##@@%**!!!!Just saw CNN's discussion on * and the NAACP!

[senseandsensibility]

DID ANYONE ELSE SEE THIS?

I am still shaking! Apparently * is not addressing the NAACP for the fourth year in a row because they're "mean" to him. Tha mediawhore, Carol Lin, moderated a discussion between two African Americans, and she couldn't have been more in tune with * and his dislike of mean comments.

In shocked tones, she told Joe Madison, the anti-* guy, that "Bush was right" (her exact words), and that the NAACP had said some very mean things about poor little*, such as (gasp!) that he stole the election in 2000. She was very challenging and made it clear that * was right and the NAACP was wrong.

But when it was time to question the pro-* African American woman (and she was VERY pro-*), she asked her if the NAACP had any relevance to the younger generation, in effect doing her work for her.
Really, this is one of worst things I have ever seen on CNN, and I thought I'd seen EVERYTHING.:argh:

Folks, I've seen some suggestions on DU lately that the media's coming around. It is not. And this constant shilling for * is a serious problem.

[still_one]

1. you are right, the media is not coming around

we will have to fight for every inch of this on our own, and after we win there will be no free pass like the whores gave bush

[chicagojoe]

2. After we win this, then we have to "remove" the Bush media whores.

This can be done quite easily.

[prolesunited]

6. How do you figure?

You advocating state-owned media?

[lazarus]

10. Equal Time

Reagan removed it with a signature, surely Kerry can put it back?

Heck, let's make Howard Stern or Michael Moore head of the FCC! :evilgrin:

[Eloriel]

25. NOOOO! The Fairness Doctrine is NOT "equal time"

There was never any provision in the Fairness Doctrine for anything approaching "equal time."

What it DID call for was for both sides of controversial issues to be aired and if that didn't happen, responsible oranizations or individuals could request an opportunity to present the other side. These presentations were never "equal time" or anything close -- more like 30 - 60 second bits played in the wee early morning or after midnight.

But the value of the Fairness Doctrine was that broadcasters didn't like having to deal with the requests -- and the FCC problems if they didn't, including potential loss of their licenses -- so they usually did a fairly decent job of covering both sides.

[lazarus]

37. whatever

"equal time" is, and always has been, a shorthand for "The Fairness Doctrine." No, it's not completely accurate. Big deal.

[Billy Burnett]

21. What about a BBC type of model

Independent, user funded.

[DBoon]

31. Adequately fund PBS/NPR

and isolate them from political pressure

[Lex]

5. One thing I know for sure, Edwards is a scrapper. He will fight for every

little inch they can gain. That's how he got out of that little milltown.

If you saw the 60 Minutes inteview tonight, you probably saw him actually get charged up when a media ho started spewing forth bullshit.

Some politicians back down when the media ho start mischaracterizing, but Edwards actually told Leslie Stahl "That's unfair" in response to one characterization of hers.

And another time, he said "I've already answered that question 10 times, what more do you want?"

Ha.

[shanti]

11. you know

i so want to believe in edwards, but there are little things like this that concern me:


http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040606-103603-4126r.htm

U.S. Sen. John Edwards at Bilderberg



Milan, Italy, Jun. 6 (UPI) -- Among the 100 or so invitees to the annual Bilderberg conference under way Sunday in a northern Italy resort is potential U.S. vice president John Edwards.

Reporters generally are not invited and those who are observe the conference group's general pledge of secrecy, reinforcing the view of conspiracy theorists that the elite gathering is up to no good, London's The Guardian newspaper reported.

Sen. Edwards is regarded in Democratic circles as a good performer in his battle with Sen. John Kerry for the nomination to be presidential candidate and so is expected to be a finalist when Kerry chooses a running mate.

Other invitees are Mrs. Bill Gates and likely are regulars Bill Clinton, Henry Kissinger and U.S. Defense Secretary Don Rumsfeld.

The Bilderberg tradition began in 1954 as a transatlantic post-war sounding board.

[Joe the Revelator]

15. Oh give me a break....

:eyes: :tinfoilhat:

[calico1]

18. I hope you don't depend on the Wash Times

as your news source. It is a very right leaning newspaper, right up there with the NY Post.

[shanti]

34. don't shoot the messenger!

the story is legit regardless of the source. i don't trust the bilderbergers!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

22. And a month later he joins veteran Bilderberg member Kerry as VP.

Maybe it's :tinfoilhat:. Maybe it's not. :shrug:

[sendero]

19. And make no mistake...

.... the public at large does not like the media. They may listen and believe all sorts of bullshit, that does not mean they actually like and trust the talking head whores, far from it.

Edwards knows this and uses it to his advantage. Putting the chattering nabobs of horsepuckey in their place is a very good plan, it *will* play in Peoria.

[lpbk2713]

3. Carol Lin was the newsbabe involved in that Letterman flap

a few weeks ago. The one where the White House allegedly said a news byte used on the Letterman show was doctored and called Dave a liar. And then allegedly it turned out CNN gave out bad info.

[ClassWarrior]

24. Actually, it was Daryn Kagen.

n/t

[otohara]

35. She's Quite Snippy

and rude to guests on a frequent basis. She's yucky

[philosophie_en_rose]

4. News at 11: Media infects thinking people with piratitis. Argh!!!

Why the hell would the NAACP endorse Bush in any way? Why is Bush so damned afraid of facing their challenges and questions, especially since he's allegedly a "compassionate conservative" and not an "oxymoron"? Why isn't the media laughing at Bush for being such an infant?

[Yupster]

9. If you were Bush's advisor

would you advise him to go see the NAACP?

[Swamp Rat]

13. Of course not... wouldn't want to piss off the KKK, fundies, racist

rednecks, the elite, and all the other racists out there that make up GW's base.

[philosophie_en_rose]

17. Yes.

If I were Bush's advisor, I'd advise him to make amends to every group in America - and then step down. If Bush was a real leader, he'd have the courage to actually address the people that disagree with him. Of course, all he can do is mock and condemn.

[ParanoidPat]

7. D5E, Just turn them off and advise others to do the same.....

....from an earlier DU thread. :evilgrin:

D5E: Destruction, Degradation, Denial, Disruption, Deceit, and Exploitation

CONCEPT PAPER


Working Group on Preventive and Preemptive Military Intervention


William W. Keller and Gordon R. Mitchell1
Project Coordinators

<Snip>

U.S. Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, called for an FBI investigation into the forgery of documents cited by President Bush and Secretary Powell as proof of Iraq’s nuclear transactions with Niger. As Rockefeller explained in a letter to FBI Director Robert Mueller: “There is a possibility that the fabrication of these documents may be part of a larger deception campaign aimed at manipulating public opinion and foreign policy regarding Iraq.”26

The timeliness of Rockefeller’s proposed inquiry was underscored by the appearance of official documents that lay out official American deception plans: "In a document last autumn, the joint chiefs of staff stressed the need for strategic deception and influence operations as tools of war. The army, navy and air force have been directed to devise plans for information warfare."27

According to defense analyst William Arkin, the Bush strategy lays out goals for information warfare that pursue D5E: "destruction, degradation, denial, disruption, deceit, and exploitation." Arkin notes that the wide array of sites and ractices of information control brought into the range of this policy "blurs or even erases the boundaries between factual information and news, on the one hand, and public relations, propaganda and psychological warfare on the other."28

This fusion of military deception programs with media propaganda efforts enabled the Office of Strategic Influence to commission officers from the U.S. Army's Psychological Operations Command to work as interns in the news division of CNN.29

Eventually, the Bush Administration was burned by the political heat generated when the Office of Strategic Influence was leaked to the media. The ensuing firestorm of controversy prompted Secretary Rumsfeld to close the propaganda unit. Yet less than a year later, Rumsfeld stipulated that his action had only been symbolic, and that information warfare missions were still underway at other Pentagon offices: And then there was the Office of Strategic Influence. You may recall that.
And “oh my goodness gracious isn't that terrible, Henny Penny the sky is going to fall.” I went down that next day and said fine, if you want to savage this thing, fine, I'll give you the corpse. There's the name. You can have the name, but I'm gonna keep doing every single thing that needs to be done and I have.30

The political implications of blurring military strategic deception and public sphere propaganda are worth exploring, given Arkin's concerns about military deception that "while the policy ostensibly targets foreign enemies, its most likely victim will be the American electorate."31

<More>

Just turn it off! :puke:

[DeepModem Mom]

14. I'm afraid turning it off completely leaves us in a dreamworld...

where we don't realize what we're up against, because we don't see how the "news" is presented to most Americans. But I agree -- as a personal news source, TV media is less than useful, and also raises the blood pressure.

[KoKo]

30. Not really. Just a "peek" now and then is a "reality check" It's awful!

They are the "dreamworld" out here is the reality.

[KissMyAsscroft]

8. Call me crazy....

But I don't understand why the NAACP wants Bush to speak at their event. The NAACP hates Bush, so why should Bush speak at their event?

[KeepItReal]

12. Because he talked the talk and now needs to walk the walk

Bush is just trashing another tradition/precedent/policy. Which he seems to get off on.

Either he doesn't give a damn about history (he did say by the time it is written we'll be dead) or he doesn't give a damn about civil rights organizations.

[Swamp Rat]

16. Both of 'em.

He doesn't give a damn about history nor civil rights.

[Bridget Burke]

20. He addressed the NAACP while campaigning.

But he hasn't bothered with them since.

I can definitely see why his handlers won't let him do it. Somehow, I doubt the entire audience would sit in awestruck silence, interrupted only by the occasional standing ovation. And we know that would upset the little fellow.

Could it be--NAACP membership will not actually be heartbroken by his absence? Could they just be hammering on his refusal because it makes him look small, petty & fragile?

[CBHagman]

23. It shows what a totally spineless git he is.

What does Bush think is going to happen -- a roughing-up by Kweisi Mfume and Julian Bond? He might not be received with warmth, but at least he could bestir himself in some fashion. Heck, he could have even videotaped a message (maybe they discussed that), at least acknowledging the importance of the group.

And then we have people like Juan Williams warning Kerry that African-Americans are going defect to Bush and that 79 percent support levels in that particular community are flimsy. Don't hold your breath, Juan.

[senseandsensibility]

27. I don't know if the NAACP

is really upset because * won't address them . Maybe they're just trying to show * in bad light, which is alright with me. As for *, I think we all know he refuses to speak to any group that isn't hand picked and brain dead. So none of that surprised me. It was Carol Lin's blatant right wing slant, and especially the part where she point blank said that * was right.

[defoliate_bush]

26. What was wrong with that pro bush chick?

If she thinks that Bush gives a flying fuck about minorities, she's out of her mind. Hey, lady, is that why he made sure Jeb kept thousands of black and hispanic voters out of the polls in Florida in 2000?

[senseandsensibility]

28. She actually said that

* made life better for blacks because of his positions on small business and home ownership.

[KoKo]

29. No...since the Reagan Orgasm Media has been WORSE! Can't watch

it. It scrambles my brain and gets me crazy. I think Moore's Movie and exposure we went to war on a lie has caused "powers that be" to lock down. They've added more "clone" blonde Heathers on MSNBC and CNN is just dreadful.

[senseandsensibility]

32. And yet we still

get DUers posting that CNN is fair. Most DUers are very aware of CNN's bias, however.

[mandyky]

33. W won't appear anywhere he won't get a standing O

The idiot cowboy is so vain he won't appear anywhere people won't bow and kowtow to him. I heard him the other day correct a reporter who asked him a question - Sir isn't good enough, it has to be "Mr. President". The man is a crybaby egotistical maniac.

[senseandsensibility]

36. Just saw Anderson Cooper

discuss this today. I couldn't watch the whole thing. He too is supportive of * for not addressing the NAACP, because they say such mean things about him. Boo-hoo. How pathetic.:cry:

[seabeyond]

38. i saw that

i also listened to repug husband tell me about it. he read a story on it. was disgusted, totally disgusted, first president to ignore naacp, he just shook head. i said something like boy that man can disenfranchise, and he says, he will pay, he will pay for this, wont get away with it.

hm.........lol

i let him gather most of info and digest himself, better than me stuffing it down him

[CaTeacher]

39. I guess he has the

right to not do something he doesn't want to. Of course there is little chance of winning this group (or any other) over even if he goes--so why waste the time? Except that it does look bad for him...

[deacon]

40. He sends our troops to fight in war and he doesn't have the balls to face

an audience. Real tough guy eh?

[deacon]

41. And, shut them off, CNN can't be trusted. They are a waste of time. n/t

[cthrumatrix]

42. exactly...they and faux are propaganda central...screw them