30% of Votes for 2004 will be with Electronic Voting -- What can we do?

[cthrumatrix]

The Howard Dean story with Bev was shocking. The proof of voter

hacking played out in 90 seconds and we have 30% of our votes

counted this way for the next presidential election.


What can we do at this point?

Is the fix in?

How can we catch the vote fraud.?


What can Kerry/Edwards do at this point? Shrubya is behind and the

folks at Diebold at big awol supporters. What can we do?

[jdj]

1. vote absentee if it 's done with paper in your county.

[jdj]

5. someone posted on here that they requested a ballot

to vote absentee and the election board person asked them why, were they going out of town, blah blah blah, and their reply was yes, but that they were to be given a ballot if they requested one, that no explanation required. This is good to know in case the pukes get wise and try to harass people out of voting absentee. It's telling they are so unconfident in these machines that they are starting to tell their own people to vote absentee. I have heard that in some counties you have to go down there and vote on a dre on a different day, rather than being given a paper ballot, I don't know if that's true, haven't investigated it.

[ParanoidPat]

7. Election laws vary by state......

......You can find out what the rules are for your state at either of these links. :evilgrin:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/state_statutes2.html (Scroll down to Elections)

http://www.lawresearch.com/v2/statute/statstate.htm#elections

Check the section(s) for Absentee and/or Vote by Mail for your state.

[jdj]

8. here's a post from another thread on this:

You probably have that right in most if not all states, BUT


"there's no guarantee that that right will be fully respected on election day. Plenty of people in FL didn't get to vote those provisional ballots for one reason or another, for example. There weren't enough provisional ballots, or the election workers weren't trained properly and denied them, and so forth.

Further, many people who are concerned about electronic voting machines like to suggest people vote absentee or by provisional ballot (if they can) -- ANYthing which is paper over electrons. Unfortunately, you also have no control over how those paper ballots are treated either. I am especially suspicious of absentee ballots, since they usually are sent in advance, and give evildoers plenty of opportunity to do what they will with them -- "misplace" them, forget all about them, drop them in the circular file, etc., etc., etc. There's a reason Jeb Bush pushed absnetee ballots HARD in FL in 2000, and it wasn't just to bump the Repug vote there."

Eloriel

[iamjoy]

2. Yes, Vote Absentee

I am not kidding. If you live in a county with touch screen voting, contact your local Democratic party and ask if you can be a precinct coordinator/chair/captain. Get a list of registered Democrats in your area. Call them and ask if they are concerned about their votes being counted & want to go absentee.

If you can't connect with a local Democratic party, call your supervisor of elections.

[Sabriel]

3. That little tidbit of info made me want to hide under the covers

I mean, 30%????? Are we Cheney'd, no matter what we do? Although the program itself was wonderful viewing, the idea that the election is/might be rigged no matter what is pretty depressing.

[kestrel91316]

4. VOTE ABSENTEE - permanently!!!!!!!!!!

[Andy_Stephenson]

10. No guarantees with absentee unless....

you take your ballot to a polling station on election day.

Andy

[buff2]

6. The fix is in

No wonder that smirking bastard doesn't look worried.

[cthrumatrix]

16. nothing else is more important...and it feels as though we are looking

the wrong way while another elction is stolen

[Poiuyt]

9. The Republicans have been telling their people to vote absentee

[B Calm]

11. No matter where you live

I recommend that you vote with an absentee ballot. We need a paper trail!

[Andy_Stephenson]

12. We already have a "paper trail"...read my sig line

gett he verbage right...What you really want is a paper ballot.

a

Voter Verified Paper Ballot.

[Andy_Stephenson]

13. and 80% of that 30% of the votes will be counted by

2 brothers Bob Urosevitch of Diebold and Todd Urosevitch of ES&S.

Go figure

[DeepModem Mom]

14. kick

[Zorra]

15. There's this old song that goes,

"If I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the morning, I'd hammer in the evening, all over this land, I'd hammer out danger, I'd hammer out a warning....."