If the touchscreens wipe out Chavez, Kerry will lose too.

[genius]

Bush people have been shooting the poor people who are trying to vote for Chavez. But Chavez has the support of 70% of the people. If Choicepoint could turn that into a loss, then Kerry doesn't have a chance in November - with all the electronic voting.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

1. that's the way I've been seeing it

absolutely

[iconoclastic cat]

7. Are we seriously saying that ShrubCo is tampering in Ven.?

That's a very serious allegation. Damn.

[Joanne98]

2. Keep your hopes up

We still have a couple of hours to go.

[iconoclastic cat]

3. Wait, wait, wait---

First of all, how do you know that "Bush people" are responsible for those shootings?

Secondly, I had no idea that Venezuela was using touch screens--do you have any verification of that as a fact?

[Webster Green]

4. Its logical to assume they are "Bush people".....

ChimpCo Inc. supports the opposition. They managed to overthrow the Democratic government in Haiti, installing drug runners and murderers (birds of a feather), and they have the same plans for Venezuela. If necessary, U. S. Marines will be sent to help prop up the opposition thugs.

Thats the way it works.

[iconoclastic cat]

5. Yeah, I know about Haiti.

But I had no idea that Venezuela was using touchscreens. Are they nuts? Who would use our touchscreens?

Is this going to turn into a scandal for the U.S.?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. BushCo supported the military coup against Chavez two years ago . . . nt

[Massacure]

6. Sephard Smith interviewed someone about Venezuela.

The guy said that if Venezuela was using it, we should too. :puke:

[No2W2004]

8. Hate to say it,

this has been going on for a long, long time in South America....whenever the U.S. corporations feel threatened by a government they consider "hostile" to their interest, then you can almost count on a coup. Henry Kissinger did this in Chile when Allende was elected. It will continue until the corps no longer hold sway over the US government.

[ParanoidPat]

9. Several things wrong with your premise.......

.....the biggest of all is Choicepoint having anything to do with the touch screens! :evilgrin:

Unlike the machines that will be used here, the touch screens used in Venezuela have a 'paper trail' in the form of a voter verifiable printed ballot for every vote cast. :)

Funny thing is that the original system that was recommended by the U.S. State Department for use down there was manufactured by ES&S (Election Systems & Software) and it FAILED MISERABLY!

http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=3

Scroll midway down the page.

Caracas, Venezuela:
Venezuela's highest court suspended elections because of problems with the vote tabulation. Venezuela sent an air force jet to Omaha to fetch computers and experts in a last-ditch effort to fix the problem before the delay was ordered. Dozens of protesters chanted "Gringos get out!" at ES&S technicians. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who U.S. officials would very much like to see unseated, accused ES&S of trying to destabilize the country's electoral process. Chavez also asked for help from the U.S. government because, he said, the United States recommended ES&S.

[w13rd0]

10. Of course the US recommended a shoddy system...

...hell, we could have predicted that when Bush signed off on HAVA.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

12. Well it looks like Chavez won fair and square

so sleep well.