Hah! Bill Schneider saying "NO BOUNCE" for Kerry

[Eloriel]

What an incredible stooge/shill/ass.

[NMDemDist2]

1. he did say that Dems like Kerry more than Repubs like Bush

some truth at last

[jpgray]

2. The bounce usually asserts itself in about a week

Schneider is an AEI stooge and PNAC signatory, if I recall.

[Rose Siding]

11. That's a different person

I remember reading two seperate bios that convinced me. I don't remember where so I can only leave you with the suggestion that there is more than one Bill Schneider.

[jpgray]

12. No, I believe you are incorrect

http://www.aei.org/scholars/scholarID.53/scholar.asp

Not sure on PNAC, but he looks to be connected to AEI, as I thought.

[salin]

15. You are correct... one and the same

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. The CNN Bill Schneider Is The AEI Bill Schneider

Do a google search... I'm in a hurry and can't do a link....

[Rose Siding]

26. Yes he is!

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=William_Schneider%2C_Jr.

William Schneider, Jr. is Chairman of the Defense Science Board<1> and one of the signers of the January 26, 1998, Project for the New American Century letter sent to President William Jefferson Clinton.<2>

Schneider is also a U.S. Senate appointee as Commissioner and Co-Chair for Aerospace Global Issues. "He is also President of International Planning Services, Inc. (an international trade and finance advisory firm) and an Adjunct Fellow of the Hudson Institute. He was formerly Under Secretary of State for Security Assistance, Science and Technology (1982-1986). He joined the Administration as the Associate Director for National Security and International Affairs at the Office of Management and Budget prior to being nominated as Under Secretary by the President.

"In addition, Dr. Schneider served as Chairman of the President's General Advisory Committee on Arms Control and Disarmament (1987-1993); as a Member of the Japan-U.S. Friendship Commission (operated under the auspices of USIA); as a Member of the Commission to Assess the Ballistic Missile Threat to the United States; and presently serves as a consultant to the Department of State, Department of Defense, and the Department of Energy.
snip>

"In recent years, Schneider has been the senior political analyst for CNN. While giving a speech to the Senate in February of 2000, as part of the "Rumsfeld Commission" referring to N. Korea, Iran and Iraq, he said, 'However, they would be able to inflict major destruction on the US within about five years of a decision to acquire such a capability (10 years in the case of Iraq)'.
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That's amazing. Before I had just read the beginning of the bio and thought to myself "no TV station would try to present him as a neutral analyst". Ha! on me. Amazing.

[jpgray]

28. It's incredible. When was he hired, I wonder? (nt)

[Rose Siding]

30. Since '91

Damn, they have their nerve, don't they?

Here's his CNN bio

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/schneider.william.html

CNN uses the WA Times as a recommendation for him!

"The Washington Times referred to Schneider as "the nation's election-meister"....

Amazing.

[Pepperbelly]

3. He only said because ...

in the words of Harry Truman, he's a lying son of a bitch and if he had to depend on the truth to speak, he'd have very damned little to say.

[meti57b]

4. everyone has already made up their minds against bush ...

and there is no one left to bounce.

[ClassWarrior]

5. When they say that kind of crap, they just help us manage expectations.

[in_cog_ni_to]

6. "Kerry had a bounce. Well, more like a BLIP"

What an asshole shill.

[gratuitous]

7. Was he doing a stand-up in front of the graveyard when he said it?

And did he sign off by whistling?

[MoonRiver]

8. Yes, they ignore the Newsweek poll,

which wasn't conducted, in its entirety, AFTER Kerry's speech, yet showed him up further. Instead they focus on their renowned to be biased CNN/Gallup poll, which was consistently WRONG during the 2000 presidential election.
:puke:

[goclark]

9. Wolf was egging him on to say it

What whores!

Some focus group they had that told them that Bush was still doing very well.

Talked as if there was absolutely no bounce for Democrats.
Said something about Rethugs being really motivatede after the Democrats Convention.


Are they nuts or am I crazy? I thought that Kerry is ahead in most states??

[mandyky]

10. I think Schneider knows what shrub is capable of if #s get too low

As bad a shill as he is, he may be trying to protect us by giving shrub better numbers.

[qanda]

13. These are the kinds of things that actually give me hope...

When people start considering four more years of Bush*, they will get up off their lazy behinds and go to the polls. I really hope that they keep this crap up because then the Republicans will think they have it in the bag and will stay home on November 2. They just don't get how devastating the Bush* policies have been on average Americans.

[Octafish]

14. The GOP pollsters are afraid of getting "The Treatment."

[KharmaTrain]

16. This Makes Us Stronger

Let 'em say we're behind...no bounce, no one listening, flip-flop, raise your taxes and all the other lies. It makes us madder and hopefully pushes us to work harder.

While I, like many others here, feel confident about a growing Democratic tide that is sweeping across the country, it's not assumed.

This is a game CNNservative wants to play...create a big story out of their own mish-mash...and then they highlight it as news for the rest of the day in lieu of actually real news. This is like watching ESPN Sportscenter...whose winning, whose losing...numbers for numbers sake.

As usual, Schill Schnieder doesn't say how many people were sampled or when...and I have looked, maybe someone else will find it, the EXACT questioned asked...something that can influence a response. Not push-polling, but Gallup has been known to come close to creating a poll to prove a point or generate a result based on a pre-determined end result.

Since everything falls in the MOE...these numbers are about as solid as Bunnypant's grey matter.

[Democat]

17. Even the right wing Yahoo headline writers admit there was a bounce

First Poll Shows Hike for Kerry After Convention

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040801/ts_nm/campaign_kerry_poll_dc

[NightOwwl]

19. CNN is banned in my house.

Fox is more fair and balanced than they are. And I'm not joking.

[wish_I_could_vote]

20. How the hell did they come up with those numbers?

Bush 50, Kerry 47? They claim Bush went u0p after the dem convention? How is that remotely possible?

[JCMach1]

21. It's not

[joefree1]

22. Reuters: First Poll Shows Hike for Kerry

First Poll Shows Hike for Kerry After Convention
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5836812

Sorry Bill, try again.


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[JCMach1]

23. A reminder of just how OFF CNN/Gallup has been

CNN/Time poll: Bush holds edge
From Keating Holland/CNN

October 27, 2000
Web posted at: 8:36 p.m. EDT (0036 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republican presidential nominee George W. Bush holds a 49-to-43 percent edge over Democratic rival Al Gore in the latest CNN/Time poll, conducted Wednesday and Thursday...

The poll of 2,060 adult Americans, including 1,076 likely voters, has a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points and is thus in essential agreement with a CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll also released Friday. That poll gives Bush a 52 percent-39 percent edge over Gore. More important, both polls show the same snapshot of the current state of the presidential campaign: a solid advantage for Bush...
http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/27/cnntime.poll/index.html

[fujiyama]

24. Thanks for posting that

It gives some perspective on how unreliable these polls really are.

[babzilla]

32. 5 days after that poll was released the election was held

here are the actual popular vote percentages in the 2000 election:

Gore: 48.38%
Bush: 47.87%
Nader: 2.74%

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0876793.html

[Proud2BAmurkin]

25. What were the numbers?

?

[2Design]

27. We know there was a BOUNCE....they just want to convince

people there wasn't is is the same propoganda as usual.

[spanone]

29. He's a buffoon. A Silly Ass. A Fart in a hurricane.

'Journalists' are objective. Schneider is neither a journalist nor is he objective. Kerrys bounce happened in homes across this country when the best speech this year by any politician connected with the American People. All the bill schneiders in the world can't change that.

[Zinfandel]

31. But he sure will say Bush got a bounce after the RNC.

[nolajazz]

33. The "liberal" NYT claims Kerry gains little ground

after convention, using the Newsweek poll number. They just focused on that Kerry had a net gain of 2 pct points from the Newsweek poll in early July, but failed to point out:

1) The Newweek poll took place before Kerry's convention speech.
2) More important than the 2 ponits gain, Kerry had an eight pct points lead over the "popular" "war/peace" incumbent, a "solid advantage" - the exact word used by CNN/Gallup to describe Bush's 49-to-43 percent edge over Gore in October 2000 (see post #23).

Those whores really really make me sick!!!

[AngryLizard]

34. Bush's numbers have no place to go but up

He's been consistently behind Kerry for weeks.
But I'm sure they will all lick Bush up one side and down the other when he gets his "bounce". I can hear it now - "Is this a sign that Bush's message is really getting through? Should the Kerry team be panicking now? Boy, he's really got Kerry on the ropes!"

Yeah, just wait until the debates, pal. Which Bushco will probably try and duck. Although if they're smart (let's see if they're smart) they won't duck them, but they'll do them early, so the fallout from what will most likely be both Bush and Cheney's poor showing can dissipate.

And as long as I'm ranting, I do find it kind of amusing that republicans are forced to more or less say, "I don't care if he mislead us about WMD, and makes no sense in his campaign speech ("results matter"), and has less to say about his record than the record of his candidate, and elevates terror threats for no reason, and the economy's bad, and our soldiers who are over there in Iraq under false pretenses are getting blown up everyday, and we're hated all over the world, I'm voting for him anyway!" Morons.