Are they priming us for a really bloody siege ?

[The_Casual_Observer]

This CIA memo, the claim of "Foreign Fighters" --- is it intended to get us used to the idea that we are really going to have to do whatever it takes "to finish this thing". And what happens after a horrible siege when it doesn't "finish the thing" ????

[mirandaod]

1. Frightening thought - whatever it takes.

I know this criminal administration is capable of anything. No WMD is off the table.

[izzie]

2. I think it would be a big error

It is a fight we can not win. It will just pop up some place else and we can not take over the whole Middle East and the rest of that religion in the world. Face it, 5% of the worlds pop. can not take down billions of the worlds pop. even with a good military. We could not bring down Nam with 200,000 men when they had 2 million with just hand guns. It can not be done.

[JohnnyRingo]

3. Our Military has "retreated" ..... To the geographical center of Iraq.

With our soldiers standing back to back....I fear the worst.

Who started this mess, anyway?

[liberalnurse]

4. If *bush gets elected....he will drop the big one.

The only thing that would prevent him from doing this would be the oil procurement......if he couldn't get the oil then he may not.....human life never comes into the equation.

[aquart]

5. Oh, dear.

Let's see. Siege. Ten thousand of us? Twenty? Thirty? Against how many of them? To finish it, what? Ten million dead? Maybe George could put Hitler to shame.

People would pour over the borders. They would receive help from every Iraqi they passed. We would be harassed and attacked from the rear as we tried to do what? Starve out a city? Yeah.

The Middle East would erupt in rage. Europe would erupt. Turkey would have screaming fits. China would laugh itself silly. And look hard at Taiwan. Because we wouldn't be able to stop them.

Here at home the women in black and Code Pink would have vigils in every town square.

Americans don't like to think of themselves as the Nazis at Stalingrad.

But go ahead, Georgie.

Massive American casualties would be a fine October surprise.

[reprobate]

7. aquart, please don't compare bush to hitler.

After all, hitler *was* a decora ted war hero in WWI. What combat decorations was bush awarded?

[DivinBreuvage]

6. Pure stupidity!

Right wing thugs, bullies, and morons have used this argument a billion times. Some dumb-ass was screaming it at a local radio host this morning. They think everything in Iraq would change if the US army were allowed to "fight a real war" or "do whatever it takes to win". The ridiculous poltroon on the radio this morning actually mentioned the firebombing of Dresden as an example of how real wars need to be fought.

Sure, fine. That kind of approach works nicely when you're dealing with small stone age groups that can be shot, starved and infected out of existence; and it works okay when you're dealing with an authoritarian culture like Germany or Japan that has exhausted its ability to defend the current supremo and doesn't have a great deal of philosophical difficulty submitting to a new supremo. But it's not going to work in Iraq, you morons, because there are way too many people there, they don't like us, they don't accept us, and they won't have us there, and they actually have the means to fight back and are obviously willing to do so!

I'm sure you want the US to be more brutal than the Nazis, but do you really think we can be? Shall we drop all pretense and turn Iraq into the slaughterhouse of the East? How well did that technique work for the Nazis? They were swallowed up and destroyed by their own machine. Read a history book for heaven's sake; Iraq is a war of attrition and the US has the smaller purse.

[reprobate]

8. Some of us predicted this over a year ago.Winning an insurgent...

....war is impossible when the population supports the insurgency.