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Mon Aug-16-04 07:26 PM
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| Huge turnout of poor for Chavez....What would it take for Americans to... |
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turn out in great numbers and take back their government from the corporate country club cabal?
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Mon Aug-16-04 07:28 PM
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and something for which to vote.
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Mon Aug-16-04 07:29 PM
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| 2. the churches being on the right side would be a good start n/t |
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Mon Aug-16-04 07:29 PM
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Mon Aug-16-04 07:29 PM
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| 4. Same thing -- campaign with policies favorable to poor people |
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and make it clear the government, under the new leader, will protect the rights and needs of said poor.
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Tue Aug-17-04 09:41 AM
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We have a winner. Alas, not likely to happen this year.
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Tue Aug-17-04 09:49 AM
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| 17. Did you notice it's not something that people want to hear? |
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Did you notice it doesn't seem to make an impression?
We're supposed to be glad all the attention and soliicitation goes to the "moderate" conservatives, and there is no mention of us.
We're supposed to ignore our own needs, and work feverously for the next regime. Then, celebrate the victory, even tough there's nothing there for us to celebrate.
Then, die quietly so as not to disturb others.
Yup, there's a big difference in the voter turnout, alright.
Thanks, goodhue. I'm very discouraged, and it helps to have one person notice what's *really* happening.
Not likely to happen this Year? Naw............ or any following year. We're expendable.
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Mon Aug-16-04 07:29 PM
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| 5. The excesses of busholini inc? |
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Mon Aug-16-04 07:31 PM
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| 8. we'll see in a few months |
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if that's enough by itself to bring our tired and poor to the polls in big numbers. I'm guessing not.
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Mon Aug-16-04 07:31 PM
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| 6. A Person of Native heritage who was not a colonizer |
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a working person motivated by love of humanity?
Someone who is willing to die trying?
someone who actually TRIES to get their support by mobilizing the people to get the poor to vote.
I don't know - not this election
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Mon Aug-16-04 07:31 PM
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| 7. When a leader actually acts on the Peoples' behalf (n/t) |
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Mon Aug-16-04 07:39 PM
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| 9. This means Chavez has been elected three times... |
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Tue Aug-17-04 09:09 AM
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Tue Aug-17-04 01:05 AM
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| 10. Someone like FDR running in similar circumstances to the 30s |
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The 80% of the population in Venezuela that is poor has just gotten a super version of the New Deal, and they want to defend it.
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Tue Aug-17-04 01:09 AM
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| 11. Yea for Chavez. I wish those people would vote in our election. |
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Tue Aug-17-04 09:51 AM
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| 18. I don't think I understand why they would...........? |
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Tue Aug-17-04 01:14 AM
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| 12. vote for American Idol at the same time |
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Tue Aug-17-04 03:12 AM
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Sadly, I'm not entirely joking.
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Tue Aug-17-04 09:21 AM
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| 15. It's not free when you bust your ass for your country and expect your |
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country to give you a little something back.
Like John Edwards said during the primaries: it's outrageious that a person working 40 hrs a week at ANY job in America would go home hungry.
When a nation creates a ton of wealth, it's outrageous that the cogs in the machine -- the engine, the people who keep the wheels of capitalism turning -- are denied participation in the wealth the machine creates so that the people who own the machine can engjo immense profits from the machine.
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Tue Aug-17-04 09:53 AM
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| 20. Naw, it's only the poor folk who want "free stuff", ya gotta remember that |
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The corporations NEVER expect something for nothing.
The giant conglomerates NEVER get "free stuff".
:crazy:
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Tue Aug-17-04 09:52 AM
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| 19. For background see "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" |
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In that documentary, poor people are quoted as saying that they supported Chavez because he gave them something to vote FOR. Once he was in office, he distributed copies of the country's constitution and encouraged people to study them. His televised call-in programs (which the mainstream press described in terms that made him sound like TV evangelist Gene Scott) kept him in touch with the population.
The impression I gained from the film was that the combination of paying attention to the poor and encouraging their political education created a force that stood up against the Venezuelan equivalents of country club Republicans and Fox News.
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