Iran warns US

[malatesta1137]

Isn't this the best news Bush could have gotten? Another golden opportunity for Kerry to show Americans that Bush's only goal is to plunge the globe into a massive nuclear holocaust. Let's see how Kerry will react to this:

Iran warns of preemptive strike to prevent attack on nuclear sites

Iranian Defense Minister Ali Shamkhani warned that Iran might launch a preemptive strike against US forces in the region to prevent an attack on its nuclear facilities.

"We will not sit (with arms folded) to wait for what others will do to us. Some military commanders in Iran are convinced that preventive operations which the Americans talk about are not their monopoly," Shamkhani told Al-Jazeera TV when asked if Iran would respond to an American attack on its nuclear facilities.

"America is not the only one present in the region. We are also present, from Khost to Kandahar in Afghanistan; we are present in the Gulf and we can be present in Iraq," said Shamkhani, speaking in Farsi to the Arabic-language news channel through an interpreter.

more at:

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/040818/1/3mio0.html

[PretzelWarrior]

1. super. they invite Bush to preempt their preempt.

this is getting ridiculous. Thanks, Bush...you dumb fuck.

[ogsball]

2. This truly scares the hell out of me. . .

Iran is not Iraq.

[LibertyorDeath]

7. Welcome to DU

Yes "Iran is not Iraq."

Iran knows how to play power politics.

I'm thinking they already have Nukes with help from North Korea
Pakistan & China.

If America tries to Invade Iran or attacks from the Air

the ME will come unglued & North Korea's itchy trigger finger will spasm.

It's fight or flight & there's no where to run to.

[Jokinomx]

9. You and me both ogsball.... Welcome to the DU....

Hope to see more of your opinions and comments.....:toast:

:dem:

[TankLV]

15. What's a couple letters among lunatics?!

Iran Iraq.

It's easy to misstate, or misunderestimate, or mis...

nevermind.

[JohnnyRingo]

3. Remember the good ol' days when the UN was a forum for leaders

to sort out differences?
I think it was way back in the 20th century.

Now we have "The Great Uniter"

[K-W]

4. We are forcing countries to be with us or against us.

It is such a stupid stupid strategy.

[DivinBreuvage]

5. Yeah, well, I have just THREE WORDS for Ayatollah Yabbadabbadooie

BRING IT ON, BEOTCH!



MANDATORY SARCASM NOTICE: if you are a literal-minded and/or irony-challenged reader, you are hereby advised that the above commentary employs a rhetorical device known as "sarcasm" which does NOT convey the author's genuine opinion but the direct opposite thereof. Please address all correspondence to the "Huck Finn is a Racist Screed" institute.

[tom_paine]

22. still, bravado aside and the fact that this is all talk likely

a bad sign

by the way...it's been quite some time since I sat down and read Common Sense end to end.

I'd forgotten than fantastic line!

[DivinBreuvage]

23. I agree it's probably just bravado and talk, but at the same time

we all know that the people who power this administration really want to go into Iran but face a number of practical obstacles that make it difficult to realize that dream. I wonder sometimes if this talk isn't more than just saber-rattling -- if they're keeping the heat on in the hope that somehow or other, if they keep stirring the pot, something is eventually going to happen that will give them an opportunity.

And, yeah, even 200 years later and the war long won, Common Sense still has the power to get a person riled up! In light of the 18th-century mindset toward monarchy, I can only imagine how explosive his words must have been at the time.

[Bandit]

27. You sound just like Bush*.. I guess you don't care how many people die

either. You think America would not suffer if Iran did attack? Yes we may eventially win, maybe... but how many of our children would die? What a very foolish statement.

[DivinBreuvage]

28. You flaming nitwit, read the "MANDATORY SARCASM NOTICE" at the bottom!

I've long since learned that some people on this board are constitutionally incapable of detecting sarcasm, so I try to help you out. I explicitly point out the sarcasm. "THIS IS SARCASM" I say. And does it do any good?

In your case, the answer is clearly a resounding YES!

(HINT: That's sarcasm again.)

[Bandit]

34. I guess I don't read all of the tiny little print in some posts

Maybe you could use something a little more noticeable.

[DivinBreuvage]

35. You have no excuse. The photo of Troglodyte Bush with the Monkey

should have tipped you off. I don't feel the need to apologize to you because you're a hasty reader. I do think, though, that I'll take your advice and color the notice red to make it stand out more.

[Warren DeMontague]

6. "Some military commanders in Iran...

...are convinced that preventive operations which the Americans talk about are not their monopoly"


Wow. Who could have foreseen that attitude taking hold, huh?

If you plant Ice, You gonna harvest wind.

[LibertyorDeath]

8. I Love that pick of Dimson you have

I laugh everytime I see it. :)

Thanks

[Tamyrlin79]

10. Dems should run with this

This is the perfect opportunity for Dems to point out what the logical consequences of a preemptive policy are. If we can do it, so can any other sovereign nation. That's why such policies should never be undertaken without U.N. endorsement. It is the only thing to prevent others from acting without similar legitimacy.

[ogsball]

13. The masses aren't rational

If Iran threatens or God forbid attacks us, then the election might very well shift toward Bush. It would be his opportunity it would all be blamed on Michael Moore and Al Franken and the main stream media would feed the frenzy. Not to mention how many of our troops and innocents in Iran would die. As it is I figure the Bush doctrine has squelched any moderate voices that existed in Iran and N. Korea and maybe even Syria.

No this Iran thing is bad.

In an even more frightening thought I could see Bushies playing this up and even as they find themselves slipping in the polls drooping a few of bombs on Iran to provoke a war. This has to be seen played by the media as a very bad thing for Bush.

[Strelnikov_]

17. Maybe Some 'Iranians' Will Attack A Radio Station Across

. . the border in Iraq about Sept. 1st.

[sventvkg]

11. That's a bit Bold...

We could and would vaporize them....I'm not a supporter of Bush or his policies but if they attack us I support vaproizing them...Which we could and would do..

[malatesta1137]

14. bold?

they are just trying to defend their land from another American illegal carnage. And I find your use of the word 'vaporize' disturbing.

[K-W]

16. We have been threatning to attack them for a while.

They are just posturing to defend themselves.

[TankLV]

18. Thanks. I fee so much safer now!

I don't suppose there'd be any left over to come here and do a little bombing or worse of their own, now, huh?

Thanks, umm, for your, umm, "insights", umm...

But then again, the complexities of faulty actions are too much for some.

One more thing, is that before or after we shove a boot up their asses?

Need to be clear on this new world of bush* diplomacy.

[REVOLT823]

19. By vaporize I suppose you mean nuclear options,

in that case, it is entirely possible they have the same toys we do. I for one am not up to risking the lives (more than we currently are) of our 150,000 tropps in Iraq, if we go nuclear, they are fair game in Iraq. If you are referring to conventional means, we are in no position whatsoever to pick another fight. We currently have our hands full in Iraq. So do we attack them, put our backs to the people we have been occupying and sandwich our forces between two countries that hate our fucking guts. I was in the Marines for 6 years and don't recall any tactics like this employed. Remember, Iran is not some third rate military, they are good and they have good equipment. We gotted the Iraqi army back in the early 90s, so when we went back this time it was fish in a barrel. Taking on Iran would be a tall order and would cause lots of casualites. We Americans need to do less strutting and more thinking.

[shraby]

26. I believe they have nukes. Read

American Judas on the Plame Indictments thread.

[REVOLT823]

33. Shraby, I have been keeping track of your progress on the

Plame threads, that's what I based my comment on. BTW, hats off to you guys on your progress, excellent work done by all.

[Kinkistyle]

24. Which would you vaporize first, the women or kids?

Just wondering.

[Razoor]

12. This is truly scary stuff!

thanks bush* you dumb moran! cheney you and your stupid preemptive policys! see where this has got the US in the world? Iran is alot more dangerous than Iraq. good grief I cant wait untill november it cant get here soon enough. this would be a good opportunity for Kerry to show what bush*s policys have effect on the world

[Disturbed]

21. Reagan.

He sold around 2,000 missles to Iran. I bet they kept those in good condition and have more of them now. They may even have some of them targeted on the Israeli Nuke facility. A war with Iran would be insane but with the Neo Fascists in charge in the USA, I would not discount one starting.

[Nordic]

20. my theory all along: Bush wants Iran to attack Iraq and will provoke it

Just in time for election day he'll have a nice new war on his hands.

If MIHOP is true, what's stopping him from using black ops to attack American troops?

A really ugly bloody attack against Americans in Iraq would be sure to fuel nationalistic ire on the part of Americans, gather 'round their "leader" once again, just in time for the election.

How dare those Iranians! Let's kill them!

Then the nukes will fly and Halliburton can rebuild Iran as well.

Call me paranoid ......

[Killarney]

25. this is really scary -- we're dealing with a bad situation here

if they have nuclear capability, we have to wipe out their nuclear capability
but if we do that, they say they will attack us and Israel.
that will lead to all out war.

:(

[Kazak]

29. I found this news in my local paper...

burried in a tiny blurb in the back of the paper. Needless to say, my eyes bulged.

[wadestock]

30. It spells COLD WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST

And although Bush and Co. would much rather wage war and take over another country...they can be rather satisfied with a new cold war (haven't gotten over not having one with the Soviet Union)

But their incompetent behavior in these "fundamentals of foreign policy 101" is outrageous....

The fact that they've spread the apparent success of getting Libya to "buckle under" the threat of US use of force is pure BS....and the reality of all of this is that the REAL threat (from their point of view) was IRAN in the first place (has WMD and nukes!).

Now they've ironically lost their chance to do anything with IRAN because they've been smart enough to see this coming a mile away, have planned the widespread dispersement of the "nuke capability" so that it can't be knocked out using surgical strikes....and FULLY INTENDS to develop a nuke capability.....

SO THAT THEY WON'T BE THE NEXT IRAQ!!!!

NICE JOB W

[GiovanniC]

31. Yay! Nuke-You-Ler War!!

Woo-hoo!

The only problem I can see is that it's been so long since children have been taught to get under their desks in case of a nuclear attack that they might not know what to do in that event.

[tranche]

32. They hate us for our preemptions.