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xequals (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 08:53 AM Original message |
The Peterson case makes me wonder about liberty and justice. |
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ObaMania (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. I just wouldn't have wanted that.. |
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ohioliberal (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 08:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Really! she was frightful |
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momzno1 (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 08:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. She was scary |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That and the fact that they didn't feel he showed enough emotion led |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. His lack of emotion was used as an aggravating factor in the penalty phase |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Because of her appearance? |
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ObaMania (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
70. Appearance, disposition, and the horribly lame answers she gave.. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. There was plenty of evidence. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
34. No eyewitness, no murder weapon, no DNA. |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Ever hear of circumstantial evidence? |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I think that is the point. |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I don't think so. Read up on this some more. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. Conviction is not necessarily the question. |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I won't argue with you on that. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:13 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Really? |
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MostlyLurks (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. H2O Man: |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. It's a tactic |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. The standard for sentencing someone to death is left to the states |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. The "standards" |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Tons of Circumstantial Evidence |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #34 |
58. What you are missing |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. See post above regarding the distinction between conviction |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. I did. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
84. I don't think that this is true: |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
85. Regarding the "crime he was accused of", |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. While the circumstantial evidence suggests that Peterson |
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xequals (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
67. I'm morally neutrally and not concerned with meanness vs kindness |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 06:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
90. That mistake is a matter of one not getting the entire picture. |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
6. What I find amazing |
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Solitaire (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
9. I felt like you, until... |
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cybildisobedience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
10. excellent post |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #10 |
48. I Don't Hate Him |
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Sara Beverley (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
11. I believe he is guilty but NOT PROVEN quilty. A travesty of the justice |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
13. There was plenty of evidence, it was all circumstantial. |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. yes, but there are two types of circumstantial evidence... |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
43. I would question that it's WEAK, but it's evidence nonetheless. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Seriously, Do You Know the Evidence? |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Are you asking me this question? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:47 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Sorry! |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. I disagree...I admit the prosecution is *hyping* that it was strong.. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. There WAS Some of This Evidence |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. the only physical evidence of lacey on the boat was some of her hair on a |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Perhaps she didn't bleed. Not all manner of death entails bleeding. n/t |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. She could have been |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
45. Thank You! |
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quaoar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
14. I was a reporter for many years |
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naryaquid (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
15. .....Guess what?....I agree with you regarding the Peterson case, |
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utahgirl (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
16. I have to wonder |
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Solitaire (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I agree with you, utahgirl... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
50. Manson DID Get the Death Penalty |
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Solitaire (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. then why are they up for parole, every 4 years?? n/t |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Supreme Court Overturned The Death Penalty Nationwide In 70's |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. They Weren't retried |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
82. that is what the prosecution claimed in the Sam Shepard murder case as |
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M155Y_A1CH (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
18. The burden of proof .... |
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MostlyLurks (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
19. Most evidence is circumstantial. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Huh? |
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MostlyLurks (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Physical evidence can be circumstantial. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 10:23 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Fair Enough |
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MostlyLurks (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Take a look at the other two links I provided on edit. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. You're Making MY Point! |
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MostlyLurks (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Well, OK then |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I Understood That! |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 10:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Considering all the reports one hears about how unreliable |
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MostlyLurks (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. And, when you come right down to it... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
56. Appeals |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
53. Mostly Lurks Is Right |
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xequals (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
37. I don't at all doubt the validity of circumstantial evidence, |
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MostlyLurks (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I agree with all that. |
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xequals (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #41 |
52. I wasn't referring specifically to those who watch the reality genre of TV |
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MostlyLurks (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. And I wasn't really upset. No offense taken. :^) |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
20. I hate the tabloidization of trials.. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
23. I was sickened when I heard the crowd outside cheered. |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
24. I agree...this case had only WEAK circumstantial evidence that SP |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
76. The Jurors |
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ScaRBama (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
27. You ever notice.... |
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MostlyLurks (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. As usual, look to "The Onion" for truth. |
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Minnesota_Lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Only two burning questions remain about the Peterson case in the MSM…. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
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MostlyLurks (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Not so sure that gives you high ground. What's your point? n/t |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
49. If justice is lost.... |
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xequals (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Yes. There are few things that separate us from totalitarianism, |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
55. When you have a clever crook, it doesn't always take a bloody knife to |
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dbfl33040 (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
63. stone cold GUILTY |
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samtob (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. What I found interesting during the trial |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
81. Well, I am one |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
79. Another media lynching. |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
86. Can we PLEASE stop discussing this trash on DU? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Why dont you let people discuss what they want? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
87. In our country today, there is no liberty and there is no justice. |
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