Weird experience today. . .

[daligirrl]

One of my previously obnoxious co-workers (a Bush fundraiser in my VERY conservative workplace) seemed near to tears today. I have been giving him the business about a number of issues, but he found out on his own about the success of the Michael Moore movie today and he is upset that it is going to "bring up stuff that nobody needs to hear right now" which says to me that he knows that the gig is up. He's one of those neo-cons who knows that something is wrong, but is terrified of the consequences of something like the truth coming out in the media. I asked him what he was afraid of. Aren't we all in this together?

[vetwife]

1. I think I would have said, well are you Republican or American?

Truth should always come out..he ain't God you know. You won't burn in Hell if you don't believe anymore. but then I don't have to work with this person..LOL

Koolaid wearing off folks !

[daligirrl]

5. I don't post often

But when I do, it's usually about this very difficult person. He has in the last few years tried to make my life difficult, as I am very vocal about my beliefs. I have watched, in the last three years, a very hard time for him. He is a very intelligent person in most ways, but a die hard Bush supporter. He has seen much of what I predicted come true.

[iconoclastic cat]

13. My first post/reply is to say, great tag line! Spread that around!

"Are you a Republican or American?"
Ms. Vetwife, I am slapping that on a shirt tomorrow!

[napi21]

15. Welcone Iconoclastic Cat! You'll like it here. n/t

[vetwife]

25. welcome to DU and please do slap that on a shirt..I made it up

...LOL...this bunch sure makes one think creative..Inever thought about making a CD other than singing until they pushed me into my Get out the Vote Take it Back narration Cd I put out and on Cafe press. They inspire you, I tell ya !

[Skittles]

24. a caller to the Washington Journal a while back

said instead of hearing I SUPPORT PRESIDENT* BUSH he wished more people would say I SUPPORT AMERICA.

[toddzilla]

2. afraid of being wrong..

seems to be the new thing, infallibility. i'm wrong often, we all are.

[Warpy]

9. It's a bit more than that

he's not only afraid of being wrong, he's afraid to admit that he's been fooled. When he does, he's going to become rabidly anti-Bush.

23. Fear of Error

Usually is related to the inability to accept evidence of fallibility, which in turn is connected to moral certaintude.

"You see, God speaks to me, therefore I can't be wrong. If I were to contemplate my alleged errors, then I would have to consider the possibility that the voice I hear isn't God, or god isn't perfect. Both ideas scare me!"

If God isn't speaking to me, then who is? If God isn't perfect, then why worship God?"

Oh, hell with that! ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

[Alerter_]

3. Bush has shamed America

most everyone knows it. We wanted someone to punish the terrorists that attacked us on 911, not to send death sqauds in the middle of the night to kidnap people and torture and rape them.

At least Bush is consistent - when he says something, he means the opposite. Like Kennedy said, "Saddam's rape rooms have reopened under Bush".

If the Neo Cons survive this, our Constitutional, Democratic Republic is gone.

[Rick Myers]

4. With a screen name like that, weird should be a daily event!!

Welcome to DU... Love that name!!! I'm a big Dali fan...

Isn't it creepy that all the Repukes are OH SO QUIET right now? The shiite's hit the fan, and now WE OWN IT!!!

Vote R and watch the World BURN!

or

Vote Kerry and negotiate an exit strategy!!!!! BushCo will not (and cannot) go to the UN. We need a change at the top!!!

[daligirrl]

7. Thank you. . .

And I love this forum. I don't have a lot of time to actually post, but this is something that keeps me sane at work. This particular guy has been a thorn in my side. I guess I should really want to gloat to him about how wrong he's been, but there's too much at stake. I think that no matter what he will vote Bush. He is just not capable at this point to change his stripes, but I guess there is hope for everyone. It is enough that he has vocalized his doubts about things.

[daligirrl]

8. A funny aside about this guy

Is that some of us are sure that he is one of those "prayed away the Gay" types. His wife is a major bitch and always starts going off randomly about Gays at company functions. He grew up in this town and some people know him from high school days. He has been married for about 10 years now and they have no children. They are fundies and always trying to pass out religious literature at the office, but since someone complained, he doesn't do it anymore.

There are a few of us Progressives there, and the guy with all the info grew up there too, and is Gay.

[belle]

16. Oh! Interesting. I wonder if the particular nature of these abuses...

is especially getting under his skin. "Things we don't need to hear about right now." If he's seriously in the closet, I don't doubt that anything smacking of homoerotic salacious secrets being dragged into the light make him break out in a cold sweat: some of those photos look like exactly the sort of depravity the ex-gays are always swearing the "gay scene" is all about, the fundies' worst fever dream (and, no doubt, deepest secret fantasy). Now imagine that you're an ex-gay and your chosen safe haven of virtue--Bush's Repub bots and faithful warriors off on a moral mission in heathen Iraq--are acting like *that.*

[daligirrl]

19. I had that discussion

with someone tonight. He and his shrew of a wife are terrified of Gays. They find gay in everything, and don't hesitate to tell people about it. Maybe if I send them some gay porn they'll finally be blessed with a child.

[daligirrl]

20. You hit the nail on the head. . .

Ooh, does that sound Gay?

[mellowinman]

6. I would feel a very strong urge to kick his ass

ideologically speaking, that is. I don't know whether I'd act on it, though. This ain't over yet.

We're headed down a very bumpy road, and it's taking a lot of bad shit to happen in order for things to go our way. I hate the "end justifies the means" mindset, so I try not to go there.

My complete and full obsession for almost four years has been to see Bush pack his bags.

For it to happen at the price of America's place in the world is one hell of a price to pay, though.

I'm really pissed at those motherfuckers that held this inferior and pathetic man as some kind of anointed savior of America. I LIKED the direction this country was headed while Clinton was our president, and that whole impeachment/Whitewater/Lewsinski fiasco really left a bad taste in my mouth.

I think the Rightwing SHOULD cry. They left their values at the doorstep a long time ago, and even the "nice" ones have plenty of blood on their hands.

My best idea is to invite them to some gay weddings.

[DustMolecule]

10. I can sympathize

A (die-hard republican) woman at work told me that 'she doesn't think she's gonna vote this year.' I was truly STUNNED when I realized that she would rather NOT VOTE than to vote for someone who wasn't a Republican!

She said her husband had 'no doubts' about his support for *. I said that I 'don't get' people like that and amazingly she said that 'she doesn't get it either' and they've been having lots of arguments about this lately.

[bobthedrummer]

11. As an American citizen that was targeted by the illegal Operation CHAOS

in 1969, I know a bit about what this guy doesn't want to hear.
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

[rooboy]

12. It's a different kind of trauma for repukes...

there's a quasi-religious attachment to their belief in *, which is where they get their arrogance from. Like the fundies like to say, it's a "know that you know that you know" kind of belief.

To them, this is the equivalent of finding out that Jesus was satan in disguise. It's a very traumatic experience, I'm sure.

[daligirrl]

14. We have several other nuts of this stripe

in the office. One, an ex-vet from Desert Storm, is really into that "Left Behind" thing, and bought copies to leave in the breakroom. The other has a son who is a major player in the "right-to-life" movement. However, both of these particular nuts have removed their Bush-Cheyney stickers and retained only their right to life stickers. Major cognitive dissonance, I think.

[rooboy]

18. My wife's grandfather...

spend several years in a Russian POW camp, after being captured with his fellow German soldiers during WWII. After all the crap he went through he still died believing Hitler was good for Germany.

Go figure...

[neebob]

17. Stuff that nobody needs to hear ...

like wrongdoing and negligence and stuff? That's amazing.

[Blue-Jay]

21. It's like Franken says.

Republicans love their party like a 5 year old loves his mommy.

Looks like your little boy is experiencing growing pains.

[Bake]

22. I guess nobody needs to hear the TRUTH.

"Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you FREE!"

But of course, nobody needs to hear the TRUTH. Fucking wingnut. I hope she chokes on it. And I hope she finds out her wingnut husband is a closet gay-porn addict. I've had it with people like this.

Bake

[Catherine Vincent]

26. If someone is goanna get that emotional about their politics

they need to step outside and get a life. This would apply to anyone, no matter if they are a repuke or a liberal. I doubt very seriously if shrubnuts gives a rats ass about him. If bush loses, so what? They have to put up with someone they don't care for like we did.