KRUGMAN vs O'REILLY Smackdown, CNBC, 7 P.M. ET

[UTUSN]

Will re-run at 10 P.M. and 1 A.M.

*******QUOTE*******

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44149-20...

.... Fox News Channel's chief talking head was invited to "chat" with Paul Krugman, New York Times columnist and author of "The Great Unraveling," after one of the "Tim Russert Show" producers learned that O'Reilly had issued a challenge to any New York Times reporter or columnist to engage in a debate with him. ....

According to a transcript of their "conversation," a copy of which was given to the TV Column, it was everything you'd expect.

O'Reilly called Krugman a "quasi-socialist"; Krugman called that "slander" and said if he is a quasi-socialist then O'Reilly is a "quasi-murderer"; O'Reilly pronounced Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" a bit of "Nazi propaganda" that reinforced all of Krugman's "paranoid delusions"; Krugman insisted Moore's flick was "flawed" but was made by "a guy who really does love this country"; Russert hardly got a word in edgewise; and a good time was had by all. One of those exchanges that make you so proud to be a journalist.

During their give and take -- okay, maybe it's more accurate to say push and shove, or slap and smack -- O'Reilly would periodically accuse Krugman of not letting him get in a sentence, or words to that effect.

So we counted and, according to The Washington Post TV Team Transcript Tally, O'Reilly actually got in 321 sentences during the "debate," to Krugman's 258.

********UNQUOTE*******

[CatWoman]

1. just tuned in

:hi:

[Salviati]

2. the link seems to be broken...

Here is (hopefully) the fixed link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44149-2004Aug5.html

[Dudley_DUright]

3. Kick

On now.

[UTUSN]

4. "Two observers and commentators..." Saith G.E. RUSSERT

R: "Mr K., You say George (Shrub) is a RADICAL. Why RADICAL?"

K: "They want to get rid of things like Medicare. Look at Tom DeLAY."

O: "They want a small government. Don't trust (who?). But I'm not here to defend the Shrub (mal-)admin. I want everybody to know that. ....It's supply side. The economy is coming (way) back..."

K: "We've had 3 terrible years on jobs. One (smaller) year. Not true that we're back where we started."

[UTUSN]

7. K: "That's a Lie."

(About O saying PK "wrote column after column saying the Shrub tax cuts would lead to recession".)

O: "DON'T CALL ME A LIAR, PAL!"

K: "I said the tax cuts were INEFFICTIVE."

O: "9-11 did it NOT HAPPEN??? DID IT NOT HAPPEN???"

[Dudley_DUright]

5. O'Reilly is already lying

about Krugman book.

[CatWoman]

6. LOL

Paul just called O'Reilly a

LIAR!!!!!!!!

OReilly is losing it!!!!

[CatWoman]

8. Paul: This is not your show, you can't cut my mike

ROFL!!!!

[sallyseven]

112. That was the funniest thing I

ever saw. I never see o'riley so I am not familiar with his stupid style tonight was an eye opener. Timmy was rather subdued. Maybe he is thinking am I that bad? Yes timmy you are. The liberal talk shows really made me laugh out loud.

[Reciprocity]

9. Krugman to O'Reilly

"This is not your show so you can't cut off my mike" priceless.

[Dudley_DUright]

11. That really got under O'Reilly's skin!

Loved it!

[UTUSN]

10. K: "This is not your show. You can't cut my mic."

O: "THAT'S A CHEAP SHOT. THAT'S WHAT YOU DO, YOU'RE A CHEAP SHOT ARTIST!"



LOLLLLL, O'Whorely is such a DENIAL psychopath. He's LOST it twice already. PK is cool and collected.

Going to break. Haha, G.E.RUSSERT has spoken 1 or 2 sentences.

[Gothic Sponge]

12. I hate O'Reilly!

He makes me ill!

[proud patriot]

13. Oh yeah I'm watching now

missed the first part

[Andyjunction]

14. O'Reilly trying to be physically intimidating

he looked like he was going to take a swing at Krugman for a minute.

[jaysunb]

I thought he wasgoing to hit him too

I wish I'd been sitting there...I'd have fire his ass up for pointing his finger at me !!

[Rose Siding]

15. Oh! "Bush does stuff he doesn't really want to do"

But I'm not here to defend him or anything. lololol

[KoKo]

16. Geeze! Krugman! Why go into that "whorefest!" I've seen Krugman and

he never comes off good in these "entertainment RW Whore Fests!" Why the hell did his publisher send him out there???

Krugman is a "reasoned thoughtful person" up against Media and Idiot Idealogues! He can never hope to look good no matter what he says. These folks don't "listen!" They are like the C-Span call in's who've been given their "talking points" and "walking points."

I have a brother who is exactly an O'Reilly. He doesn't listen...he will carve you up into pieces and leave you wondering why you weren't "good enough" to convince him.

Paul...give it up...don't make yourself look like a "weenie" when you ARE NOT!!! It's not worth it! They don't listen...they don't even HEAR YOU! They WILL NOT BUY YOUR BOOK!

[Dudley_DUright]

22. Krugman is kicking O'Reilly's butt on FACTS

Of course, if you have already drunk the cool-aid, you don't listen to facts anyway. Bill just pulled the socialism canard.

[KoKo]

27. The viewers of this show HAVE already drunk the Kool-Aid! Give it Up!

I admire Krugman for trying...but beating one's head against a brick wall to sell a book..goes beyond the pale for me.

Krugman is too important to "whore himself" for his publisher like this...REALLY!

[UTUSN]

24. PK Is Doing GREAT - Cool, Collected. Needs to Talk More n/t

[CatWoman]

30. sometimes I really don't get you?

give it up?

WHY???!!!!

He's destroying O'Reilly with FACTS.

And he just sits back at let O'Reilly show everyone who an out of control loon he really is.

I could subscribe to your theory if this was O'Reilly's turf -- but it isn't.

[KoKo]

37. Cat...I have a bias. My brother is an O'Reilly clone...Krugman doesn't

ever do well on these shows. I LOVE KRUGMAN! I don't watch Cable, but I see DU alerts when there's something I should watch. I've caught (I believe) all of Krugman's few appearances. His performance is too nuanced and intelligent for these shows.

Does that answer your concerns about "where I come from." If you had a brother like O'Reilly...you might understand. I hope with all my heart you have NO ONE in your family like that Devil from Hell!

Okay? :hi:

[KoKo]

Maybe I'm wrong here, but doesn't O'Reilly think EVERYONE is Socialist?

Isn't that the Repug Mantra? SOCIALIST, SOCIALIST, SOCIALIST...when it comes to us Dems? Maybe I missed something along the last 30 years...but I think Socialist would be incribed on my boobs if I listened to the Repugs all that time. :-(

[Cush]

77. Brit Hume is slightly conservative?

[FredScuttle]

139. You know....like Rick James is slightly dead

and O'Really is slightly full of shit

[Dudley_DUright]

17. States can't spend money on "No Child Left Behind"

What BS. NCLB is totally underfunded. Krugman is now kicking ass on taxes.

[jaysunb]

18. this is too good !!

hope it gets coverage

[Gothic Sponge]

19. Quick! We need to raise taxes here in New York!

This way O'Reilly will leave radio! ;)

[UTUSN]

20. O: "I am a guy who says both parties want to buy votes."

K: "Why the tax cuts for the people least going to spend."

O: "I worked my buns off. And you two probably do, too."

R: "You think we're under taxed."

K: "Because there are certain things we want....sustain the programs we want like Medicare and (), the programs middle class Americans depend on."

[Rose Siding]

21. O'weeny is so out of his depth

He does some anecdotal schtick then Paul rolls out MASSIVE facts.

He's just toying with bill.

O: I'm Mr Self-Reliant, he's Mr Big Govt (famous temper rising)

[Alleycat]

23. Pathetic

This is just pathetic. What ever happened to journalistic integrity. I know they are not journalists!! It reminds me of a side show. As a society we are getting closer and closer to the "running man" with the reality TV boom, talking heads on the radio and news only spewing their opinions. Help us all!!1

[Dudley_DUright]

29. Welcome to DU Alleycat

:hi: That last "rant" O'Reilly went on was just classic. Talk about a filibuster. Krugman was just rolling his eyes in disgust.

[Rose Siding]

45. What do you mean? Krugman's journalistic integrity is BEAMING!

Or are you just commenting on O'reilly?

Welcome to DU

[Alleycat]

116. Just O'Rielly

I was speaking about just him but seriously why do we even bother he is so nuts what the point of trying to debate with someone as off the wall as him!!! Never mind I just answered my own question, lets make hime look as crazy as he sounds!!!

[CatWoman]

25. O'Reilly is losing it!!!

he's yelling and flailing all over the place.

Paul is cool, calm, and looking at him like he's a lunatic.

[otohara]

26. O'Reilly Is Such A Fucking Pitbull

He goees for the throat from the get go.

I like how he said "paul krugman was a very smart man" Yeah get that out of the way - so it justifies your stupidity. The college professor vs the fuck right-wing talk show host .

[madmax]

28. Will this be repeated?

My husband is a major HUGE fan of Krugman but, he's working til 10:00 p.m. Thanks :hi:

[Reciprocity]

35. Yes at 9:00 central

[madmax]

40. Thank you... love!

[Gothic Sponge]

31. I never watch O'Reilly

Is socialism the new evil?

[UTUSN]

32. O: "You are A SOCIALIST." R Let Him Rant on. Went to Break.

I know the breaks are pre-destined, but it sure looks like O'Whorely is at a meltdown point when miraculously G.E.RUSSERT calls a break. PK hasn't had a chance to defend against the "socialist" word.

[CatWoman]

33. LOL

Paul called O'Reilly a "quasi murderer"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[UTUSN]

34. K: "If I'm a socialist, that's a slander. "

O: "I said QUASI."

K: "Then you're a quasi murderer."

[yowzayowzayowza]

43. Oh my.

That was soooooooo sweet.

[proud patriot]

36. Oh really said "Iraq a mistake" them slams onto "you think * lied "

[Rose Siding]

38. O: You still beatin' that drum? No, you're very clever.

*Egypt has come out and said he never told Franks about WMD

[UTUSN]

39. O: "Everybody knows the Iraq war was a screw-up."

O: "Are you saying that (Shrub) LIED."

K: "I'm not using that word. He knew what he wanted to hear and people were willing to tell him what he wanted."

O: "No, you won't use that word. You're good at language..."

K: "Well, so is (Shrub)."

[Rose Siding]

41. O can't do anything but aim personal barbs!

Each rebuttal is answered with a personal retort. Memo to O: stick with shows where you can cut the mic

[Dudley_DUright]

42. Bill is making a fool of himself (as usual)

First he admits that invading Iraq was a major screwup, then he spends the rest of his rant defending Bush's decision. What an idiot.

[UTUSN]

44. K: "Knight Ridder was talking to the analysts (in Iraq) off the record

at the time. The analysts were saying, we are under immense pressure to find WMD."

O: "No, you're SMARTER than everybody else."



O'Whorely does nothing but PERSONALLY ATTACK. Yep, break time again.

[Gothic Sponge]

46. I love Krugman but

i'd love to see Mike Malloy and O'Reilly!

[ClintonTyree]

47. O'Reilly....................

is losing it. He can't handle a give and take conversation. If he cannot dominate the discussion he get's all huffy and start's throwing insults around. He has a VERY short fuse and has no business being in the talk show game. He can't take criticism and acts like a spoliled baby when anyone else trys to voice thier opinions. Gee, who else does that remind you of? I think there's a certain guy illegally squatting in the White House with the same character faults.

[UTUSN]

48. R: "What about the nuclear cloud. Was that hyping?"

O: "I never bought that. But let me go back, we left one thing out: BILL CLINTON thought we had WMD."

R: "Let me go to O'R's question. If you have all these people telling you these things are there, do you have an obligation to act."

K: "We had an obligation to get the inspectors in. And the inspectors where THERE."

O: "I know you know more than all of us do. BLIX came on my show and said they aren't letting us talk to the scientists. France and Russia were getting BRIBED."

[salin]

52. er... wtheck?

Russia and France were getting bribed? Sorry Bill - just exposed yourself to the viewers that are not as big of whack jobs as your usual fans - how crazy/conspiratorial and nonsensical you are.

[Dudley_DUright]

49. Total lies about the inspectors and Hans Blix

They were interviewing scientists and going pretty much anywhere they wanted.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

50. OReilly cracks me up.

He is so typical of the RW in that he can't get through his speech without at least one personal insult.

[Fenris]

56. One personal insult would be a milestone for O'Reilly.

His entire "debating" style consists of loud volumes, erratic gestures, and ad hominem attacks.

[CatWoman]

58. Krugman just put O'Reilly in his place

regarding his threatening posture.

[UTUSN]

51. K: "About France being bribed, that comes from CHALABI."

O: "Your paper did 40 Abu Grarib stories but you haven't done any on the bribe."

-------so of course G.E.RUSSERT cuts off KRUGMAN and goes back to O for another monolog (NYT slants against Shrub).

[ClintonTyree]

53. O'Reilly is such SLIME!!!

He can't say anything with throwing a personal insult in with it. What a control freak. I REALLY REALLY hate this asshole!

[Lone_Wolf]

137. I'd love to punch the bastard out...

n/t

[Rose Siding]

54. Tiny spark from Krugman, there

saying the "NYT has *nothing* to do with what goes in my column"

He didn't like that implication flung by O

"The Krugman wing..." O snarls.

[spanone]

55. O'reilly is a Vile Prick.

[Tatiana]

57. O'Really is soooooo intimidated by Krugman.

He keeps saying he knows Krugman is SMARTER than all the rest of us.

Ha ha ha ha ha, he knows Krugman is way more intelligent than O'Really will ever be. This illustrates very succinctly the Republican rejection and fear of intelligence and intellectualism.

"It's kinda hard to have a reasonable discussion here." Ain't that the truth, Paul?

[Rose Siding]

Paul's a saint.

It's like before they went on, someone suggested he treat O as he would treat a misbehaving 7 year old nephew in public or something.

[madmax]

62. I bet O'Really still wets the bed. He's such

a freakin baby.

[NewJeffCT]

117. Hey Billy - if Paul Krugman is so smart...

Bill - if Paul Krugman is so smart, why do you disagree with him so much?

[Dudley_DUright]

59. Whoa

They almost came to blows there. Bill really hates Al Franken. I love it!

[UTUSN]

60. O: "You're appearing with STUART SMALLEY

AND YOU'LL PERSONNALLY ATTACK ME and you'll LIE ABOUT ME. And I RESENT THAT."


K: "Well, we resent you, too. ...You know, it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion."

O: "*I* think it's reasonable. RUSSERT would throw me out if it weren't."

K: "Would he? I don't think so."---------LOL

[madmax]

84. B.O. would have simply thrived wearing a brown shirt

downing mugs of suds in the beerhalls of Nazi Germany. I want to rip his guts out! :mad:

[proud patriot]

61. That was fabulous Oh really totally imploded

Wheeeeeeeeeeee! Al Franken has sure gotten under his Skin ..
Al's somewhere laughing at this very moment LOL

[salin]

64. Is it continuing in the second half of the hour?

or is the segment over?

Its entertaining just reading about it.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

63. OReilly is the ultimate pot calling the kettle black.

"You are VILE SCUM because you are GOING TO attack me personally!!!!"

[madmax]

65. His tone was so childish. He's a twit!! n/t

[nostamj]

66. the ?W Revue tribute to Bill...

...this gets a HUGE hand in our "media medley"

To the tune of “Bill Baily”

YOU’RE JUST A CLOWN O’REILLY
BILL, PLEASE SIT DOWN!
WE’RE DIZZY FROM YOUR SPINNING!

YOU LET AL FRANKEN BAIT YOU
AND PLAYED THE FOOL
THE DEVIL GOT HIS DUE

THE POMPOUS PRETENTIOUS RAVINGS
THAT MAKE UP YOUR SHTICK
IS JUST ANOTHER RIGHT WING RANT
YOUR SHOW ON FOX–
JON STEWART MOCKS
O’REILLY WON’T YOU PLEASE SHUT UP

[ClintonTyree]

67. GOD.....................

I'd like to get O'Reilly one on one in a fucking alley. I'd slap the taste out of his mouth. He acts like such a big, tough man. He's a fucking whimp who's only weapon is a big gapeing maw and the ability to cut off people's mics. I hate that fuck!

[FredScuttle]

140. Watching "Outfoxed" and the scene where he rips Jeremy Glick

who lost his father on 9/11 and committed (in O'Really's mind) the unpardonable sin of opposing the war is too much. Then, he has the utter gall to bring up Glick's mother, a grieving widow at this time. Glick is a better man than me...if that was me, I would reached over the table and ripped his goddamn throat out for even mentioning my mother.

This man is a gutless pig

[spanone]

68. Watch O'reilly, What Arrogance.

He is a total nazi.

[proud patriot]

69. Now talking about F9/11

Krugman listing all the things bush used 9/11
to pass tax cuts etc.......

[Dudley_DUright]

70. O: "Krugman's paraniod delusions"

Now lying about F9/11

[glitch]

71. no cable here - please tell me PK is laughing at this jackass

thanks for the terrific thread for the cable-free!

[proud patriot]

82. Yes he seems to be enjoying himself

he's smiling

[UTUSN]

72. K: (wrote) (Shrub) exploited a national tragedy for political gain.

K: "I don't know how anybody NOT believe that. I kept getting calls (from Congress) saying they (Shrubbites) are demanding (this or that, capital gains) because of 9-11."

O: "Richard CLARKE is a flat out... the most vivid example. I don't know how any respectable journalist can say that propaganda has VALUE."

K: "Fox does it all the time."

O: "ANOTHER CHEAP SHOT. That's a CHEAP SHOT. ...I sat there (Election night 2000) sitting there and you said Fox News skewed the election results."

K: "You have said over and over that (Shrub) would have won Florida under every recount model. Not true. (Reads AP saying otherwise)."

[Feanorcurufinwe]

73. Krugman: This is the modern world, just google it

:P

[Tatiana]

74. OMG Krugman breaking out his notes.

KILLING O'Really with FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arguing over the Florida recount. Krugman truthfully states if recount was conducted under the way Gore requested, Bush would have won. Under EVERY OTHER STANDARD applied, GORE would have won.

O'Really tries to lie and say Krugman isn't right. Krugman tells people to go do their own research and find out the facts for themselves.

[Dudley_DUright]

75. O: Addressing shut up, shut up

and lying about it.

[Rose Siding]

88. Why did he think his example was a good one?

Why should it be ok for him to have told the guy to shut up about his sexuality? If they'd left that in, he'd have looked *worse*

[UTUSN]

76. K: "(Faux) takes marching orders from the right wing, Repub party."

O: "PK embraces propaganda of the worst kind. That's why I have such little respect for him."

[salin]

78. little kettle calling here, eh bill?

[UTUSN]

89. O: "It is unbelievable because YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT"

RE: Is Faux conservative spin.

O'WHORELY has talked for two minutes. PK gets only to shake his head and mutter "unbelievable".

O'WHORELY said that if you go down the Faux line-up, VAN SUSTERN is a Liberal; COLMES is a Liberal; HANNITY is a wingnut Fascist pig (paraphrasing here); "I'm a TRADITIONALIST, and Shep SMITH is really nothing. He's NOTHING."

G.E. RUSSERT, "I'll give you a chance to respond after the break, PK."

[UTUSN]

93. K: "You lied about Michael MOORE and denied it on the same program."

O: "You have a date?"

K: "Yes, June 28 on the radio."

K: "About the convention coverage. You didn't even cover the JK speech."

O: "Where did you get that June date. MEDIA MATTERS. You might as well Call FIDEL. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, Mister Propaganda."

[Doosh]

126. load of shit

OReilly- Conservative
Hannity- Conservative
Colmes- moderate
Van Sustern- who cares, all she covers is laci crap
Hume- Conservative
Barnes- Conservative
Kondracke- slightly to the left of center
Krauthammer- conservative
Shep Smith- conservative

[nostamj]

79. O: Faux puts on more LIBERALS

than CONS....

the black hole has opened!

[salin]

86. Prove it Bill - pull the numbers - for a given week

it would be interesting to see what happens when you have to come back with FACTS to back up your wild and completely hypothetical claims that you assert as fact.

[Dudley_DUright]

80. O: "We put on more liberals than conservatives"

What a joke! This guy is delusional.

[Gothic Sponge]

81. This just in:

Fox News has more liberals! Who would have known with all the nazis there!?!

[proud patriot]

87. LOL

[VoteDemocratic2004]

83. O'Liely's comments are 8th grade school yard bully tactics

The POS can't debate he can only call names.

[spanone]

85. 'Faux has on more liberals than any other channel' O'reilly bwhahahahahah

bhwhahahahahahahawhwhbhbhbhbhehwhwhwhwhwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahbwahahahah:puke:

[ClintonTyree]

90. Wasn't that rich?

I almost fell out of my chair. If O'R really believes this he's the most self delusional SOB on the planet.

[Tatiana]

91. This is HILARIOUS!

Saying Krugman uses left-wing research.

O'Really is LOSING IT!!!!! Screaming.

[Rose Siding]

96. Media Matters just prints quotes from transcripts.

How does O get propaganda from that?

[Tatiana]

101. He called it propaganda, but AGREED he made the statement!

Is something propaganda if it is true? O'Really, in fact, legitimized Media Matters as being accurate regarding his comments. His beef was with the fact that Krugman had the nerve to challenge his opinion.

Typical Repuke. Traditionalist my ass.

[Gothic Sponge]

108. Because anything that points out the truth....

has to be spun as "liberal hate."

Unreal!

[wicket]

92. "Why don't you just call Fidel!!!"

OMG!!! O'Reilly is losing it over mediamatters.org!!!!! :)

[nostamj]

94. O'R is completely INSANE

and has made an utter and absolute (further) ASS of himself

MEDIA MATTERS MEDIA MATTERS I SHOULD CALL THE KKK!!!!

[madmax]

102. I must agree.......completely NUTS!!! He needs meds.

I'm sure you all noticed how he would raise his voice and use body language to intimidate P.K. I think P.K. could kick his ass!! Be very careful of those quiet Professorial types.

[Ladyhawk]

146. Remember Franken's book: Lying, Splotchy Bully? n/t

[Fenris]

95. Watching O'Reilly is like watching the worst Shakespearean actor ever

Recite the "Turner Diaries."

[UTUSN]

104. O'REILLY Is Seriously Psychologically Disturbed

and I believe that. He is thisclose to having a psychotic break. And yet, with his penny pinching self-promotion he DEMANDS that PK go on HIS show (where he WILL have control of the mic). And will call him "coward" if he won't go.

[Selwynn]

97. O'really is seriously out of his mind - like he was totally scary!

[Dudley_DUright]

98. O'Reilly just completely lost it

Slinging around the communist word. Media Matters is a "hate group"? O'Reilly totally unbelievable. Someone needs to feed him some anti-psychotic drugs. It would improve his disposition immeasurably.

[spanone]

99. Even a Pacifist Would Love To Kick The Shit Out Of That Guy.

[Cat Atomic]

100. O: "OH! MEDIA MATTERS! OH HO! SEE?!"

Uh... so the fuck what? Did you say it or not, Bill? What difference does it make who hosted the clips?

He's such a tool.

[tishaLA]

106. The Mediamatters.org hysteria was the funniest part

who would have thought that Fidel had such a strong foothold in the attemtps to overturn Mr O's Supreme reign? it's shocking I tell you! Shocking!

[NightOwwl]

103. I love the way Krugman handles O'Rielly.

The big bully is used to having people back down. Krugman with his facts and calm demeanor really pisses him off, and I am enjoying watching him in potential heart attack mode.

[madmax]

105. Russert sucks as a host.

B.O. got more time and Russert never once told him to tone down his bully stupidty act.

[tishaLA]

109. He thinks the screaming is informative

and that it adds drama. I'm sure Timmy, the squire of Nantucket, will be smiling all the way to the bank. After all, it was his hard work and good preparation that made tonight's show a success.

[nostamj]

110. keep it simple

RUSSERT SUCKS. period.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

111. I don't think he did OReilly any favors by giving him more time.

He just looked like a maniac. I don't think many people just starting to pay attention to politics who tuned into this show would be persuaded by his performance.

[hlthe2b]

128. I agree. O'Liely is his own worse enemy.

He is a raging idiot.

[wtmusic]

119. Eh

Russert was fair and Krugman held his own. I say let O'Reilly make an ass out of himself.

[whistle]

134. Russert looked like he could hardly wait till the show was over...

...so he could go get drunk.

[FredScuttle]

142. wait?

he looked half-in-the-bag during the show. Aside from grumpy plugs for Krugman and O'Really's books before each break, he looked pretty detached and in a kind of stupor. Perhaps that Plame deposition didn't go as well as he hoped.

[otohara]

138. I Expected Better of Russert - Stupid Me

OR went after PK from the get go - and Russert just sat there like a lump

[proud patriot]

107. Ya'll have got to catch the repeat of this show

oh really imploded upon himself and is now
a steaming pile of hate ...Wheeeee !
it was fun to watch.

[CatWoman]

113. It repeats at 10 eastern

Additional Airings
Date Time Channel VCR Plus+
Sat, 7 10:00 PM 36 CNBC 4700262
Sun, 8 1:00 AM 36 CNBC 7046137
Sat, 14 7:00 PM 36 CNBC 4547795
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Sun, 15 1:00 AM 36 CNBC 7875641

[Tatiana]

121. Good lookin out CW.

Everyone who has cable should catch the repeat.

[oddtext]

127. mp3/mpeg video?

would someone with cabe be so kind as to post an A/V file of this woefully mismatched debate? i'd love to see/hear it! perhaps we'll see something similar in JFK v. * later this year :P

[kaitykaity]

143. I second, third, and fourth that request.

Please, please, please?

I want to hear it for my ownself.

[glitch]

114. Thank you all for making it so real for us w/o cable!

!:yourock:

[NewHampshireDem]

115. Best Line: "I'm a traditionalist"

What the fuck does that mean? LOL!

"I'm not conservative ... I'm a 'traditionalist." O'Reilly ... you're a fucking hoot!

That and, "I didn't tell him to 'shut up' ... I said 'Why don't you just shut up about your sexuality." LOL! He really is a douchebag.

Actually, wait, a douchebag might have some real use ...

[Feanorcurufinwe]

120. Yeah it was funny how he was complaining

about them cutting the quote short, and the whole quote made him look like just as big a jerk, and he didn't even realize that.

[skrunch]

144. If by "traditionalist" O'Reilly means...

...an ignorant loudmouth asshole spewing his intolerance and stupidity around like projectile vomit...then yeah, I'd have to agree...he's a traditionalist alright.

[Warren DeMontague]

118. O'reilly reminds me of a drunk bully.

Go pass out in your own vomit, ya asshat.

[Window]

122. Thanks for the heads up, but

I could not look at the show. I can't stand O'Rielly.

Thanks to all DU'ers for the blow-by-blow.

[Shopaholic]

124. Any psychology professionals out there got any insight into

what kind of mental illness O'Reilly has? I mean, he clearly is deluded. Beyond that, he's egotistical, maniacal, and bullying. Is there a term for that?

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

145. Unfortunately, he's not insane...just like 30-40% of the US population.

He's threatened by uncertainty and the nuance of life. Intellectually immature and likely to use denial as a defense mechanism, O'Really is not unlike a huge segment of the population...many of whom are given to buying the "party line" and often succeptable to leaders or organizations that paint the world in "black and white" terms (e.g., fundamentalism, conservative dictums, fascist leaders, etc.).

In O'Really's case, this restricted general world view is combined with a raging narcissistic personality disorder and repressed anger (at god knows what...but likely to have something to do with an authoritarian father and over-indulgent/histrionic mother).

O'Really is just a sad and pathetic person...the best he can hope for is the realization that his life and legacy will be lost to history.

JB

[LittleApple81]

123. WHO IS O'REILLY TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC THEORY??? WHAT ARE HIS

QUALIFICATIONS? How much research has he done? What economic theories does he follow? HE IS JUST A BLOWHARD WITH A BIG MOUTH AND A FOSILIZED BRAIN. I cannot stand the man.

[Doosh]

125. I thought it was going to be a civilized discussion

but Oreilly started in with the shouting and finger pointing fairly quickly. What a turd.

[LittleApple81]

130. But why should a DEMOCRATIC person deign O'Reilly with any

opportunity for discussion? HE IS JUST AN IGNORANT YELLER!!!!

[johnfunk]

129. Smackdowns are smackdownier the second time around...

Watching the repeat -- this is just too much fun!

... although it would've been nice if Russert's producers had put in a laugh track to support O'Reilly's lunacy...

[LSU_Subversive]

131. I loved it! PK: "Ok, heeeeeere we go!" <breaks out data>

O'R desperately kept trying to question PK's sources and he was SHOT DOWN every time.

[bloom]

132. there must be some people out there who LIKE O'Reilly

that's a sad thought.

[whistle]

133. O'Liely was being a total bully and a thug with Krugman...

...Bill is such a jack-boot SS Storm-trooper. His days as a TV commentator are numbered. November 3rd will be Bill O'Liely's last day for his show on Fox based on tonights performance. As for Krugman, he won on all of his points, at least the ones he got in in spite of O'Bully's ranting!

[Protected]

135. Krugman stares up at the studio lights

LOL, I probably would have done the same exact thing if I was in his shoes. It's clearly pointless trying to reason with O'Lielly. Tim Russert did a really horrible job moderating this, but that comes at no surprise.

I've got to read Krugman's book now.

[Tosca]

136. And the right wing opposition

will applaud Oreilly for his forthright victory over the "elite, Northeastern intellectual, pinko" Paul Krugman. You betcha. They will.

Krugman should stick to print. Not TV circus shows.

TV circus shows are for ragin' Cajuns and the like.

[Clyde39]

141. How can ANYONE take O'Reilly seriously

It would be impossible to have a "debate" with this person. He is the epitome of obnoxiousness.

[Ladyhawk]

147. Website for those who haven't already seen it

http://www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com

[depakid]

148. Thanks- I forgot about this. REM's Bassist plugged it on Franken

The interview with Garrison Keillor was classic.

[kodi]

149. it was beautiful to watch, like a matador with a drunken bull

I kept noticing Krugman looking over to Russert with the body language of "see? this guy is nuts!"

I mean, who is stupid enough to debate Krugman on economic theory of tax cuts?

This is the guy who has been honored with the Eccles Prize for Excellence in Economic Writing, the John Bates Clark Medal, the Adam Smith Award, the Nikkei Prize (with M. Fujita and A. Venables), and the Alonso Prize.

Is that the sort of limited economic training background from which O'reilly stems?

Its like Moe Howard arguing with Einstein over physics.

Yeah O'Reilly is a bully. any one of us who has spent enough time bartending can see it instantly. he's the type of drunk who would pick a fight with his own shadow and brag on how he beat it down.