A sad thought.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

If shrubco actually succeeded in "winning" the election through seedy tactics like the Swifty Smear, among others (such as the Polier Smear etc.), I really do think sometimes that as a country, we would really deserve to have the smirking fratboy as our emperor.

Not we as individuals. The country, collectively. And we would have thoroughly earned the scorn and opprobium of the world.



"My problems are not with the American people," says Iraqi soccer coach Adnan Hamad. "They are with what America has done in Iraq: destroy everything. The American army has killed so many people in Iraq. What is freedom when I go to the stadium and there are shootings on the road?"

At a speech in Beaverton, Ore., last Friday, Bush attached himself to the Iraqi soccer team after its opening-game upset of Portugal. "The image of the Iraqi soccer team playing in this Olympics, it's fantastic, isn't it?" Bush said. "It wouldn't have been free if the United States had not acted."

[iconoclastic cat]

1. Maybe the adults might deserve 4 more Shrub years for their torpor.

But my future children did nothing to deserve Bush. Or his fascism.

[Dhalgren]

2. In November, the United States is going to tell the world

just what kind of country it is. I cannot guess which way it will go. If Bush wins, we all have to decide what it is we will do - individually and collectively. If that happens the country is finished and we will have to make decisions, lots of them.

[Stew225]

3. when close to half our country is complicit

in allowing this to happen then, yeah, the country would indeed deserve its fate.

[joanne]

4. I just will not allow myself to think of 4 more years of Dumbya

Too awful to think about. :-(

[AndyTiedye]

5. If We Get Robbed Again, Does That Mean We Deserved to be Robbed?

Does the convenience store on the corner of 98th and whatever
deserve to be held up every weekend?
OBVIOUSLY NOT!
Do we deserve to get our votes stolen again, OF COURSE NOT!

They are going to try to steal another national election.
We are trying to stop them.
We may not succeed, but whatever happens
we don't DESERVE these assholes and neither does the rest of the world.

[Dhalgren]

7. If they rob us again, and again we do nothing,

then we will be no better than those who drink the cool-aid and praise the cretin.

[AndyTiedye]

10. "Do Nothing"?? We Have Been Doing Everything We Can

We have been protesting, calling our Congresscritters, raising money
for the Democrats like never before, not to mention organizing all of
this from nothing. And did I mention protesting? We have had the
most and biggest protests since Vietnam. None of Bush*'s administration
can show their faces in public anymore without being boooooooooooooooed
and protested. This started with his inaugration, where his limousine
was pelted with eggs. That's why they only appear in private gatherings,
with audiences carefully vetted to assure only adoring supporters.

Our shock at the theft of the election turned into a groundswell of anger
and within a few months had gotten to the point where they had to MIHOP
to get the dogs off them. Investigations into the Florida debacle
were already underway, as well as embarassing probes into Cheney's
dealings with the energy companies.
If 9/11 had not happened, Bush* and Cheney would have been impeached
and be in jail by now.

If we are defeated, yet again, not in an election but in some back-room
brawl that prevents the votes from being counted, please
do not add insult to injury by saying that "we deserved it", or that
we are just as bad as the thugs who stole our country from us.

[Dhalgren]

11. And if the next election is stolen as well,

then all of our peaceful efforts will be for naught. What is our course of action if we know that everything we have done so far hasn't worked?

[AndyTiedye]

12. Then We're Screwed. This is Our Last Chance.

Any response that is NOT peaceful will backfire horribly.
It would do is provide a pretext to brand everyone opposed to the regime as "terrorists".
If anything significantly destabilizes the regime, the Talibornagain militias
are poised to move in and take over like the Bolsheviks in Russia after
the popular uprising overthrew the Tsar.

[newsguyatl]

6. i absolutely agree....

note my sig.

[flordehinojos]

8. Dear Mayberry Machiavelli, saddest even is the possibility that

as a country we may all really and truly send dubya out back to pasture in crawford==> but that no-paper-trail voting machines; absentee ballots that, while providing paper trails, cannot be trusted to show up in supervisor of elections' offices to be counted because of whatever excuse the republicans want to make up, and that whatever other Bush methods of stealings elections... all function to steal the elections ... so that, while, in short, we may all be doing the right thing for this country and for one another by voting bush out office ...the bush hydra may snuff our truly elected president, JOhn Kerry, out from us again, like it did with Al Gore, and again install itself as the most cancerous regime these United States has ever had to contend with. It is not that we wouldn't have done our job. It is that Repressive regimes are so difficult to overthrow!
:-(

[shraby]

9. The election is well on the way to be stolen.

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