I see dead Christians

[Joanne98]

On the FAUX News Channel. Before anybody tries to get my thread locked, my title was a take off of the, "I see dead people," line in the Sixth Sense movie. It's a joke.
Anyway. Is this a new faze in the "war on terra"? As anybody who has been following the fundie movement knows. The conservative Christians in this country are trying to bring on the end days by destablizing the whole middle east. They believe that Jesus can't come back until a war breaks out between the Arabs and Israel, which according to them Israel will lose.
Has Al-Quaida been reading Pat Robertson's web site or is this the work of the mysterious and maybe nonexistant Zawacari. (sorry about the spelling)
Will the good Christians in America move away from the bad Christians with the ever going target on their backs. As more comes out about Christian Re-structionism, Dominionism, replacing the constitution with Biblical law, putting gays and women who have have abortions to death, etc, etc.. Is it unavoidable that a war on Christian Conservatism is coming? In this country and everywhere else on Earth?
I saw something interesting yesterday at the Kerry rally in Zanesville OH. I saw pro-life Christians, who were holding their dead fetus and kill the fag signs, being jeered by large numbers of people. This in a Republican stronghold and a very Christian town. I was surprised to see that here. Has the Christian costume finally fell off these frauds because if it has it's curtains for them. What do you think?

[Spiffarino]

1. Please, don't call them Christians

These people have been ignoring the words of Jesus of Nazareth for a long time and have adopted Hate and Bigotry as their Gods. It wouldn't surprise me if most of the people jeering at them were actual Christians. In other words, people who follow His teachings.

[Burma Jones]

2. If They're Jeering, they ain't Christians

But I sure agree with what you're saying about these so-called Christians.....

[Joanne98]

3. Your 100% right.

But what do we call them? They are the ones that keep calling them selves Christians or Evangelicals. We need a name for them that describes what they really represent. GREED, GUNS and GOD. Ted Nugent is a good example of what they really are. Or Ralph Reed who has been in more than a few scandals including Enron, Diebold etc.
Should we call them Enron Christians, corporate Christians, the Crusanders, fundies fake Christians????? This is a problem. They need a new name. One that will stick.

[DoYouEverWonder]

5. Xians

works for me.

[Mr_Spock]

18. too sophisticated for them. Plus, said out loud it sounds the same.

My GF suggests "fascists" - I agree, but it's too inflammatory.

"Twistians" has a nice connotation to it, but difficult to differentiate

"Christortions" is just too complicated

"Jesus Freeps" is funny - I like it - but most Freeps don't know they are one - hehe

"Angry Christians" says is very succinctly I think

"HypoChristians" describes them as well as anything!

I'm open to suggestions!

[coloradodem2005]

25. Evangelical Frauds.

Works for me.

[Bluebear]

47. me too

[Fenris]

24. Xians is actually the same as Christians

X or Chi in Greek is sometimes used as a one letter substitute for Christ. It actually dates back to the early days of the religion, when it was an underground movement. Oddly enough, so does the "Jesus fish" - it was used as a way for Christians to identify other Christians.

I call the fundi-christians Pharisees. It seems fitting.

[Uzybone]

46. I love your sig!

n/t

[Occulus]

13. False prophets.

The Bible does mention the deception of many, wars and rumors of wars, etc.

What are we living now, if not that? :scared:

[Joanne98]

27. False Prophets sounds good.

False Profits is even better. I saw an old fundie preacher on TV the other day saying that the word profit means working for God. And he didn't mean Prophet either. Something has to be done about the word conservative too. These people are anything but conservative. All they do is lie, steal and spend. What's conservative about that?

[AntiCoup2K4]

32. Yep... JC's words in Matthew 24 are looking very familiar these days

Matthew 24
1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

[Yogi]

15. Hypocrites

works for me.

[Mr_Spock]

20. HypoChristians !!

I like it.

[Yogi]

45. HypoChristians

excellent idea!

[SemperEadem]

43. devil worshippers

they worship and emulate all the traits they claim to detest and detest all the traits they are commanded to hold.

God is love. Period. Love makes no room for divisiveness and exclusion. It judges no one because only one may judge-- no one else, as all far short before the grace of God, even the fundamental cases. Their pride is what's going to bring them crashing down to earth. Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before the fall... I'd say the fall in imminent.

[coloradodem2005]

4. One can hope that these people will have their day soon.

Thes frauds really irritate me. When I say that I hope their day comes, I mean that I hope they will be exposed for who they really are and lose all credibility.

[knight_of_the_star]

6. That's a good name

Frauds. I think that will stick if we have the right avenue to introduce it and forcefully make it stick.

[coloradodem2005]

11. Gee. I tripped over that one by accident.

Need to make sure that they are called frauds.

[KharmaTrain]

7. Sunday Morning Timing Very Curious...

Hmmm...Christian churches in Iraq attacked by Muslim infidels...the first videos just in time for those Bible Belters to flock to the little brown church and listen to preacher Billy Joe Bob raise the rafters about how Christianity has been attacked and George W. Bunnypants needs your money and vote.

Sorry...the tin foil hat just keeps popping on this morning.

[Joanne98]

8. lol

Oh know. It's a tinfoil world. :)

[nose pin]

14. Duh

If you were inclined to attack christian churches, and wanted massive casualties, wouldn't you do it on a sunday? How many people go to church on a thursday afternoon?

I think your hat is actually aluminium.... it causes altzheimer's, you know...

edited for speelling. and punctuation,

[KharmaTrain]

33. First Thing I Could Hear Was Pat Robertson...

I'm surprised CNNservative didn't have him on with his "anal ysis". Now we have Ridge playing with the skittles again. Welcome to Fear Factor: The Next Generation.

[Joanne98]

9. Tom Ridge about to give a news conference on a Sunday

I wonder what this is about? It might be an announcement about the Al-Quaida threat to CORPORATIONS. hahaha If it is Al-Quaida has a really good PR guy. Everybody hates the multi-nationals. :)

[Joanne98]

10. link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x721142

How about the "Crusanders". I kinda like that. Or the "Beast Worshipers"?

[Straight Shooter]

12. I call them Goddians

They are followers of a vengeful, neurotic, thin-skinned, bloodthirsty Old Testament God. They like that sh*t, you know, all that smiting of enemies and being all powerful and the abomination of homosexuality and the rest of that opium-induced story-telling in the Bible written by a bunch of whacked-out men on a power trip.

These so-called "Christians" have as much in common with Christ as a two-bit whore has in common with the Virgin Mary.

[Joanne98]

19. Yep your right.

Yes sir, but I'm afraid Goddians won't stick. We need something catchy. How about Wall Street Christians. Somebody started Supplyside jesus.com. Would for-profit Christians work?

[Eloriel]

16. This sure is an offensive thread title -- even if intended as a joke

In fact, that might even make it more offensive.

And that's from someone who isn't a Christian.

[Joanne98]

21. Sorry

But if it's offensive it just means I'm "on the offensive". It works so well for the right. Being on the defensive is over for me. Christians are the last frontier. These people are not Christians. They're frauds. Somebody has to kick this door right open. If the only way to do that is being offensive, oh well......

[LoZoccolo]

28. "Christians are the last frontier. These people are not Christians."

I can't believe you'd write these two sentences right next to each other and not notice anything weird. You need to be more precise in your language and deal with actual issues rather than groups of people or else you're fomenting prejudice, and I'd believe that's actually a big part of the problem - these people feel more comfortable on the right-wing because they don't have to associate people that would talk like that about them. People like you create right-wing Christians.

Fortunately, not all of them fall for it: 39% of evangelical Christians are Democrats.

[Joanne98]

37. Christians are the last frontier because that's what they call themselves.

Kicking the frontier right dead in the face will bust the door in two. Separating the good from the bad. Most real christians have no idea what they've really been doing because the fake, evil Christians have been so stealth. They need to be exposed. They're frauds using religion to gain political and monetary power. If Jesus Christ was alive today he would send the entire fake christian movement straight into the ninth circut of Hell. He said "the love of money was the root of all evil". Bushco Christians love nothing but money. In fact they WORSHIP it. Jesus Christ hates their guts and it's about time somebody started saying it. I was glad to see at my Kerry rally last night people openly and gleefully DISPISING them. This is very good news. It means the average person is waking up to this total SCAM.
The pro-white-life movement is another truth. It's WHITE LIFE if you haven't noticed. It's time to separate the flock and put a BIG target on the Wall Street, pro-multinational corporation loving, starve the poor, kill the sick, bomb dropping, oil stealing, racist Christian Conservative movement. These are people only Ann coulter could love..

[LoZoccolo]

38. Milosevic was a member of the "Liberal Democratic" party.

The Nazis called themselves "National Socialists".

Etc, etc.

Like I said, deal with issues, not people. And be smart with your language.

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[Baltimoreboy]

22. Yeah, dead people is sooooooooo funny

[Joanne98]

23. The Conservative Christian Right

LOVES dropping 2000 pound bombs on innocent women and children. While they stand, like they did last night at my Kerry rally, with big posters of dead fetuses and signs that said DIE FAGS". I think that gives me the right to say, "I see dead Christians" because as far as I'm concerned they should be dead. But their not and not likely to be before the election. That's why I'm working on language that will separate them from the mainstream word Christian. Which they're NOT.
these FAKE christians are George Bush's biggest supporters. Which makes them a top priority to deal with in the up coming election. In other words they're fair game.

[Baltimoreboy]

52. Bullcrap

Very few people love dropping bombs on innocent women and children -- of any religion, any political party etc.

[mongo]

26. At the Kerry rally, someone was handing out flyers

Pointing out just how Un-Christian the Bush/Cheney admin is. It was a great piece. No contact info on it though. If I hadn't left it at home I would have printed some excerpts from it.

[Joanne98]

29. Hi Mongo

:) sorry I didn't see ya. the rally was great. Lot's of boos for the pro-deathers........

[mongo]

36. Yeah, the guy that was holding up the John/John for Ohio banner

in front of the protesters is a DU'er
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2128197

[Joanne98]

39. I saw that

The Blue Knight rocks.........

[realisticphish]

31. wish i had seen that

i loved the fact that the teamsters almost beat that one guy with the megaphone up; btw, sorry i didnt stop by, mongo, i was completely fucking soaked and could barely stand up lol

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[mongo]

35. No problem

We could barely walk back to the store after the rally, and my feet are still sore today.

[LoZoccolo]

30. I see dead Muslims.

Shit, why not? They flew some planes into buildings and cut some peoples' heads off. You don't know when one of them will strap themselves with explosives and blow a bunch of people up - they don't even care if they don't live to see it. Then there was that pilot like four years ago that just up and crashed the plane full of people.

Of course, I'm being sarcastic. Anyone who hits alert on this message is socially retarded. But it's right next door to what you're saying.

[catmandu57]

34. I don't believe the word christian applies to any of these "people"

They're nazis plain and simple, and they're smelling the barn well on their way to having the world as they see it. It's not going to happen though, there are too many other views in the world for these small minded nazis to inflict theirs over.
They will not succeed, their wave will crest, and will be thrown back. The more they are exposed the quicker this will happen.

[Joanne98]

41. It doesn't

they're not Christians they're frauds. That's why we need new ways to describe them. Separate them from the pack and put a target on their backs.

[Bluebear]

40. Please read this prayer from the Yahoo boards

Father, I lift up to you our brother, President Bush, say amen!! I ask that You strengthen Him, that You protect Him and that You keep Your Hand upon Him. I ask that You give Him wisdom, that You give Him courage to do what is right, CODIFY Ten Commandments into law, RETURN prayer to public school, OUTLAW homo "marriage", OUTLAW all abortion for ANY reason and OUTLAW stem cell "research" that only serves to kill Your little ones. I ask that You draw Him deeper into You, that You pour out Your Holy Spirit upon Him, say amen! That You give Him a deeping hunger and thirst for Your Word. I ask that You illuminate His spiritual eyes by the power of Your Holy Spirit. I ask that You give Him grace. I ask that He would be a man worthy of the calling You have placed on His life as the One who will bring us to Your glory. I ask that You bless His marriage, that You make Him a servant as a husband and a father. . I ask that You fill Him with Your Holy Spirit, that You work in Him and through Him and by Him to accomplish Your will in the events of the Middle East You foretold, say amen! I ask that You pour out Your love in His heart, that you keep His eyes on +Jesus+. I ask if it be Your will, that You will allow Him to remain the President of this country for another 4 years. Keep Him from physical danger. Stifle the unpatriotic left who are bent on stopping Your plan. I ask that You use Him as a tool in Your Hand for this country and this world, I ask that You empower Him to speak Your name whenever he has the opportunity. Continue to use the US as a weapon in Your Hand for the protection of Israel. Grant Him the power to carry out His mission to liberate the world and bring us to You. I ask that You continue to make Him a man of prayer. I ask most of all, that You make Him a man who knows and loves You more and more each day. Thank You that You raised Him up for such a time as this. We are RAPTURE ready, come Lord Jesus! We are RAPTURE ready, come Lord Jesus! We are RAPTURE ready, come Lord Jesus! Say amen, say amen!!!!

[Joanne98]

42. See what I mean......

they are Bushco's biggest supporters. they got to go. we need to launch a full scale attack.

[Bluebear]

44. They want to blow us to kingdom come so they can have their "rapture"

Shudder!

[PassingFair]

48. Xtian rapture talk

... is hate speech. When the deludenoids talk of the rapture, I know my enemies.

[Zomby Woof]

49. forget PNAC

The REAL reason he invaded Iraq was to usher in their psychotic fulfillment of a rapture.

[Joanne98]

50. I'd like to rapture them

Before the election..:)

[Joanne98]

51. Here's the rapture ready bulletin board just for fun

http://www.rr-bb.com/

and here's a thread with "Prayers for our president"

http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=153115

[Joanne98]

53. I did see dead Christians

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=...


<snip>
BAGHDAD/MOSUL (Reuters) - Car bombs have exploded outside at least five Christian churches in Iraq, killing more than a dozen people and wounding many more in an apparently coordinated attack timed to coincide with evening prayers.

"We are expecting a huge number of casualties," an Interior Ministry source told Reuters on Sunday, saying there had been four blasts at churches in Baghdad and two in the northern city of Mosul. Police in Mosul said they knew of just one church attack there.

The Vatican condemned the blasts -- the first attacks on churches during the 15-month insurgency -- echoing concerns among Iraqis that they aimed to inflame religious tensions.

In the deadliest attack, a suicide car bomber drove into the car park at a Chaldean church in southern Baghdad before detonating his vehicle, killing at least 12 people as worshippers left the building, witnesses said.


I did i did i did i did see a puddy cat.........

[Tight_rope]

54. Not Christians in my book...just Evil people using God as their tool

to hurt humanity!

[kentuck]

55. I see Robertson and Falwell calling George W Bush....

and letting him know that it is unacceptable that all those Christians are being killed over there in Iraq....He needs to do something about it...

[Joanne98]

56. Yeah. Send in the crusanders

Get your crosses ready.