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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Fri Aug-08-03 09:42 PM Original message |
Let's outgrow this notion that believers and non-believers can't co-exist |
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brokensymmetry
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Fri Aug-08-03 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. Agree. |
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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Judson39
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
101. Not so |
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JitterbugPerfume
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Fri Aug-08-03 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good Grief |
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Cheswick2.0
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Fri Aug-08-03 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. kick |
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. Are you proposing that we never discuss it? |
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jagguy
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. discussion is good |
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
37. Ahh, but isn't a value judgment |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I'm proposing we let others be about their religious beliefs |
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rasputin1952
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. I concur with your basic premise NSMA... |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Sure. I do think it's a bit humorous that "don't antagonize" is said |
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. Very true, |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Yes . Very much so. |
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karlschneider
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. The solution is simple, but unlikely: |
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patcox2
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. You are the reason for the problems, with references to "delusions" |
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bloom
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. to:karlschneider" never be any true peace" with statements like that..n/t |
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jagguy
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. oh, you must be one of the ones who will suffer damnation (satire) |
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. I'm with ya, Karl |
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bloom
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. The only religions/non-religions that I have a problem with |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. Karl I wish you would have stated that you preferred the separation |
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Terwilliger
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Sat Aug-09-03 12:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. like suggesting George Bush is anything other than ethical? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sat Aug-09-03 01:02 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. I disagree. |
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Terwilliger
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Sat Aug-09-03 01:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. hmmm |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sat Aug-09-03 02:09 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Yeah really I disagree. |
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Terwilliger
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Sat Aug-09-03 12:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
43. well! |
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maha
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Sat Aug-09-03 03:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
64. To which delusion do you refer? |
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starroute
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. It isn't about belief, it's about fear |
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bloom
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I would like to see Christianity evolve more intellectually - |
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jagguy
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. how so ? |
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bloom
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I don't see it set in stone |
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jagguy
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. OK thanks |
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blondeatlast
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Yup--people like me are the answer. Liberal, freedom FROM |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Is Halliburton a religious entity? |
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rasputin1952
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. Do not let fear halt your search for the truth... |
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Sophree
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
74. Fear is the mind killer |
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DemBones DemBones
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Sat Aug-09-03 02:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
54. Traditional Christianity is indeed expanding in South America, Africa, |
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Muddleoftheroad
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Sat Aug-09-03 01:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
58. All of the threads |
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rasputin1952
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Sat Aug-09-03 03:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Ah...a refreshing drink of sweet water... |
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maha
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Sat Aug-09-03 03:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
66. And you scare Christians |
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JanMichael
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. Hell I just married a future Episcopalian Minister! |
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blondeatlast
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I was about to say--that's a bit of a switch, JM! |
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JanMichael
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. No malice. That's my plan. |
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jonnyblitz
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. uncompromised adoration... |
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Crewleader
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. well said NSMA |
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blondeatlast
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. Amen! (or whatever) |
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DrGonzoLives
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Fri Aug-08-03 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
22. Not at DU |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Oh come on DAMMIT...you INDIANANS LOVE |
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Clete
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
31. Dunno what to say. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Exactly! |
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Rowdyboy
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
32. Isn't it the damned truth... |
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Skittles
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
33. I CO-EXIST WITH LOTS OF BELIEVERS |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. And if we don't tolerate you whatcha gonna do? |
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Fri Aug-08-03 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
39. I dont agree |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sat Aug-09-03 12:00 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Thanks ya drunken bum! |
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Forkboy
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Sat Aug-09-03 12:02 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Hey...I resemble that remark! |
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Wonder
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
87. laughing is good too! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sat Aug-09-03 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
45. Get along? Sure. |
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Blue_Chill
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Sat Aug-09-03 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
46. I used to agree with you |
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Terwilliger
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Sat Aug-09-03 12:46 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. you haven't removed your cross avatar yet |
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Blue_Chill
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Sat Aug-09-03 12:47 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. So you don't believe in religious freedom? |
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Terwilliger
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Sat Aug-09-03 01:19 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I do believe it...in fact, I should be free from your religion |
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Blue_Chill
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Sat Aug-09-03 02:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. lol you are funny |
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Sat Aug-09-03 01:01 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. And you're an anti-anti-theist |
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Blue_Chill
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Sat Aug-09-03 01:05 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. They would be correct |
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Festivito
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Sat Aug-09-03 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
56. Unfortunately, some "atheists" insist they are above religion. |
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rasputin1952
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Sat Aug-09-03 02:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. A good definition of religion... |
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Festivito
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:56 PM Response to Reply #60 |
82. Then Atheism would be a religion. |
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rasputin1952
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Sat Aug-09-03 07:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
104. But I hold that atheism IS a religion... |
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Festivito
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Sat Aug-09-03 08:16 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. Some Atheists are really touchy about calling it a religion. |
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Cheswick2.0
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Sun Aug-10-03 07:36 AM Response to Reply #109 |
127. I don't think atheism is a religion until.......... |
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Liberator_Rev
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Sun Aug-10-03 07:06 PM Response to Reply #127 |
147. That's when atheists become a CHURCH, or "Religious Institution" |
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polmaven
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Sat Aug-09-03 07:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
106. I think you are absolutely right. |
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Festivito
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Sun Aug-10-03 05:23 AM Response to Reply #106 |
124. Sounds good. There are a few problemed persons. |
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charlie
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Sat Aug-09-03 04:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. Nah |
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Festivito
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:22 PM Response to Reply #72 |
96. A parenthetical and contraction does not hide the "IS" |
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charlie
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Sat Aug-09-03 07:02 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. No, I don't see it that way |
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Festivito
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Sat Aug-09-03 08:09 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. small-n nothing practiced is different from Nothing practiced. |
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TxanGoddess
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Sun Aug-10-03 01:38 PM Response to Reply #108 |
146. Secularism? |
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Wonder
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:04 PM Response to Reply #56 |
88. George Carlin has a whole routine on believers |
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Festivito
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:37 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. If only everyone were as humorous as George Carlin. |
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Wonder
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:47 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. A civility only lacking around here? |
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Festivito
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Sat Aug-09-03 07:45 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. You said "only," I did not. |
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Wonder
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Sun Aug-10-03 12:41 AM Response to Reply #105 |
112. hmmm |
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buddhamama
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Sat Aug-09-03 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
57. i'm all for co-existing |
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Sat Aug-09-03 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
61. kick |
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ForrestGump
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Sat Aug-09-03 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
63. It'd be nice if some of the 'non-believers' on this thread |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sat Aug-09-03 03:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. People are a powerful force for good or ill |
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Sat Aug-09-03 04:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. I agree completely |
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. I agree with both of you |
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Wonder
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:08 PM Response to Reply #79 |
91. and one's choice of WORDS can be |
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Muddleoftheroad
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Sun Aug-10-03 07:55 AM Response to Reply #70 |
129. Not exactly |
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Sat Aug-09-03 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
67. So You Admit That You Exist, eh? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sat Aug-09-03 04:25 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. No dammit |
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Sat Aug-09-03 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
68. As an atheist, I concur. |
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noiretextatique
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Sat Aug-09-03 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
71. as one who is on the fence |
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Terwilliger
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:37 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. hahaha |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. ROFL! |
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Wonder
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. I believe in another's right to believe in that that enables |
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noiretextatique
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:21 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. supra-religionist |
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Wonder
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:32 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Affirmation of Faith and Spirit does require vigilance |
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
73. So we sit here in Plato's cave, arguing about the shadows on the wall |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:42 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Admitting that we don't know shit on this one would be a great |
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Sophree
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. A perfect place to start |
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Wonder
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. yes we argue about shadows on the wall while we DENY |
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rasputin1952
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Sat Aug-09-03 08:01 PM Response to Reply #73 |
107. Thank you starroute, I am impressed... |
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Sun Aug-10-03 08:00 AM Response to Reply #73 |
130. LOL |
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Wonder
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
75. YES I AM DOWN WITH THAT |
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Sat Aug-09-03 05:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:01 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Dude, what you're doing is spamming |
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:06 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. I think spamming is automated. |
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charlie
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:08 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. LOL |
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Wonder
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:09 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. is this some kind of an |
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charlie
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:11 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. No |
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Wonder
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:29 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Fair enough. |
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
89. My purpose as a Christian is to love my fellow human beings. |
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Wonder
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Sat Aug-09-03 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
99. AND WOULDN'T IT BE FUN |
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Shanty Oilish
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Sun Aug-10-03 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
110. Why not let others be. |
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JanMichael
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Sun Aug-10-03 12:40 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. While polite I think you're also mis-taken. |
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Wonder
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Sun Aug-10-03 12:47 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. agnostic does seem a more human and mankind friendly |
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Shanty Oilish
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Sun Aug-10-03 12:51 AM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Ever read Geo Smith? |
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JanMichael
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Sun Aug-10-03 01:03 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. You've read that book?! |
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Shanty Oilish
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Sun Aug-10-03 01:30 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. I don't count. I've read everything. |
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JanMichael
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Sun Aug-10-03 01:36 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. A nice one would be preferable. |
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Sun Aug-10-03 02:16 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Preferable to none? |
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JanMichael
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Sun Aug-10-03 02:44 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. I truly do not care if there's a god. |
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Sun Aug-10-03 03:40 AM Response to Reply #121 |
123. I truly don't care if there's a Sasquatch, but... |
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Sun Aug-10-03 01:05 AM Response to Reply #111 |
116. While I am not trying to be fanciful... |
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JanMichael
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Sun Aug-10-03 01:16 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. I'm a unique individual. |
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Sun Aug-10-03 03:31 AM Response to Reply #117 |
122. I love that about you. |
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rasputin1952
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Sun Aug-10-03 06:44 AM Response to Reply #117 |
126. Being unique is a quality we all share... |
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Sun Aug-10-03 06:25 AM Response to Reply #116 |
125. My answer to number 2... |
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rasputin1952
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Sun Aug-10-03 09:12 AM Response to Reply #125 |
132. Yes, I would be dismayed... |
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Sun Aug-10-03 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
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Sun Aug-10-03 09:19 AM Response to Reply #128 |
133. well now... |
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rasputin1952
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Sun Aug-10-03 09:34 AM Response to Reply #133 |
135. But Christians are not the only mindless adherents of religion... |
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Sun Aug-10-03 09:38 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. you make a good point. |
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rasputin1952
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Sun Aug-10-03 10:15 AM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Not to worry... |
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Sun Aug-10-03 12:43 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. He's not a Christian |
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Sun Aug-10-03 01:04 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. Ah...Good point!... |
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Sophree
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Sun Aug-10-03 01:18 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. There's a great line in Hillary's book |
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Sun Aug-10-03 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
131. As A Non Believer I Don't Proselytize... I Don't Judge... I Don't Hate... |
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rasputin1952
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Sun Aug-10-03 09:25 AM Response to Reply #131 |
134. Very well put... |
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Sun Aug-10-03 12:51 PM Response to Reply #131 |
140. I completely understand - with one caveat |
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rasputin1952
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Sun Aug-10-03 01:09 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. NSMA...There are times I wish I had your eloquence... |
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Sun Aug-10-03 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
138. What a great thread! |
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Sun Aug-10-03 01:16 PM Response to Reply #138 |
143. Welcome to the fray!... |
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145. You guys really started waxing philosophic |
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