Zell Miller on MTP

[zuzu98]

Russert actually did a decent job pointing out what a hypocrite this guy is about JK at the beginning of the show.

What do you supposed the * Admin promised him to get him to drink the Kool-Aid?

[Gman]

1. Miller is a really pathetic figure

He sticks out as a pathetic figure after Russert pointed out what a hypocrit he is.

[liberalnurse]

2. Miller is an abomination!

I'm thinking *bush has some kinky dirt on him.......Reminds me of that Senator from Godfather II wherein the Senator praised Michael and the family only after the murder of a prostitute.......


What is it that *bush has on Zell?

[vetwife]

3. Hillbilly Inbred ...and I am from rural Ga.

[liberalnurse]

7. There has to be something firm......

This makes no sense at all.....How he spoke at the DNC in 92.....against Reagan/Bush etc.......which was not a criminal administration....just republican......but now.....he has kissed *bush's ring! There must be a reasonable threat for this behavior.

[GiovanniC]

12. Which Reagan/Bush Administration Are You Talking About?

The only one I can think of WAS a criminal administration.

Maybe not as bad as this one, but...

[liberalnurse]

17. I didn't know what "hell" was then......

but I certainly do know now.......Today, I look back and can respect the party opposition verses todays rape and pillage of America. There is indeed a difference.

[GiovanniC]

25. There's a Difference, Yes...

BUT, there was a hell of a lot of criminal shenanigans and goings-on in the Reagan/Bush administrations, particularly the first 2/3 of those twelve years.

[Catt03]

14. Liberalnurse...I feel the same way

I lived in Atlanta when he was Governor and I thought he was the cat's meow.....moderate but good Democratic governing.

He may talk about what happened to him in his book but something seriously shifted.

I didn't see him on MTP...did he offer a clue other than the usual?

[liberalnurse]

18. No clue but God......there is no way someone

switches so effectively without financial or threatening malice.

[Jawja]

20. Perhaps stupidity?

Perhaps he switches because he gets attention? Would Zell be getting any attention if he wasn't the lone Democrat supporting * and speaking at the GOP Convention?

I think not. He's a mountain boy from Georgia gone to the BIG TIME and he's full of himself.

[Citizen Daryl]

28. He has seen the ring, he desires the ring, he must possess the ring ...

... "my preeeecious."

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

26. "This girl has no friends, no family. It will be as if she never existed.

All that will be left is... our friendship."

[AlCzervik]

27. They are both appointed and not elected

they have a kinship.

[zuzu98]

4. He's got the Talking Points memorized.

HA! Russert: "On the military & defense, you have the same record as John Kerry." The Zell Miller says, "But then I voted for it." lmao

[Shopaholic]

8. Why the hell can't we give the Republicans

Miller & Lieberman? These people are beyond repugnant to me. Why is Zell still a "Democrat"? Why doesn't he just switch parties and be done with it? And how the hell is he allowed to spout this anti-Democratic rhetoric like this? Why won't the Democrats come out and disavow him and say that we don't want him in our party????????

I will say this--Tim did a better job pointing out what a hypocrite he is--much better than I thought that he would or expected him to. Still, he should never have given him a platform to begin with.

[Blue_Roses]

16. Bush doesn't want him as a republican because

as a Democrat he hurts us more.

[liberalnurse]

19. We are shamed and pis-st but he is not really

affecting much.....Independents don't care and Democrats know better and republicans are already without a soul. Thats the essential outcome of his behavior ....it does indeed hurt and sting for the first minute....then rationale thinking takes over......my gut say's something is very covert with this Zell switch.......

[wardunn28]

29. I am not a Lieberman fan but...

...he has not gone as far as miller. miller is insane and is traitor, whereas lieberman is just a bit too conservative. at leaset he is loyal...

[qanda]

21. He had some moments when he couldn't quite remember them

I thought the funniest part was when he said he wasn't against Kerry he was just for George Bush* and then he went on the bash Kerry for the remainder of the time. He actually sounded, at some points, like he was possessed or demented.

[mike1963]

5. God damn that filthy motherfucker to hell

:grr: :grr: :puke: :puke: :grr: :grr:

[Pallas180]

6. Miller prolly has a job with Carlyle llined up - plick he is.

grrrrr.

[liberalnurse]

9. Yea, great financial rewards can be

affective.....I just hope *bush does not follow thru and Miller gets dumped and broke......

[Norbert]

10. Zig Zag Zell

ZIG ZAG ZELL

While U.S. Senator Zell Miller has signaled his support for George Bush, the facts are Miller and Kerry have the exact same record when it comes to defending the nation and Miller even called Kerry an "Authentic American Hero" who has "Worked to Strengthen Our Military."

"I've been going to Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinners in Georgia since the 1950s, so I've seen a lot of speeches," says Sen. Zell Miller (D-Ga.), easily the Senate Democrat most supportive of the Bush agenda. "Kerry's was by far the best speech I have ever heard given at a function like that. He talked about citizen-soldiers and he talked about the flag raisers at Iwo Jima. It was a very good, touching speech." (Salon, Aug. 10, 2001)

FACT: Zell Miller Lauded John Kerry as an Authentic American Hero

"My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this nation's authentic heroes, one of this party's best-known and greatest leaders -- and a good friend. He was once a lieutenant governor - but he didn't stay in that office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in 1984. -- U.S. Senator Zell Miller (Remarks to the Democratic Party of Georgia Jefferson Jackson Dinner 2001)

FACT: Zell Miller Said John Kerry Worked to Strengthen Our Military; Fought for Balanced Budgets

"In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington. Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so. John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public education, boost the economy and protect the environment." -- U.S. Senator Zell Miller (Remarks to the Democratic Party of Georgia Jefferson Jackson Dinner 2001)

FACT: John Kerry & Zell Miller Have Supported the EXACT Same Amount of Intelligence Funding

Kerry & Miller Have Supported the Exact Same Intelligence Funding in the Senate -- Since joining the Senate in 2000, Zell Miller and John Kerry have supported the exact same funding levels for America's Intelligence agencies. John Kerry served on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for 6 years and is the former Vice Chairman of the Committee. Kerry joined the Committee in early 1993 and served until early 2001. Zell Miller has not served on the Intelligence Committee, Armed Services Committee or the Foreign Relations Committee in his four years in the Senate.

FY04 Intel Authorization (2003, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 11/21/03) FY03 Intel Authorization (2002, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 09/25/02) FY02 Intel Authorization (2001, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 12/13/01) FY01 Intel Authorization (2000, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 12/06/00)

FACT: John Kerry & Zell Miller Have Both Supported Increases in Defense Funding -- including the Largest since the 1980's

John Kerry & Zell Miller are Both Strong Supporters of America's Military & Voted for the "Largest Increase in Defense Spending Since the Early 1980's" -- John Kerry and Zell Miller are strong supporters of the U.S. Armed Services and has consistently worked to ensure the military has the best equipment and training possible. In 2002, John Kerry & Zell Miller voted for a large increase in the defense budget. This increase provided more than $355 billion for the Defense Department for 2003, an increase of $21 billion over 2002. This measure includes $71.5 billion for procurement programs such as $4 billion for the Air Force's F-22 fighter jets, $3.5 billion for the Joint Strike Fighter and $279.3 million for an E-8C Joint Stars (JSTARS) aircraft. Kerry's vote also funded a 4.1 percent pay increase for military personnel, $160 million for the B-1 Bomber Defense System Upgrade, $1.5 billion for a new attack submarine, more than $630 million for Army and Navy variants of the Blackhawk helicopter, $3.2 billion for additional C-17 transports, $900 million for R&D of the Comanche helicopter and more than $800 million for Trident Submarine conversion. The current chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, John Warner (R-Va.) stated:

"The defense spending increase for FY03 is the largest increase in defense spending since the early 1980's-reflecting the importance of defending the homeland and winning the global war against terrorism. The funding included in this bill will help to ensure that our military has the tools it needs to defend our nation." (2002, Senate Roll Call Vote No. 239; Websites of U.S. Senators Warner, Daschle, Dodd accessed 7/25/03)

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=134-03242004

It don't sound like JFK and the Democratic Party are the ones that changed, Zell. I wonder what Zell will do when Rove, Gillespie and the RNC are done using him.

[Thrill]

11. Zig Zag

Zell has really always been a Repuke

[chaumont58]

23. I think the thing with Miller is personal

Miller's appearance this morning can not be looked upon by anyone as a positive performance. Russert was, I think, gentle with him, but, still, Miller did not look good. Since Miller has been doing this bizarre turn about, I have been loosely watching him to see if it makes any sense. Nothing I have seen makes any sense at all. Miller wrote that John Kennedy was the last Dem he(Miller) thought was a good candidate for Southerners. Jesus Christ, a little noticed thing like the US Constitution overtook the South in the late sixties.
Absent a logical explanation, maybe the answer is illogical. My take is that Miller felt slighted by the Senate Dems when he arrived in DC to replace Coverdale; slighted beyond acceptance. It might not be likely that a grown man, a lifelong politicial, would react thusly, but once again, absent any logical explanation, maybe the illogical solution works.

[kentuck]

13. Purely greedy reasons....

Zell knew he was going to get out of the Senate and wanted to write a book - which he did. But he is living in the past. He thought that in order for him to have a successful book, it must appeal to the right-wingers of the Repub Party. Four years ago, he may have been right. However, he miscalculated. The times changed right under his big nose and he didn't realize it. His book is a failure and he is a bailure.

[0007]

15. I'll watch this boring bullshit? I don't know.

John Harwood makes me double sick.

I hope they can break Zell down like a double barrel shotgun, put him a corner and make a pet out of him. But that won't happen.

[VolcanoJen]

22. Weird. I thought Republicans hated Flip-Floppers.

Funny, innit?

[TexasSissy]

24. He's a traitor. I'm all for free speech and disagreeing with one's party.

But he disagrees with just about everything on the Dem. Platform, and to actively work against what your own party is trying to accomplish is tantamount to treason against the party (not treason against the country).

It is clear to me that he is a Repub in every sense of the word, but remains a Democratic because he can more effectively work against the Dems. that way. That is unethical. He will find that no one, not even the Republicans, will respect him in the end for being a traitor. The Repubs will never really trust him. He has shown he is unworthy of trust.