically gays and lesbians have been |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Aug-08-03 12:35 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. In many countries, there have always been two marriage ceremonies |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:19 PM Response to Reply #52 |
91. Wisdom. |
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Rowdyboy
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Fri Aug-08-03 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
53. I only have 15 years with my guy so I bow to some of you... |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 04:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. Congratulation on Your 15 Years Together. |
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waggawagga
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Fri Aug-08-03 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
54. Another Solution |
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tedoll78
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Fri Aug-08-03 02:10 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Do you know the precedent on separate-but-equal? |
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election_2004
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Fri Aug-08-03 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
58. Question for David Zephyr |
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BlueState
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Fri Aug-08-03 02:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
71. And I think that the scenario you describe... |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
87. Election_2004 |
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election_2004
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Sat Aug-09-03 04:33 AM Response to Reply #87 |
107. That would be great..... |
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soothsayer
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Fri Aug-08-03 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
59. So only heterosexuals can "really" be married |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
90. Hi, Soothsayer. |
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foreigncorrespondent
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Fri Aug-08-03 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
60. David, while I don't fully support what you are saying... |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
92. Thanks for Your Thoughts. |
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buddhamama
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Fri Aug-08-03 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
61. the word, imho, David |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
95. You Always Have "Say" |
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goddess40
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Fri Aug-08-03 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
63. "Traditions" some times need to be updated |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
97. I Hear You. |
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qb
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Fri Aug-08-03 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
66. If you plan to reserve the word "marriage" |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:35 PM Response to Reply #66 |
98. Hi, FTBC. |
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lastliberalintexas
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Fri Aug-08-03 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
67. Well, even though I am just a a straight female, |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
101. To the Lastliberalintexas |
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DemBones DemBones
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Fri Aug-08-03 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
72. I agree with you, and I support laws to give you and your companion |
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TrogL
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Fri Aug-08-03 04:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Other than the obvious |
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DemocratSinceBirth
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Fri Aug-08-03 04:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Anatomy Perhaps |
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TrogL
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
86. I assumed that was obvious |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:58 PM Response to Reply #73 |
104. Women are Superior. |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:54 PM Response to Reply #72 |
102. Thank You DemBones DemBones |
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arwalden
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Fri Aug-08-03 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
81. I've Never Been Crazy About The Word "Marriage" Either... BUT |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:57 PM Response to Reply #81 |
103. We Agree, Arwalden |
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Jonte_1979
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
89. I think that should be left up to the word to decide |
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jono
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:24 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. LMAO! |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Aug-08-03 07:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
106. Hmmmmm.... |
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David__77
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
94. well, the solution is to not have the state endorse "marriage" |
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Maeve
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Fri Aug-08-03 06:38 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. Reasonable solution |
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Mairead
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
108. "It has never had any other meaning"? Not so! |
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Kamika
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
109. agree as a christian and liberal |
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DemLikr
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Sat Aug-09-03 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
110. I disagree. The "meaning" of words change over time in all |
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