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Thu Sep-30-04 02:55 PM
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| LOL! I was just arguing with a wingnut and I asked |
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him where most of the 9/11 hijackers came from. He said, "The Al Qaeda training camps in Iraq." This guy has a masters degree in environmental science. Americans are stupid these days.
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Thu Sep-30-04 02:56 PM
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| 1. Damn, I'd have been ready to slug the ignorant bastard |
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And then I'd point to the "How to debate a liberal" email that promoted such tactics if / when he complained about the imprint on his face shaped like my fist.
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Thu Sep-30-04 02:57 PM
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I recently had an argument with a nutjob who said "Our soldiers are fighting al Queda from other countries in Iraq, not Iraqi's." Then when I laugh and mock him as a Dittohead, he insists he listens to a variety of news sources. Uh huh.
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Thu Sep-30-04 02:59 PM
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So, did you attempt to educate him ? (i.e. hijackers = Saudi; AQ camps = Afghanistan; Zarqawi = US-protected Kurdish region)
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King Coal
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:00 PM
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| 4. When I stopped laughing. He is hopeless though. |
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:03 PM
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| 5. forgot where I found this but.. |
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As the nation prepares to watch the presidential candidates debate foreign policy issues, a new PIPA-Knowledge Networks poll finds that Americans who plan to vote for President Bush have many incorrect assumptions about his foreign policy positions. Kerry supporters, on the other hand, are largely accurate in their assessments. The uncommitted also tend to misperceive Bush's positions, though to a smaller extent than Bush supporters, and to perceive Kerry's positions correctly. Steven Kull, director of PIPA, comments: "What is striking is that even after nearly four years President Bush's foreign policy positions are so widely misread, while Senator Kerry, who is relatively new to the public and reputed to be unclear about his positions, is read correctly." Majorities of Bush supporters incorrectly assumed that Bush favors including labor and environmental standards in trade agreements (84%), and the US being part of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (69%), the International Criminal Court (66%), the treaty banning land mines (72%), and the Kyoto Treaty on global warming (51%). They were divided between those who knew that Bush favors building a new missile defense system now (44%) and those who incorrectly believe he wishes to do more research until its capabilities are proven (41%). However, majorities were correct that Bush favors increased defense spending (57%) and wants the US, not the UN, to take the stronger role in developing Iraq's new government (70%).
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:52 PM
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| 17. Thanks for the info. It's nice to see studies confirming... |
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Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 03:55 PM by krkaufman
... what we suspect. Bush followers are largely damaged. See here for the study you referenced... http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_9_29_04.html
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:05 PM
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| 6. A wingnut with a masters in environmental science??? |
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:07 PM
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| 8. A hamburger with a hot dog bun |
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:34 PM
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| 12. Is he one of those environmentalists who doesn't believe in global warming |
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Fri Oct-01-04 02:19 PM
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His job is to keep the company in compliance. It has little to do with his politics.
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:06 PM
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someone posted on a totally non-political board I belong to the other day that Kerry could not win because he's a Catholic and only one other Catholic has been elected president (the first JFK). Then the wingnut says, "Americans prefer to vote for Christians instead of Catholics." That's the mentality of your average * voter, my friends.
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:49 PM
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at least we're safe from Jeb, then! Converted to Catholicism, he did. Which probably helps explain why * has left that attack angle alone.
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:11 PM
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| 9. LOL...Yeah,and those camps are where SH was hiding WMD.n/t |
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:16 PM
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| 10. I have heard this over and over and over again! |
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A freeper on another board I frequent didn't believe me when I noted that none of the 9/11 terrorists were from Iraq. She demanded proof. I provided it but it was like offering proof to the wall.
Whenever the issue of the war comes up, she and her fellow freepers start in with the "terrorists in Iraq started this so we have to retaliate."
Maybe people should have to take a current events quiz before being allowed to vote. I'm joking of course. But it's nice to dream....
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Fri Oct-01-04 02:30 PM
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| 19. That argument drives me insane... "show me proof" |
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After doing so, the argument immediately changes to the validity of whatever news source you've quoted. They don't want to hear the truth... they like their bubble.
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:29 PM
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| 11. Another "legacy enrollment" no doubt. |
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The country is run by them.
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:39 PM
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| 13. I had no idea Bob Jones University had an environmental science program! |
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:40 PM
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| 14. Wow. To think that the fate of our country is in their hands. |
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Thu Sep-30-04 03:42 PM
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| 15. there was a show on PBS before the war started |
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that showed the training camps in Iraq. I thought it was a documentary at first. Perle and Wolfowicz were on it at the end. There were Iraq dissidents who escaped the country and were professing they saw these camps, drew pictures of their layouts, etc. This program was on probably 10 times that I know of. All of it lies of course, but it was done by the "Frontline" people and anyone with an open mind had to give it some thought, if not credence.
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