God Is Not a Christian

[LibertyorDeath]

Or any other denomination for that matter.

This is one of the things that burns my Ass about
Fundamentalists.

They miss the whole fucking point entirely.

[RobertSeattle]

1. There's a similar meme that goes

I love Jesus, It's Christianity I hate.

[Cha]

3. Feel that way about all cults.

Or organizations!

[HuckleB]

2. What if he or she was Christian?

Would it matter?

What he or she was a Christian Fundie?

Would it matter?

Would it change the ethics of right and wrong and all the in-betweens?

[w4rma]

4. He might be. He might not be, too. He may not even care. (nt)

[livinginphotographs]

5. I don't hate God or Christians...

I hate organized religion.

Something that I figured out when I lost the trenchcoat and the Marilyn Manson CDs. :P

[Cheswick2.0]

7. That is such a cliche`

Can't you come up with anything more original than the bad bad "organized religion" nonsense?

Some pretty terrific things happen we religion organizes. Poor people get fed, Habitat for humanity gets funds and workers to build homes, medical clinics get built in third world contries, schools are funded in Haiti, the RED CROSS gets funded and goes places where all others fear to tread.

[livinginphotographs]

9. Give me an f'in break...

And crusades get organized, and homosexuals get hated....

Dogma is the main problem with organized religion. You may have your own ideal of how it works, but that isn't the way it really is. All those things are in the minority. Try hanging out with Baptists for a little while...

[demwing]

22. Christianity is NOT the only religion

And the fucks who are running Christianity are not ever really followers of Christ!

You can't accurately judge a thing by the way it is misused.

[livinginphotographs]

27. I'm not saying Christianity is the only religion...

I have a problem with it whether its Christianity, Islam, the Church of Satan, or the Branch Davidians.

Unquestioning belief in anything is wrong. I have no problem with believing in god, but once it's organized, someone will inevitably use it wrongly to further their own secular agenda. So I CAN judge a thing by its inherent flaws....

[demwing]

32. OK, I agree, its the "organization" aspect that I'm against

and it seems as if you are as well.

[BiggJawn]

12. And Smallpox blankees get handed out, and food gets with-held...

And the food bit is recent history. Take a ministry run by a guy named Lester. Take a Navy surplus Reefer Ship and an ex-Brazilian Airforce C-130 Herky-Bird. fill 'em with food. Take 'em to Africa. Unload them, and distribute the food just like they do at rescue missions in our cities, i.e: No food until we hear "The Sinner's Prayer" coming out of your mouth...

Yeah, poor people get fed alright...

[allalone]

14. I grew up in Chicago

down the block was one of those midnight mission type places. They used to make the men who came there liston to a sermon before they would give them food. How do I know? Because the people who ran it used to pay my friend and me to pass out the hymn books.

[BiggJawn]

21. And how do I know about the C-130 and Ship?

I worked in one of Lester's TV stations...

"Well it only make sense to feed 'GAWD's Children' first, don't it?" was how it was expalined to me.

[fudge stripe cookays]

35. ...and Planned Parenthood clinics are bombed.... n/t

[jackieforthedems]

6. God Didn't Divide Us

God didn't divide people - people divided themselves into religions. I was raised Catholic, still attend service in a Catholic church because I like to worship in a church, but I don't agree with all of their beliefs. I think the important thing is to believe in God, and if you also believe in Jesus, that's an added plus. Just my opinion.

[AntiCoup2K4]

8. If God is a Christian, would it mean He was Jewish and converted....

....after His son was born?

(Just a question of course... I don't believe God belongs to any particular church, denomination, temple, or whatever.

[zmdem]

20. I think you misunderstand Christian theology

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, the trinity, existed from all time, equally. The notion that the Son was a later creation of the Father is a heresy that no orthodox church subscribes to. The physical birth in the flesh, to Mary, is irrelevant in this regard.

[DivinBreuvage]

10. I agree, he's not a Christian or any denomination... BUT

my personal belief (I am a Christian, baptized Catholic but no longer attend Catholic church) is that he still prefers the Jews. Once the divinity declares you His "Chosen People" that doesn't just go away.

[jcldragon]

11. God told me that....

it doesn't count, unless your figure it all out for yourself.

That should settle any questions as to why I have the Dalai Lama as my Avatar.

http://www.jamesclairlewis.com/pages/metapage.html

[zmdem]

13. The doctrine of the Trinity would seem to contradict you

Given that the Son has coexisted throughout eternity with the Father and the Holy Spirit, then in some sense it would appear that God is a Christian. As for your "burning ass", I don't think it would be just Fundamentalist Christians who would disagree with you.

Christ was God incarnate, according to orthodox christian theology. In some sense any christian would view God as a christian. What else would He be ? A Hindu, a Muslim, etc. That would make little sense.

[DivinBreuvage]

15. Um, Christ (and by extension God) would be, like, a JEW????

Read the book, dude, it's right there.

[WillyT]

16. LOL !!! - That Was Good !!!

:bounce::hi::bounce:

[DivinBreuvage]

18. Thanks, WillyT! But seriously, I meant what I said before...

I don't believe that the middle-eastern desert God that so much of the world now believes in (whether as Jews, Christians, or Muslims) ever really got over His first love.

[zmdem]

17. Yes, but

Read the New Testament. Christ came to make a new covenant.

Personally, I'm not religous, but surely if a religion is to be ascribed to the Christian God, it must be Christianity.

[DivinBreuvage]

23. He makes it quite clear that he is a Jew and does not overturn Judaism.

And the Christian God you speak of (as well the Muslim God) is really only the same old Hebrew God that spoke face to face with Moses in the desert. There really is no such thing as a truly "Christian" or "Muslim" God.

[zmdem]

25. I do understand

According to orthodox christian belief, Christ did not come to overturn the Law, but to fulfill it. Through Him, God was making a new covenant, one that was open to gentiles as well as jews.

I also appreciate that Islam derives from Judaism, as well as Christianity.

[IdaBriggs]

28. Actually, Islam came from Christianity.

The middle east had gotten converted to Christianity, and then everyone hit an 'interpretation' problem -- were the Trinity three separate people, and which one was in charge? It might sound stupid nowadays, but it became a "burning issue" for those who were deemed to be "heretics" in their understanding. The Prophet solved the question by saying, "Look, there is ONE GOD," and then declared himself a prophet because he figured it out. He also said Jesus was a prophet, and since everyone was already related to the Jews (who were kind enough to father Jesus) respect and tolerance for the "fore-bearers" of the Islamic faith was instilled. I'm paraphrasing pretty heavily here, but this stuff is detailed out in a book called "The History of Christianity." I can't remember the author's name. :) Ida

[LibertyorDeath]

19. I am not talking about "The doctrine of the Trinity"

I am talking about the this bullshit.

Our God is the only True God.

God is not a Hindu, a Muslim or a Christian or Jew.

God just is. IMO

I said Fundamentalist ( as in all Fundamentalist of any denomination )

God is NON- Denominational

Humans on the other hand are Fucked.

They mis-use & abuse the teachings of Christ every chance they get.

Adulterate them & turn them into Self - Serving Shit.

but what else is New.

[zmdem]

24. Fair enough, I misunderstood your post

As someone who is not religous, all I can do is interpret religous beliefs on the basis of what each religion says about itself.

Your claim that "God Just is" is OK with me. Why do you have such a strong view that Christ's teachings are misunderstood by Christians ?, willfully so. On the whole it seems to me Christians understand Christ as he is presented in the scriptures and in the works of orthodox theologians. It seems natural that they would. Why should they acccept that their God cares not what they believe ?

[DrWeird]

26. An archbishop runs into the Pope's office...

and says, "your holiness, I've got good news and bad news!"

"What's the good news?"

"The good news is it's the second coming of Christ! He has returned to us!"

"What's the bad news?"

"He's in Mecca."

[AntiCoup2K4]

29. Mecca? Whenever I heard that joke before, the punchline was always...

...Salt Lake City.

[Stuckinthebush]

36. Wasn't the doctrine of the trinity a man made thing?

Made by the early church to try to clear up the whole god is Jesus, Jesus is god, the "holy spirit" is all of them mess?

[noonwitch]

30. How could God be any religion?

God is God, religion is man's creation. Man is God's creation. God is beyond that kind of thing.

[MARALE]

31. did anyone see the jewish infomercial?

This is a little off the subject, but I was flipping channels the other morning and there was an info-mercial about sending jews from old Russia to Isreal for the end of times? I thought it was a joke at first and looked to see if I had ended on the comedy channel, but it was real. It really bothered me. It was very creepy the way they were talking. Has anyone else seen this?

[Swamp Rat]

33. dupe

dupe

[Swamp Rat]

34. The Moon is made of cheese

Why isn't this thread in "Civil Rights/Equality/Privacy?"