Ron Reagan with Judy Woodruff.

[maveric]

Judy is trying to get Ron to say something positive about bu$h but he aint doin it.

Judy: "Some say that GWB modeled himself to your father."

Ron: "My father never gave GWB a thought"

Judy:"Would you ever consider being a republican?"

Ron: "No way I'd join a party that allows racists as members."

It was great. Judy was trying to bait him and Ron kept his ground.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

1. He was milder than previous interviews, when he likened Bush to a Turd

"...The big elephant sitting in the corner is that George W. Bush is simply unqualified for the job... What's his accomplishment? That he's no longer an obnoxious drunk?... - Ron Reagan, RNC Convention, 2000

"...The Bush people have no right to speak for my father, particularly because of the position he's in now. Yes, some of the current policies are an extension of the '80s. But the overall thrust of this administration is not my father's -- these people are overly reaching, overly aggressive, overly secretive, and just plain corrupt. I don't trust these people. He didn't have to ask Dick Cheney what he thought... My father was a man -- that's the difference between him and Bush. To paraphrase Jack Palance, my father crapped bigger ones than George Bush." - Ron Reagan, Salon Interview, 2003

[obnoxiousdrunk]

12. That's where I got

my ID from.

"...The big elephant sitting in the corner is that George W. Bush is simply unqualified for the job... What's his accomplishment? That he's no longer an obnoxious drunk?... - Ron Reagan, RNC Convention, 2000

[Fenris]

2. Shit. Did I miss this?

[patdem]

3. We should now call Ron Ronald Reagan...it looks so REIGHT!

Ron Reagan can now legally be called Ronald Reagan because SR has died and JR is no longer operative!!!

Ronald Reagan will NOT vote for George Bush!!! I love the sound of that!!!

[Mistress Quickly]

5. He's not a JR

They had different middle names

[OKNancy]

4. He said more than just racists!

He said Republicans are the party of racists, homophobes and ignorance. I have to say, of all the interviews he was even more anti-Bush in this one.

Judy said that Jerry Fawell said that Ronald W. Reagan was George W's mentor....Ron P said , that's not true. He didn't even know George W.

[Gin]

7. he also said...the party is pandering to the most ignorant in our society

I thought that was pretty good...

[WI_DEM]

6. I gotta hand it to Ron and Nancy

their children are free thinkers--they turned out better than his kids with Jane Wyman.

[markdd]

8. KidS?

I thought that Maureen was the only child that Ron & Jane had. I thought that Michael was adopted, but I don't know during which marriage.

[Maat]

10. Excuse me, Markdd.

I know that you didn't mean it. But I "have" my daughter, she is adopted, and she is "my daughter," not my "adopted daughter," in the truest sense of the word. The fact that Michael was adopted in no way means that he is any less Reagan's son. Michael is ... the eldest son. My daughter was "reborn" to me and my husband.

I do not mean to offend my DU friends, but I would appreciate if people would quit referring to Michael's adoption. Just refer to Michael the Son, please.

[markdd]

15. Apologies offered

You are correct, the tone was not appropriately sensitive.

Unfortunately, ..eledest son.. still does not help me understand which couple he came to, Jane & Ron or Nancy & Ron.

[Bunny]

22. Jane and Ron. n/t

[Maat]

39. Thanks, Markdd.

I shouldn't have yapped. But when my friends take note, as you did, it makes me feel better.

[stopbush]

26. Maureen & Michael - Born when RR was a Dem, they're raving R's!

Ron & Patti - born when RR switches to R, they're raving liberals!

Talk about running away from your father's political beliefs.

[JI7]

38. actually, Maureen was pretty moderate, she was prochoice and

supporting government funding for many things to help people. she certainly wasn't right wing.her dad didn't even support her the first time she ran for elected office. he did the next time she did but she lost.

[kskiska]

33. Jane and Ronnie also had a second daughter

named Christine who lived for only a day. Then they adopted Michael.

[Zinfandel]

36. Maureen & the idiot Michael' mother is Jane Wyman... And Patti

and Ron jr. mother is Nancy... Correct?

[TexasSissy]

9. Wow. I had no idea he had such strong views. And he's

voicing them more and more often now, and getting stronger with each interview.

I wonder if, besides other political issues, he's really ticked at the administration for now allowing stem cell research several years ago, like his mother wanted.

But....wow. I always liked him, though, no matter what his politics. He seems to have inherited his father's good nature and optimistic outlook (yes, that's right....I liked RR, the Prez, on a personal level; I just think his policies were wrong).

[LuminousX]

11. Don't worry

I share your admiration of Reagan. I blame mine on the fact he was the first real President I knew (born under Ford, didn't become politically aware until Carter v Reagan).

[Still_Loves_John]

13. I don't see anything wrong with those questions

I don't understand the vendetta against Judy Woodruff among some people here. No matter what she says someone gets pissed.

[tom_paine]

18. She is a Bushevik Bootlciker, a Fellator of Tyrants

She is one of the most slanted, journalistically lazy, inept of ALL the Media Whores.

Her ineptitude is staggering, but the fact that she shamelessly and DIRECTY WHORES for the Imperial family DAILY, including LIES LIES LIES all the time.

Stick around. It wasn't long ago she got busted for 2 Orwellian Bushevik Lies (I can't remember what they were, but people here researched it in minutes).

Stick around. She'll do iut again.

If you can stand to wtach the putrescent and wretched remnants of the Formely Free Press do their Soviet TV Pravda thing on behalf of the Imperial Family Bush*, go ahead and watch with your newfound knowledge.

The obvious will become apparent after a short time.

Judy Woodruff is a disgrace to the profession, to which she doesn;t even really belong.

[Still_Loves_John]

25. umm..alright

But that doesn't say what was wrong with these specific questions. Every once in a while someone posts a legitmate complaint about Judy, but lots of time its completely random stuff like this that they convince themselves is somehow biased. It weakens any legitimate argument against her when people post about how everything she says is biased.

[tom_paine]

27. Disagree. Most of the complaints about Woredruff are quite legitimate

This is not completely random stuff either.

Judy is Whoring for her Emperor by trying to connect (and get RR Jr. to do so) Raygun and Bunnypants*.

Isn't that funny how this line of questioning seems to mirror the RNC spin on Raygun's Death perfectly?

This happens frequently and is the major source of these "random" complaints.

What it comes down to is this: In virtually EVERY ONE of her broadcasts, Jusy repeats RNC Talking Points verbatim, often failing to do even a basic fact-check on them. Once she says it, to people like you it must then be "true".

Mission accomplished.

If she isn't repeating RNC Spin Points and Fabrications verbatim with no fact-checking, then she is belittling or even directly insulting Democrats, quite openly.

Mission accomplished.

As I said, go watch Judy Whoredruff now that you know. If you can stomach that for an hour.

Even IF she wasn't as Partisan as Tucker Carlson (which is is, if not more in favor of her Imperial Masters), her jounralistic skills are simply non-existant.

I thik she likes it better that way as it's easier to Whore for the Imperials with a "clear conscience" if you just don't know, gosh darn it.

I believe that answers you specific questions. Now go watch Whoredruff. She is egregiously bad.

[Still_Loves_John]

29. Well, that seems to be the line CNN usually takes

"Isn't that funny how this line of questioning seems to mirror the RNC spin on Raygun's Death perfectly?"

Usually, when CNN anchors question people on either side, they present the opposition talking point and let the interviewee dispel them.

I find it hard to believe that Judy Woodruff expected that these questions would get Ron Reagan to say something good about Bush, his politics are well known. What they do allow him to do is refute the other side's argument. She didn't follow up these questions, pressing him to say something good about George Bush, they are essentially softballs.

[tom_paine]

30. UNTRUE! They DO NOT do so for Democratic Talking Points

Perhaps occasionally, but Whoredruff has much more than that to her resume of aiding Imperials Tyranny.

Many times she will insult the Democrats' clothes or other minutiae.

She NEVER does this for Repigs. NEVER.

Still more.

Go watch. Enough talk. You will either see or remain as you are.

Go watch her.

[Still_Loves_John]

31. Ah, I think I said that badly

and you misunderstood. What I'm saying is that if they're questioning a Democrat, they bring up Republican arguments, and if they're questioning a Republican, they bring up Democratic arguments. They always do it weakly and allow whoever they are questioning to brush away the argument. That is their style.

And I still challenge you to explain what was biased about the specific comments over which this thread was started.

[tom_paine]

37. I understood that's what you said

And if they do that, it is MUCH more low-key. But I believe they don't even do that much.

But, as with the Orwellian disparity in coverage between the alleged Condit murder vs the alleged Scarborough murder (both were in the House at the time), they generally don't even do that much.

check this out:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Lori+Klausutis%22

Funny how no one knows about this and EVERYONE knows about Condit.

There are hundreds of examples like this.

And I believe I explained the comments above.

One of the primary Bushevik startegies is to exploit the Death of Raygun by linking him to the Emperor*. Repetition, the Busheviks have taught, can spin lies into "conventional wisdom" as easily as they did in 1933.

Here's a Goebbels quote:

"Propaganda…must always be essentially simple and repetitious. In the long run, only he will achieve basic results in influencing public opinion who is able to reduce problems to the simplest terms and who has the courage to keep forever repeating them in this simplified form despite the objections of the intellectuals."
- Joseph Goebbels’ diary, 1/29/42

Still works just the same now as it did then, I am sorry to say. And Whoredruff was just repeating the script not to mention try to get RR, Jr. to repeat it with her.

Do I think Whordruff was issued orders, then sat down and plotted it out just so? No, life is much more subtle than that.

I don;t know how much more I can elaborate. Do you get it now?

[keithyboy]

14. Is Ron a democrat?

How much does he hate GWBush? Why? Will he fess up to the truth about his father's policies? Is he about to write a book?

[napi21]

16. He very emphatically says he's an Independent! n/t

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

32. he backed nader in 2000, seems to be going for kerry this time around

so whatever that makes him

i wish he'd follow in his father's footsteps and run for office. he's very good on tv and handles himself very well in a debate

[narcjen]

17. I heard Ron Reagan is gay

is that true? Just curious.

[tom_paine]

19. Well, he's married with kids

Which doesn't necessarily preclude gayness.

I think the gayness rap comes from the days he was a ballet dancer.

News Flash: Not all male ballet dancers are gay.

(not that there's anything wrong with that)

[Bunny]

23. No kids. Three cats. n/t

[kskiska]

34. Non-gay ballet dancers

George Balanchine
Igor Youskevitch
Edward Villella
Paul Mejia was so non-gay he lost his job when he
married Suzanne Farrell out from under Balanchine's nose.
Robert Weiss
Mikhail Baryshnikov
Kent Stowell
Jacques d'Amboise
Chris d'Amboise

Other dancers:
Gene Kelly
Fred Astaire

[PDittie]

20. He's been married for many years

I realize this doesn't necessarily refute the contention, but MO is that he is not gay.

[David Zephyr]

35. He's Not Gay.

Who did you "hear" it from?

[Jacobin]

21. Did her head fall down through the wrinkles in her neck?

I'm waiting for that to happen.
:-)

[Catherine Vincent]

24. I am really starting to love Ron Reagan!

And even when he was criticizing big dog back in the day, he wasn't mean spirited like the republicans.

[joanski01]

28. Ron Reagan really impressed

me in that interview with Judy. When she asked him why he wasn't a republican, he said he could never belong to a party of homophobes, racists, and bigots.

When she asked him about stem cell research, he said the Republican Party was pandering to the most ignorant segment of society to get votes.

Ron said his father didn't know George W. Bush, except that he was the son of his Vice President. Ron said he, himself, doesn't know GWB.

[goforit]

40. Way to go Ronny!!!......Let the right wing thugs have it!