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Wed Aug-04-04 07:32 AM
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| Kitty Kelley's Bush-bashing book out 9/14!!! |
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Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 07:33 AM by RatTerrier
Yep, the one you've heard so much about, with lots of material from Neil Bush's ex-wife. If it's anything like her other books, it won't be pretty. And you can have it for a cool $20 via Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385503245/qid=1091622472/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-5044832-9871125 Love the timing, too! The hype starts immediately after the RNC Convention. Ad if you're familiar with Kelley's previous works, it will get a LOT of hype!
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Wed Aug-04-04 07:34 AM
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| 1. the Kitty Kelley books are good..must order this one |
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Wed Aug-04-04 07:37 AM
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| 2. If it's anything like the Nancy Reagan book... |
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Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 07:38 AM by RatTerrier
...this one should hurt.
I used to feel sorry for the subjects of her books, but I won't this time.
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:30 AM
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| 21. I read the Sinatra book, the Nancy book, and another one |
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did she write one on Jackie?
the first two were DYNO mite!
and very well vetted for facts, BTW
recall that Sinatra fricking SUED her beforehand to keep it from getting published, and was looking for ANYthing in there after it was out to nail her for libel
snips from that: his mom was the neighborhood abortionist; he had a cop MURDERED in Nevada, Jackie Mason wouldn't stop making fun of him, so some guy came up to his car, stopped in traffic and BASHED his face in. the guy was wearing some sort of chain mail glove, as Mason told it, and told him to lay off Frank
fun stuff like that
the Nancy book had great stuff, too, like poppy calling the WH after getting in a traffic accident during a nooner, and having to have them scrub it off the record
can't WAIT for this one
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Wed Aug-04-04 07:44 AM
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| 3. Let the Kitty Bashing begin- instead of Bush, media will go after Kitty |
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I doubt the media can totally ignore it like they did Larry Flynt's interesting and credible book that came out last month. But instead I expect to see a media campaign to attempt to discredit her completely and call it just trash.
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Wed Aug-04-04 07:50 AM
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| 4. yeeeech ... Larry Flynt |
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I don't care what he does for the party or "freedom of speech". The man hates women and I dislike his association with our side.
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Wed Aug-04-04 07:54 AM
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| 5. Well, he exploits, for economic gain, their desire to be exhibited |
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and presumably for economic gain themselves.
Do you have some specific information that he hates women or do you just equate the two ?
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Wed Aug-04-04 08:05 AM
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| 11. The woman in the meat grinder |
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on the cover of Hustler was enough evidence for me. In fact, it's rare that it's so obvious.
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Wed Aug-04-04 08:16 AM
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| 13. Some artists might call that a symbolic political statement |
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and art isnt always pretty.
I might just call it incredibly bad taste and crassness.
It still isnt necessarily hate.
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Wed Aug-04-04 08:27 AM
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| 14. Not even Flynt claims to be an artist |
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and I think you are making excuses for him.
If the woman was labled "liberals" or "democrats" perhaps you'd take it more personally.
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Wed Aug-04-04 08:35 AM
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| 15. An artist is someone who makes symbolic statements |
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among other things.
I'm not making excuses for bad taste or offensiveness, I'm just pointing out they need not reflect hate.
Offensiveness is often an essential or important aspect of some kinds of art.
Or maybe he's a just a sleazy, money grubbing pornographer satisfying the disgusting obsessions of his customers.
That still doesnt make him a hater of women.
I'm not making any excuses for him; I'm pointing out your leap of logic unsubstantiated by - in this thread - by anything more than an assumption.
You're certainly entitled to be offended and disgusted. I guess you're also entitled to accuse him of things. But you shouldnt expect them to be accepted out of hand merely because you assert it.
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:50 AM
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I have a female friend who makes scultpures of women being treated, shall we say, very badly, sometimes along the lines of the one mentioned above
she's a serious artist, quote unquote, and very much a feminist
how do you know the Flynt picture, abhorrent as it may be, isn't a statement on the way women are being treated?
and who CARES what his views on women might be, anyway
if what he says is TRUE, how does that have any bearing on whether he's, oh, say, a CAT MUTILATOR, or misogynist?
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:23 AM
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| 20. I'll get pissed with Flynt |
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when it is proved that he beat these women into submission, and forced them to pose nude, in meatgrinders, covered with feces, etc.
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Wed Aug-04-04 03:52 PM
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| 37. that cover was meant to be ironic, actually |
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Wed Aug-04-04 07:57 AM
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| 7. In the land of proven hypocrites... |
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the one-eyed pornographer is king!
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Wed Aug-04-04 07:57 AM
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| 8. Sure, Flynt's a slimeball, but... |
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Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 08:14 AM by RatTerrier
...he exposed Bob Barr, Henry Hyde and Bob Livingston for the frauds they are. He brought down the Speaker of the House!!!
Barr and Hyde were two of Congress' nastiest anti-Clinton attack dogs going after him mercilessly for the Lewinsky scandal. These guys were cheating on their wives too!
Flynt's a sleazebag, but I will always respect that he came out with "The Flynt Report".
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:46 AM
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care to expand on which female body part to which your username might refer, or am I reading too much into that?
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:54 AM
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*cough* chamilto *cough* has left the building.
Good catch buycitgo.
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:57 AM
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| 31. did a bit of a doubletake on that name |
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love things like that
pretty clever, that one, yes?
chamilto?
har
have you seen the website, btw?
somebody at the lounge linked it quite awhile ago
vastly entertaining
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Wed Aug-04-04 03:16 PM
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I'm dying to know what you are talking about! I've been at work for the last few hours, otherwise I would have responded sooner.
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:55 AM
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| 28. Did Flynt's book come out last month? |
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Note to self, must visit book store!
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Wed Aug-04-04 07:55 AM
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| 6. Sorry Kids...Kitty Kelley Is Crapola... |
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Hopefully we won't have to rely on this book to do more than throw some egg on the BFEE, just like her Raygun book did.
Her problem is most of her writings are based on rumors and second and third-hand stories...good tabloid stuff, but not what one would call investigative journalism. Much of what she publishes, while not completely debunked, is rarely verified, either. (example: Nancy & Frank Sinatra doin' the nasty)
For those who like trash, and I'm certain we'll have lots of laughs with the revelations about Neil Bushbot, buy the book.
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Wed Aug-04-04 08:00 AM
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Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 08:01 AM by RatTerrier
the seeds of doubt will be planted.
What should be interesting is the involvement of Neil's ex-wife. And the lurid tales of Dumbya's past will be getting a lot of attention.
Kelley's a muckraker, but people talk about her books.
And keep in mind, Nancy did it with a lot of guys in Hollywood. Peter Lawford's wife claimed he said she gave the best head in Hollywood.
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Wed Aug-04-04 08:01 AM
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| 10. Sometimes one feels like Grover - the Muppet "I like trash" :-) |
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If it is trash that offsets even a little of the crap from Fox.
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Wed Aug-04-04 08:13 AM
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she would have had her ass SUED many times over.
she hasn't. her books are thoroughly vetted.
dislike her style but don't discount her research or veracity...
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Wed Aug-04-04 08:45 AM
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| 16. That's right, she has backup for all she writes...and another thing |
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Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 08:46 AM by Neshanic
since when does using Flynt's info cause such revulsion? He was right, was he not? Got some creeps out of office real fast.
Kitty will be on all the talk shows, and will be the person who can get to some of the Chimp supporters who like the their truth written in a gossipy style. You are not gonna get those people with the talking head approach.
That's the thing that some people have about this type of information about Chimpy; they would rather have it parsed out carefully by suits, and whine about why nobody cares, than have people with the facts also, get it out there, but complain about the messenger.
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Wed Aug-04-04 08:47 AM
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| 18. That's Almost the "How Bad Did You Beat Your Wife" argument |
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Most of Kelley's topics are embarassing to the target...try and fight her and you play right into her game.
Take her to court and be assured you've just given her millions in free publicity and months of air time...where, until it's proven in a court, she can continue to site her story...even amplifying it. If this was some small timer...a blogger for example...with limited money...then you'd see the suits and Cease & Desist orders...but going after Kitty Kelley is doing so at one's peril.
Look at how much of Clinton's problems in the inquisition was based on his desire to fight for his innocence...had he settled out with the Jones cabal (and that's an entirely different topic...I'm glad he didn't at that time), it would have prevented the deposition that led to "the lie" and away we go again.
Cheers!
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Wed Aug-04-04 08:46 AM
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| 17. I glad someone said it. |
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I can't stand Kitty Kelly. Her book are pure crap.
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:51 AM
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| 26. you realize that Sinatra SUED her in advance |
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and could not find ONE thing to get her on libel, inCLUDING her assertion that he had a COP MURDERED, don't you?
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:19 AM
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| 19. The "Nancy" Book Is the Only One of Hers I Read |
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and I love KELLEY. As for "gossip" writers being low or whatever, I submit that many of the older ones adhere to higher standards of journalism than Howard FINEMAN, Judith MILLER, and the scads of motor mouths on the cable air.
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:55 AM
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sure is gonna be some TASTY SAUCE for that gooseboy, won't it?
take a gander at that, you worm
my only fear is that they'll ignore her book, as the media have so successfully done with all antibush information that comes down the pike
hoping that the success of Moore's movie will negate that sort of power being projected toward Kelley's fine literary oeuvre
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Wed Aug-04-04 10:04 AM
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| 33. They Should Be Afeard, Very Afeard. La-KELLEY Is NOT to Be Ignored! n/t |
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:42 AM
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| 22. This is a "must have" |
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I like books that dish the dirt on evil people.
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:49 AM
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Probably nothing we really dont know though!!
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Wed Aug-04-04 10:00 AM
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| 32. god, I hope you're wrong.....BUT |
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and it's a BIG one, like Moore's movie, which wasn't much in the way of news at DU, how many people have you heard say that they could not beLIEVE all that stuff they'd never heard/seen before, cause the media forgot to mention it?
I fervently hope the same thing happens with her book
how cool would it be if they made a movie out of it, starring Will Ferrell?
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Wed Aug-04-04 09:56 AM
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| 30. Drunk driving, cocaine, killing ex-boyfriends |
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Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 09:57 AM by NightOwwl
This oughta be fun!:evilgrin:
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Wed Aug-04-04 10:11 AM
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| 34. I'm not familiar with her work. |
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But I'm glad she's doing this. It's about time these right wing fucks tasted some of their own medicine. Like the saying goes. "What's good for the goose hmmmmmmmm, hmmmmmmm, can't get fooled again".
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Wed Aug-04-04 03:43 PM
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| 36. THIS will put the nail in the coffin becasue it's about his"personal" life |
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Something the average 'Merkan can understand. Politics is too complex for most of them to bother with... But people's sex lives - they can understand THAT.
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