Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act (S.2466)

[DaveSZ]

http://brownback.senate.gov/liunbornchild.cfm

Protect the Unborn! Contact your U.S. Senators today!
Dear

Unborn children can experience pain, and they can certainly respond to touch from outside the womb. Any woman who has been blessed with carrying a baby in the second trimester can tell you this.

To address this issue, U.S. Senator Sam Brownback has introduced--with 23 cosponsors--the Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act (S.2466), which would require those who perform abortions on unborn children 20 weeks after fertilization to inform the woman seeking an abortion of the medical evidence that the unborn child feels pain--

a. through a verbal statement given by the abortion provider, and also

b. by providing a brochure--developed by the Department of Health and Human Services--that goes into more detail than the verbal statement on the medical evidence of pain experienced by an unborn child 20 weeks after fertilization.

The bill would also ensure that the woman, if she chooses to continue with the abortion procedure after being given the medical information, has the option of choosing anesthesia for the child, so that the unborn child's pain is less severe. Read more about Sen. Brownback’s excellent case for this legislation.

The Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act serves as a reminder, to mothers and the technicians who commit abortion, of the humanity of the life growing inside the mother's womb.
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Abortion is a barbaric practice and your Senators must stand up and protect the sanctity of human life. CLICK HERE to contact your U.S. Senators today and urge them to co-sponsor this vital legislation. If your Senator is already a co-sponsor of The Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act, our system will help you send them an appreciation email for their stand.

I agree with Senator Brownback who says, "Unborn children do not have a voice, but they are young members of the human family. It is time to look at the unborn child, and recognize that it is really a young human, who can feel pain and should be treated with care."

Please forward this urgent legislative alert to all your family and friends.
Sincerely,

Donald E. Wildmon, Founder and Chairman
American Family Association

[DaveSZ]

1. Isn't viability about 22 weeks?

nt

[kaos]

8. viability

Very cold.

[REP]

20. Viability is About 26 Weeks

and has a 75%+ mortality and morbidity rate (most births at that age do not survive, or survive with serious defects that kill them later on).

[Citizen Daryl]

2. My wife miscarried. Where was your god THEN, Wildmon? n/t

[DaveSZ]

3. I don't think this is about children

People like Sam Brownback don't give two shits about the child after it's born.

Still, I am personally opposed to abortion after viability except for health reasons.

[Warpy]

9. Dave, most doctors will agree with that

I've only seen late abortions done for the most tragic of reasons, either because there's a serious deformity that ultrasound failed to pick up earlier, or because illness or injury prevents the mother from either carrying to term or undergoing a c-section. I have never seen one done on a healthy fetus with a healthy mother.

I just don't think the government, the churches, or the right to life hysterics have a stake in a decision that should be between a woman and her doctor. Sometimes you just have to trust doctors to help their patients make the right decision. That's what they were trained to do.

[onebigbadwulf]

4. "Feeling pain" is quite an abstract term on the continuum of feeling

A fetus 'feels pain' like an ant 'feels pain'. Yes it reacts to adverse stimuli, but it doesn't cognitively understand what's happening or what it's feeling.

It doesn't have the complex cerebral cortex or experience to understand what the input it's actually receiving is. Any reaction from the fetus is mostly likely autonomic (originating from the spine) and happens without the brain knowing anything.

[gumby]

5. Margaret Atwood might be a prophet

.....

[Scooter24]

6. So...

the government is dictating science? Why on earth would they force doctors to say something they believe isn't factual?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

7. When are the Pro-Lifers going to start adopting American babies...

...that are being born to Americans that clearly don't want them, instead of going overseas to buy other unwanted babies?

It's easy to stand next to an abortion clinic shouting obscenities at doctors and patients alike, making a terrible situation even worse for the women going through the procedure, and then go home without any other obligation, isn't it?

When are the Pro-Lifers going to force Congress to step in and cut the bureaucratic red-tape that makes it nearly impossible to adopt unwanted babies in this country? Where DO the Pro-Lifers stand on this issue?

[shraby]

10. A baby born at the bottom of

the viable weight to survive was given an MRI to check on the development of the brain. It was found that the brain had no convolutions at that stage of development.

[drhilarius]

17. Never...

This is not about the welfare of children, because if it were Repubs wouldn't be so keen on cutting programs like WIC or general welfare or Medicaid. It's about controlling women's bodies, plain and simple. It's also about the Right making sure they get more uneducated voters (by cutting those precious children's' education funds), more cannon fodder, and more cheap labor.

[AirAmFan]

11. What's next? Will the Senate vote on whether 'PI' shall be declared

equal to an even twenty-two sevenths?

The extreme right is trying tp bring back the Inquisition, with Jerry Falwall as Torquemada, defining and punishing heresy.

[fortyfeetunder]

12. USA article today (Aug 19)..

there was a story about a girl who weighed 9 ounces at birth (27 weeks gestation) and has grown up to be a violin prodigy at 15. Stories like this, which I think they are rare, is misguided ammunition that all babies will be healthy and perfect regardless when they are born...

[Toucano]

13. 1.4% of all abortions performed in 2000

were performed at 21 weeks or beyond. Such an exceedingly rare procedure is most likely the result of a difficult decision relating to the health of the mother or the health and development of the fetus.

In circumstances like that, a brochure about how much the fetus feels is about as necessary and welcome as the procedure itself. Why not just take a shit on the woman?

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5212a1.htm

[loyalsister]

18. Thanks for the sanity!

You correctly point out exactly how little compassion this bill shows the women who are in the midst of a WANTED pregnancy gone hideously awry.
It is also dishonest to equate noceception and perception with autonomic reactivity. Unfortunately, too many people will buy it.

[Toucano]

23. It appears that dishonesty is the No. 1 tactic.

I wasn't able to find a report more recent than 2000 which concerns me a little because I worry a little that the administration is trying to hide the fact that the downward trend of the Clinton years has been reversed during god's chosen president's term.

[MisterP]

14. guess Wildmon graduated from hollering about Mickey Mouse sniffing flowers

and Donald Duck supposedly quacking expletives.

[DaveSZ]

15. Scooter

You know as well as I that "pro-lifers" usually don't believe in science, and after the children are born they don't seem to care about them.

;)

[neebob]

16. How stupid

I really resent paying for the stupidity.

[LibraLabSoldier]

19. Doctors dont preach, Preachers shouldnt practice medicine....

THis is yet another example of the attempted hijacking of America by the Christian Right.....I have been assaulted with the so-called "partial birth" abortion pictures, ect. I personally do not feel that abortions will every become a replacement for birthcontrol. It is surgery! I think all that outlawing abortion wholesale will do is cause more death, at the hands of back alley butchers.....all this sentimentality, yet the hard core antiabortion folks openly advocate murdering abortion doctors.....


True story. My friend was several months pregnant. She asked me to go to PP with her to pick up her prenatal vitamins. She was poor, and they gave them out free there. As we approached, several protestors aproached, screaming very un-christian like slogans at her, such as whore, babykiller, ect. One large woman ran up and attempted to hit my very pregnant friend in the stomach. I was working at a nursing home that was also an adult psychiatric care facility at the time, so I knew how to subdue a crazy person without hurting her. We made it inside. Did they stop to assume that maybe, just maybe they would have harmed my friends baby? No. They were hopped up on selfrighteousness....they wouldnt have really cared if they caused her to miscarry, because they could just blame her for going to planned parenthood.


We need to get rid of these religious fundamentalist terrorists(Wildmon is no better than Al Sadr in my book.)

[Cronus Protagonist]

21. I felt it when my dad's cock poked my eye in the womb

I think he should have been arrested for causing me pain and possibly making it so I can think of little else but sex now that I'm grown. I want pain and suffering money along with ten years of sex counselling that I'll no doubt need to help get back on track.

And we should ban sex with pregnant women so that my friends-o-the-womb don't have to suffer in future. Think of what the unborn child goes through with every thrust! Why, it's revolting and barbaric. I had a right to peace and quiet dammit.

*sob*

Sorry, I'm venting, I know, but it's cathartic.


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[Warren DeMontague]

22. That slow chipping sound you hear

is these monkeys trying to find new ways to chisel away at Roe V. Wade.