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ringmastery
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:27 PM Original message |
This is pretty cool, but will give more ammo to anti-abortion people |
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cocoabeach
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. Zygot isn't supposed to look like that! |
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Fleshdancer
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. That's because everyone knows a zygote isn't a 12 week old fetus |
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jdj
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. yeah, it's called a homunculus (or something) and if you |
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
64. sure they smile, but it's always that jerky, nervous kind of wave. |
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. Did you know? |
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cocoabeach
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Do they still a have heartbeat? This tissue mass does |
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Scairp
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Still doesn' t prove sentience |
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cocoabeach
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. And a newborn baby does? |
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jdj
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. You mutilated your child? Shame on you! |
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Pachamama
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
43. If my Mother had a living will and wished to die, yes, I would honor her |
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It doesn't matter |
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Right on.... |
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Branjor
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Mon Jun-28-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. She can use whatever she wants for birth control..... |
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Lindacooks
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Guess what? |
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Forkboy
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. "It's none of your cheney business." |
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smirkymonkey
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
157. Oooo! That is priceless! |
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Nederland
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
160. Begging the question |
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Timefortruth
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. If I am 25 year old WalMart clerk with cancer |
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smirkymonkey
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
158. That was put beautifully |
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Selwynn
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Tue Jun-29-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
186. Fan-fucking-tastic! |
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GoneOffShore
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. If you don't like abortion |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. So can ANY woman say who should have access to |
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GoneOffShore
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Too many men make the laws |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. It was mostly sarcasm |
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jdj
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. maybe we need to establish a law that says that every male |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. The male "pill" |
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jdj
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #56 |
73. Moralizing from the right is a symptom of a hoped |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. I'm just not personally a big fan of abortion |
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jdj
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:05 AM Response to Reply #78 |
94. I haven't, but Nataline Angier, the biologist who wrote |
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Mr. Blonde
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:30 AM Response to Reply #94 |
110. I agree that this issue |
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jdj
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:35 AM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Gay marriage. |
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Mr. Blonde
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:40 AM Response to Reply #113 |
115. ha ha |
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Djinn
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
79. scenario |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Is it different |
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belle
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:14 AM Response to Reply #56 |
120. Well, hey, there's always mass castration. |
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Cheswick2.0
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #120 |
168. fabulous idea |
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nickgutierrez
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:57 AM Response to Reply #49 |
129. The Vonnegut approach |
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belle
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:13 AM Response to Reply #32 |
119. Cross your own damn legs. |
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Djinn
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. who says ANYONE uses it for birth control |
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spotbird
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. How about keeping your prick in your pants? |
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
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absolutezero
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
66. ok |
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Delano
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
71. Welcome to DU... |
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kiahzero
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Tue Jun-29-04 02:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
130. Can you say "Straw man?" |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. You don't have a too good an opinion of |
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Cheswick2.0
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Mon Jun-28-04 09:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. you might not like the word |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Well |
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merh
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. If men had to carry a child and give birth this debate would not |
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Yupster
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
121. What a sexist piece of crap |
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Cheswick2.0
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. another person with a penis weighs in |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Restraint from both parties |
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Cheswick2.0
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. I said |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:09 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. So in essence it isn't half the male's child |
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jdj
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. It? |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Well, he/she has kind of a negative connotation as well right? |
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merh
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
68. Well let's think about that, since the male is not carrying it, |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. So to continue on that |
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merh
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:17 AM Response to Reply #70 |
100. Physically it becomes an independent living being. |
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Mr. Blonde
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:23 AM Response to Reply #100 |
104. Does this mean that I can still take the moral high road and |
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merh
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:39 AM Response to Reply #104 |
114. I never believed that blondes were as dense as they say, but |
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Mr. Blonde
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:49 AM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Uh oh, and I'm not even a blonde |
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merh
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:23 AM Response to Reply #116 |
126. Your name on this forum is "Mr. Blonde" thus the blonde reference |
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belle
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:21 AM Response to Reply #104 |
125. Do whatever the hell you want. It's still up to her. But may I suggest.. |
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jdj
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:24 AM Response to Reply #100 |
105. Where I come from women tell men |
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merh
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:27 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. LOL - that is a good one - I have to remember that. |
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Djinn
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:04 AM Response to Reply #100 |
117. I agree with you but |
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Tue Jun-29-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #100 |
177. Got A Link? |
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belle
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:20 AM Response to Reply #48 |
124. Correct. It isn't. |
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Cheswick2.0
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
165. Get pregnant and get back to me |
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Yupster
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #45 |
122. And when the woman gets pregnant and |
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Cheswick2.0
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #122 |
171. stop screwing women you are not married to and who has not |
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Yupster
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Tue Jun-29-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #171 |
189. I'm an old married guy |
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jdj
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. one rape every six seconds. |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. On the side that |
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jdj
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
75. you've lost me. |
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Mr. Blonde
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. I can't remember where |
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Djinn
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:03 AM Response to Reply #82 |
92. You're WAY out on rape |
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jdj
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:08 AM Response to Reply #92 |
96. That gave me chills. |
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Mr. Blonde
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:15 AM Response to Reply #92 |
99. If someone is to the point of being willing to rape |
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jdj
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:21 AM Response to Reply #99 |
103. I don't understand how a man can maintain an erection |
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Mr. Blonde
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:28 AM Response to Reply #103 |
109. In any case rape is |
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belle
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:18 AM Response to Reply #37 |
123. See William Reich: "The Mass Psychology of Fascism," for a start. |
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Delano
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
84. Men have every bit as much right to weigh in in their opinions on abortion |
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spotbird
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:59 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. The truth is that when she went into labor |
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Delano
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:10 AM Response to Reply #89 |
97. She chose to get pregnant and have the baby. |
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Cheswick2.0
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Tue Jun-29-04 08:29 AM Response to Reply #97 |
139. " The risk to her life was minimal" |
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spotbird
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Tue Jun-29-04 09:35 AM Response to Reply #97 |
151. No, but I've known people who have died after childbirth |
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Yupster
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:28 AM Response to Reply #84 |
127. I'm pro-choice too, but |
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Cheswick2.0
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Tue Jun-29-04 08:31 AM Response to Reply #127 |
140. I think it sucks that women must be the ones to get pregnant |
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Tue Jun-29-04 09:20 AM Response to Reply #140 |
149. Today that's true enough |
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Delano
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #127 |
153. Good point. |
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Cheswick2.0
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Tue Jun-29-04 08:27 AM Response to Reply #84 |
138. no they don't |
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Delano
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #138 |
152. No. |
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Yupster
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #152 |
161. If you're a man |
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Delano
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. OOOH! Even I wouldn't go there... |
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #162 |
167. This whole thread is full of sexism |
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:50 PM Response to Reply #167 |
174. poor victim |
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #161 |
173. waaaaaaaaaaa |
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LanternWaste
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Odd use of terms, though... |
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Cheswick2.0
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. a lot of emotional garbage don't you think? |
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LanternWaste
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Terribly Sorry for being Silly.... Humblest Apologies.... |
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Cheswick2.0
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. oh nonsense |
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LanternWaste
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. If the word is valid... |
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jdj
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
88. I'm not crazy about that word used in this context, more accurately |
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LanternWaste
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:06 AM Response to Reply #88 |
95. I think I can assume we both think... |
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
74. Do you have an interest in innocent life that is born? |
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LanternWaste
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:01 AM Response to Reply #74 |
91. Hmmm... |
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Roaming
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Tue Jun-29-04 09:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
143. That is a silly argument to me; an intruder means to do a person |
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Tue Jun-29-04 09:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
147. I've always been pro-Choice |
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Mon Jun-28-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. lots of things have heart beats |
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. Need a brain for that |
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Fleshdancer
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
112. and this tissue mass is NOT a zygote |
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Timefortruth
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
14. The second scan is not of a 12 week old fetus. |
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More Than A Feeling
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
17. Whenever I hear about abortion... |
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Were you? |
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Cheswick2.0
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. LOL |
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Maybe not in this life. How about if you were to be born in |
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spotbird
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
80. There is something very disturbing about people who are |
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Djinn
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. sigh |
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kikiek
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Far from it. |
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jdj
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, I, I, I. |
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More Than A Feeling
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. well, since you brought it up |
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Djinn
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. and you wont be getting pregnant |
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More Than A Feeling
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:38 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Can't imagine that I will. |
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Djinn
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
87. while I don't beleive |
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jdj
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
77. Do you mean "I plan to adopt"? |
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More Than A Feeling
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Yes that is what I meant |
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jdj
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:10 AM Response to Reply #83 |
98. Good for you. Better you spend your time preaching |
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Tue Jun-29-04 09:09 AM Response to Reply #98 |
144. Actually, I think most people who are pro-life are also pro-adoption. |
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spotbird
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. The answer is misogyny |
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More Than A Feeling
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:34 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Er, ok... |
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spotbird
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:53 PM Response to Reply #63 |
86. No, not at all. |
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smirkymonkey
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
172. Ding, Ding, Ding... |
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Fleshdancer
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
81. exactly |
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PA Democrat
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Tue Jun-29-04 09:12 AM Response to Reply #40 |
145. Yeah, but those kids are the wrong color, have disabilities |
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Cheswick2.0
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. then I will assume that when you get pregnant you will not have an |
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kiahzero
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Tue Jun-29-04 02:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
132. If you were aborted, there wouldn't be a "you." |
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kikiek
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
24. You should update your message to clarify the age difference. |
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lolly
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Mon Jun-28-04 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
25. FWIW |
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JohnLocke
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
67. I'm fine with banning abortions in the 3rd trimester. |
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Delano
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:20 AM Response to Reply #67 |
102. Me too, with the exception... |
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Pachamama
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:25 AM Response to Reply #67 |
106. Abortion is illegal in the 3rd Trimester....The only reason any procedure |
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JohnLocke
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Tue Jun-29-04 08:15 AM Response to Reply #106 |
135. Yes, of course there are exceptions. |
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Cheswick2.0
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Tue Jun-29-04 08:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
136. abortions should not be done before 8 weeks |
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lolly
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Tue Jun-29-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #136 |
183. Not according to the CDC |
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Pachamama
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
51. FYI - This technology isn't new - Siemens and others have been selling |
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Djinn
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. something I learnt after working in PR |
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jdj
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Thanks for posting this. |
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Djinn
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
76. Often it's because |
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
72. Show "Toxic Sludge Is Good For You" was all about that. |
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merh
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:01 AM Response to Reply #51 |
90. The article was on Drudges web site today. |
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kikiek
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:03 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. I was wondering about the wisdom of this post to be honest. |
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Pachamama
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:18 AM Response to Reply #93 |
101. Should have known it was on the Sludge Report... |
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kikiek
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:26 AM Response to Reply #101 |
107. Yeah need to ignore the attempts. They get the most responses too. |
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jdj
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:33 AM Response to Reply #93 |
111. I guess I should confess. I was getting bored what with all the |
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:10 AM Response to Reply #111 |
118. I'll second the confession |
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Roaming
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Tue Jun-29-04 09:20 AM Response to Reply #93 |
148. A few days ago there was a really contentious one up, here is |
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Wed Jun-30-04 06:01 PM Response to Reply #148 |
192. His posts usually are |
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Kimber Scott
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
55. Pretty exciting stuff! Can you imagine when you get your first |
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kikiek
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Mon Jun-28-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Right on. |
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fortyfeetunder
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
128. Confirms what I thought |
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AwakeAtLast
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Tue Jun-29-04 02:07 AM Response to Reply #128 |
131. So I'm not the only one? |
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Yupster
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Tue Jun-29-04 02:19 AM Response to Reply #128 |
133. Each of our ultrasounds showed |
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AwakeAtLast
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Tue Jun-29-04 02:22 AM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Ours showed |
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ArkDem
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Tue Jun-29-04 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
137. Pretty neat looking tissue!! |
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thinkingwoman
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Tue Jun-29-04 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
141. "walking" implies "standing" and "moving" |
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Cheswick2.0
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #141 |
164. yes we seem to have a lot of fetal fetishists here today |
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booksenkatz
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Tue Jun-29-04 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
142. I dunno, I kinda prefer the mystery |
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Roaming
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Tue Jun-29-04 09:13 AM Response to Reply #142 |
146. Ultrasounds are awesome; maybe someday they'll be cheap |
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Delano
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #146 |
154. When I was in Japan... |
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Tue Jun-29-04 09:24 AM Response to Reply #142 |
150. Ours was amazing because |
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
155. Abortions legal in England for the first ? mo.s of the pregnancy? |
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Killarney
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
156. Ultrasounds are amazing |
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Cheswick2.0
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #156 |
163. abortion used as a form of birth control? |
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Yupster
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #163 |
169. There was an HBO special that followed some hookers |
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Cheswick2.0
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. bullshit |
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redqueen
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Tue Jun-29-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #169 |
179. Ignoring the reality of this situation makes Democrats look |
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Killarney
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Tue Jun-29-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #163 |
176. what I mean |
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West Coast Democrat
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Tue Jun-29-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #156 |
184. There is no ultrasound that looks anything like these photos |
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Nederland
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Tue Jun-29-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #184 |
188. Those photographs ARE ultrasounds (nt) |
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MissAnnThrope
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Tue Jun-29-04 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
159. ummmm.......... |
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West Coast Democrat
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
166. Sorry. I don't buy it. |
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Killarney
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Tue Jun-29-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #166 |
178. Hahaha |
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redqueen
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Tue Jun-29-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. I don't know how you can laugh |
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Killarney
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Tue Jun-29-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. Um |
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West Coast Democrat
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Tue Jun-29-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #178 |
182. They look photoshopped |
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Tue Jun-29-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #182 |
185. They are real. |
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Wed Jun-30-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #178 |
190. they're real BUT |
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mrgorth
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Tue Jun-29-04 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
175. Sorry ya'll |
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Wed Jun-30-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #175 |
191. so in that case |
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Selwynn
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Tue Jun-29-04 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
187. If men gave birth, there wouldn't be 500 fucking posts on this thread... |
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Wed Jun-30-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #187 |
194. Go Selwynn Go Selwynn!! |
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Colin Ex
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Wed Jun-30-04 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
193. The brain-eating zombies are coming! |
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