Well, look-ee here. Frank Lutz Repug pollster.

[chaska]

From the Wesley Clark Yahoo group:

I actually know Frank Luntz from my days as a Teenage Republican (I
know, but it was a different GOP back then and I was a VERY liberal
Republican!) in Connecticut back in the 1970s. We also went to the
University of Pennsylvania at the same time, and he even used to live down the street from my current home in Arlington. Anyway, my
feelings about Luntz can't really be printed in a family discussion
group, but let's just say he was a weaselly/slimeball back in the
1970s, he was a weaselly/slimeball in the 1980s and 1990s, and he's a
weaselly/slimeball today. But he's a clever weaselly/slimeball,
having written the "Contract ON America" for Newt and friends.
Blech...

> I don't place too much faith in commentary when they can't even get
> the state of a senator running for president right. Edwards is the
> Senator from NC not SC.
>
> How have we come to this anyway? How the hell is it acceptable to
> have partisan pollsters? I was watching some show last night with
> Frank Lutz, interviewing (spinning so hard it made me dizzy) some
> Democratic voters. Jesus, I know the name of a pollster! And a
> right-winger at that. I know that Kelly Ann Conway person too.
> Another right-winger. I can't think of the names of any left-wing > or even nonpartisan pollsters. What's wrong with this picture?
>
> I am fed up with all this lying.

[Brotherjohn]

1. I saw that too. He was getting the most hostile opinions about Bush...

... from the (admittedly Democrat) voters. Yet he just dismissed them as the most liberal people in a liberal state. He said they reflected perhaps the 20% most-left-leaning members of the Democratic Party.

Oh, the spin! Even if they were Caucus voters, and active, card-carrying members of the Democratic Party, he is fooling himself if he thinks that makes them some lunatic fringe.

Their opinions were more reflective of mainstream America than those of Frank Luntz, whether Frank Luntz wants to believe it or not.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

5. NYTimes last week published an incredible number

37% feel that shrub was not legitimately elected 37%!!! that's a nice base to work from.
The resentment of shrub is deep and wide. :)

[CMT]

2. I hated it when he hosted the focus groups after the debates

in 2000 and never once had a group that thought Gore did well. Yet Gore won the election. Why do they use such a biased pollster? probably becuz they are a biased (GE) network.

[DemLikr]

3. yeah, he's really disgusting and a liar liar pants on fire to boot

I was glad the makeup person smothered him in excessively orange pancake makeup last night before he went on camera...and it STOPPED right at the chin line. He looked like a overripe orange with exzema stuck on the end of a really big bean sprout.

I kept theinking, "oh yeah, this guy was a major nerd in school."

[Bluzmann57]

4. Saw this Luntz guy last night

on MSNBC and I would like to thank him for telling me, an Iowan, how I am supposed to think and act. He also said that we are "geographically isolated" Hmmm, I guess since I live three hours from Chicago, since the Quad-Cities area(my home)is fairly well known, since there are a few world renowned universities here in our state, since a couple of well known manufacturers who have chosen Iowa as home base, I guess we are still geographically isolated. Hey Luntz, I don't know anything about farming, except that I like to eat. I'm damn proud to live here in Iowa and I have a mind of my own. We are perfectly capable of forming our own opinions, and frequently travel to the "big city". And obviously, we have internet access and cable or satelite TV. Sorry about the rant, but guys like that annoy me greatly. A proud and independent thinking Iowan.

[Brotherjohn]

6. The fact that repubs are lamenting the "Hate Factor" is a sign...

... that they're scared.

They can dish it out, but OH, how thin skinned they are! Now that Bush is finally receiving some legitimate criticism on ISSUES, they have to cast it as some emerging "hate" thing.

Well, of course, many people do not LIKE Bush. But it is simply because they do not LIKE his policies. That is simply because they see that he is wrong on the ISSUES, and we are suffering for it (and in fact many people are DYING).