Sam Nunn??? ABC just reported Nunn being considered Kerry VP candidate

[underpants]

ABC WNT reported that Kerry met with Gephardt (please no) and Vilsack (sorry.......the name) was in DC but would not comment and said reporters should ask Kerrey about his conversations and whom he met with.

Edwards is still seen as the front runner, according to ABC.

The report then stated that ABC had learned from the lead of the VP search Jim Johnson that the VP candidate need IMMEDIATE National Security credentials/name recognition.

Graham
Nunn..............NUNN? Oh brother that could be IT comparable to a McCain choice
William Cohen-not a bad choice
Clark

Wow Nunn????????

[Lefty48197]

1. Next, they'll be saying Zell Miller

they've got nothing better to do.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. I really hope it's not Nunn

I'm not at all comfortable with his corporate ties since leaving the senate...especially those ties with the defense industry

[NewYorkerfromMass]

43. You are correct in that it would validate Nader

It would be a huge play for the South/swing voter, but alienate a lot of leftist/progressives.
Nunn's a great choice if winning is everything, but this might be pushing it a bit far- unless Kerry is making an unabashed run to the center.
I'm for anything that guarantees victory but this choice gives me pause. Damn.

[terrya]

3. This must be Kerry's idea of a joke.

Putting Sam Nunn on the ticket would be the WORST. I can see millions of gay people in shock and dismay if that were to happen.

[underpants]

12. You are going to have to inform me on this

Sorry, I don't know what that means. I'm guessing Nunn was very anti-gay.......???????

[terrya]

26. Sam Nunn is the reason for "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

When Sam Nunn was in the Senate and chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and after President Clinton re-affirmed his campaign pledge to lift the ban on gays and lesbians serving in the military, it was Nunn who sqwalked the loudest. Nunn chaired hearings on lifting the ban...replete with a heavily pronounced tilt towards keeping the ban intact. I have very long memories of that shameful time...and not very good ones of Mr. Nunn.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

45. Allen Schindler's murder brought it to a critical state

Something had to be done. Nunn just had the wrong solution.

http://www.davidclemens.com/gaymilitary/schindler.htm

[NMDemDist2]

4. Kerrey is Bob, Kerry is John, our candidate eom

[underpants]

6. D'oh!

I haven't made that mistake in a long time.

[NMDemDist2]

27. i still love ya UP

:hug:

[vetwife]

44. Nunn is not running..I am from Georgia and know Nunn

Tweety said last night..down to three
1. Edwards
2. Gephardt
3. Clark


Nunn had the opportunity to run with Gore and Gore wanted him too and referred to Lieberman to a Northnern Nunn at a meeting we were with him at. Nunn is very moderate and a very good friend of Clinton's. But he is not Zell Miller. I assure you of that. He is also buddy's with Jimmy Carter. Nunn would bring in the southern vote but so would Edwards and I am saying I think Edwards has the slot but Nunn is not going to run. Nunn has definately got his hands full with the anti terror position he has and wouldn't even serve on the 9-11 commission. Now who would have been good on that spot when MAx had to leave? Nunn got out of public life Period with no intentions of going back.

[EndElectoral]

5. How about John Glenn? Too old?

[terrya]

8. Fritz Hollings is available.

This Sam Nunn trial balloon is idiotic, to say the least.

[stevedeshazer]

7. Brilliant choice

Why not?

Nowhere near McCain.

on edit: okay, sarcastic

[MikeG]

9. Nooooo!! He's too conservative.

And he has a DUI in his past.

[sister_rosa_refried]

10. Not SAM NUNN ....

they said "Some Nun".

That would be me, dear.

I will proudly except the nomination.

I have to run, dear. Gotta press my best habbit for my meeting with the Senator.

[stevedeshazer]

18. LOL!!

There ya go.

[ronnykmarshall]

19. Not too much starch, Sister!

[FlashHarry]

11. I heard he's being heavily vetted as we speak.

That's not a good sign. He has no name recognition. Edwards is the man, hands down. He's young, vital and a first-class orator--all the things Kerry isn't. Plus, he's from the South, which will help offset Kerry's "East Coast Liberal" label. His "Two Americas" message resonates with everyone who's ever heard it.

Edwards will be the man. Mark my words.

[MikeG]

14. Everyone repeat, Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI.

Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI. Nunn. DUI.

[underpants]

20. Uh .........Bush DUI..........?

I'm just saying.

[MikeG]

23. That broke three days before the election.

They were stuck with him. This is a choice. It's different.

[terrya]

15. Sam Nunn brings NOTHING to the ticket.

Liberals would hate it, he doesn't bring Republicans or Independents to the ticket.

This makes no sense whatsoever.

I think it's Edwards, also.

[underpants]

16. He is definitely my wife's choice

Edwards that is. Nunn is from Georgia....... :shrug:

[doni_georgia]

22. I hope it's Edwards, but Nunn would poll strong in the south too

[supernova]

13. Sam Nunn

Isn't he old as the hills by now? He's as big a hawk as Cheney.

No. Not good at all.

[doni_georgia]

28. Actually here lately he's been working on reducing nukes

He's chairman of the Nuclear Threat Initiative that works to reduce threat from nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. He's a moderate populist according to his voting record. He's 65 years old -five years older than Kerry - not unreasonable.

[underpants]

30. He was "on it" from the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union

Almost no attention was paid to the immediate effort to secure (or try to) nukes and nuclear material in the former Soviet Union. He and another Senator (name?) jumped right on it. Very very important.

[AndyTiedye]

34. No Nunn for VP

He isn't popular, he isn't much of a speaker.
He can't deliver even his home state for us
(especially with Diebold counting the votes statewide).
What good is he to the ticket?

Appoint him special envoy for arms reduction, since he seems to be into that.

[mike1963]

33. I thought that too but he isn't really ancient...66 here's a bio

http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=N000171

[ronnykmarshall]

17. It's just smoke being blown

I really think it's going to be Edwards.

Hey, it keeps Kerry in news.

[progressivebydesign]

21. Uh.. way to energize those young voters!!

Who is advising Kerry? It's been widely reported that the younger voters are the important swing voters this year.. actually.. just getting them to the polls would be great. Think you're going to kick ass with another old white guy in a suit? Clinton and Gore won because they were exciting, optimistic, and youthful. America needs hope and optimism.. not more guys in ties. UGH!!! Edwards is a great choice.. and I know there must be a few more out there that actually have some sex-appeal and youthful vibe. The presidentical elections are all popularity and beauty contests.. sad, but true.

[ACK]

24. Nunn the worthless bastard that backstabbed Clinton

I hope the hell not.

He has only two real choices.

Pick Edwards or Clark.

_

[Cheswick2.0]

25. another bone for the DLC/hawks of the party

They must be putting tremendous pressure on Kerry. Don't you know the DLC (as it exists now) wants it own piece of the world domination/war for profit pie?

[KT2000]

29. No..no..no..no..no....not Nunn

I hope he stays away from all who come from Congress except possibly Edwards. Two on the ticket is too much.

[0007]

31. No way that's gonna happen

I'll make book on John Edwards.

[senseandsensibility]

32. OMG!

This is a joke, right?}( A none funny one? Seriously, what is the upside? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!Good God, does anyone have any contacts in the Kerry campaign? Do we need to start an e-mail blitz? Let's not take this lying down.

[MarkTwain]

35. Oh. Jesus H. Christ....

... with monkeys flying out of his ass.

No. No. No.

[FlaGranny]

36. Kerry will not

be able to talk to ANYONE without rumors developing, until he actually picks a VP.

[welshTerrier2]

37. bragging rights

Nunn was one of my two "guesses" back on March 6 of this year in a thread that asked for our top VP picks ...

don't get me wrong, i never liked Nunn's conservative views ... but if all you care about is winning, try this on for size:

source: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=438241#440407 (post #30)

2. sam nunn - if we're going to give the south a try, i think nunn's extensive defense credentials make him a very strong choice ... i don't believe Edwards made a strong enough showing in the south to be convincing ... and while i have great respect for bob graham who could help win Florida, i see him as an "all our eggs in one basket" candidate ... nunn would combine strength on the defense issue, previous washington experience and still retain an outsider image since he's been out of the senate for some time now ... i also think democrats in georgia are just itching to get even with the republicans after what they did to Cleland ... how cool would it be if we really could win in the south ...


btw, my first choice back then was Vilsack ...

[BattyDem]

38. Kerry's really starting to piss me off!

First he "favors" a Repug (McCain) as a running mate, now he "favors" a conservative Dem who may as well be a Repug. I know this may be just another "trial balloon" to keep Kerry's name in the news, but if this happens, I'm done. I won't vote at all. And yes, I know the drill ... "If you don't vote for Kerry, it's as if you're voting for Bush." Well, I'm tired of the Democratic party kicking me in the ass in favor of the "conservative" vote. The conservatives have a party ... and the White House, and the Congress and the Supreme Court - when the hell do the rest of us get some representation? :grr:

A choice like Nunn will prove once and for all that Kerry, the DNC and the DLC don't care about middle-class, moderate to liberal Dems anymore than the Repugs do. No gay rights group will support Kerry with Nunn on the ticket, so kiss those votes goodbye ... and I can't imagine the "Hollywood elite" supporting Kerry if he picks someone like Nunn as VP, so kiss all that support goodbye, too! :mad:

There are lots of intelligent, popular, MODERATE Dems that can be an asset to the '04 ticket - Kerry better pick one of them! I am so fed up with these so-called "Democrats" who are constantly trying to appeal to the conservatives. F*ck 'em! The rich conservatives don't give a damn about average, working-class Americans and the poor conservatives are too stupid to realize that they are being screwed by conservative policies! :eyes:

I know I'm ranting ... sorry about that, but I'm really ticked off! If I've fallen victim to just another meaningless "trial balloon," then so be it. It's better to be ridiculed for getting worked up over nothing, than to be ashamed for staying silent over "something"


edited ... typo

[Bluebear]

39. Anti-gay Nunn? That will stop a lot of hopeful hearts from campaigning

nt

[Gloria]

40. If the Kerry campaign is leaking this stuff, then it has jumped the shark.

this has become too cute for words, and is just as bad as what Kerry was so offended by last time in 2000...

I'm totally sick of all this crap...it is no longer energizing, but has now become very annoying.

Get with the damned program. Name someone and start fighting...

From the McCain stuff, to the trial balloon about not accepting at the convention.....this crap won't make up for an amorphous last few months.
Get it together, this is a fight, not some little exercise in fooling people who want to go out and cripple Bush once and for all....

[Cat Atomic]

41. This better be a baseless rumor.

If Kerry picks Nunn, I'm voting Green. I'm sorry, but that would just be a big finger to the base of the Democratic party. It's like picking Zell Miller.

Seriously- what the fuck is wrong with this party that the candidates won't go after the liberal vote- even NOW. The Republicans have completely discredited themselves and energized the Democratic base.

If Democrats ever want to do anymore than talk about a real liberal platform, this is the time to do it. I don't really think they WANT to move the middle class's agenda forward. I suspect they just want to keep playing good guy/bad guy, divide and conquer politics. It's profitable.

[surfermaw]

42. From an old Georgia Native...hope not

He could become another Zell Miller.

[salin]

46. Hope not... unless Nunn were to suddenly declare that he had been

taken in by the Neocons ... and now recognizes the flaws in their policy thinking, and their deceptive practices used to propogandize the public.

Nunn has become too closely linked to the PNAC and Defense Policy Board folks.