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emad
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:19 AM Original message |
"Prophet Mohammed was a paedohile": Freedom of speech in UK?? |
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emad
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. No official mainstream retraction has ever been published by |
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RUDUing2
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. only if okay if christians have no objections to St. Joseph being called |
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barbaraann
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I disagree. |
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emad
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. A 13/14 year old is an adolescent. A 9 year old is invariably |
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barbaraann
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yes. Marrying a nine year old is just wrong. |
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emad
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Sharing a husband in the name of religion is sex abuse in any |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Dec-15-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Katherine of Aragon was betrothed to Henry VIII's brother at age 4 |
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Dorian Gray
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Wed Dec-15-04 06:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
45. There is a difference between |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
62. Betrothals during that period were as legally binding as a marriage n/t |
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Dorian Gray
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Fri Dec-17-04 12:41 AM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Yes, they were... |
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Ms. Clio
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Fri Dec-17-04 03:30 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Yes, I did say that already |
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RUDUing2
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. I know it is tempting to try and view the past from the understanding |
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TyeDye75
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
80. Modern and historical values |
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elehhhhna
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. No, that would make God a pedophiel & Joseph a cuckold. |
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RUDUing2
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. wow wouldn't that cause a firestorm!....but it does give some needed |
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muriel_volestrangler
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Wed Dec-15-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. She was betrothed at 6, married at 15 |
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Johonny
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Wed Dec-15-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
50. Best guess? |
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JVS
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
52. He never fucked her |
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cliss
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
5. My humble take on this: |
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emad
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Good point especially when seen in the context of the US sex |
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RUDUing2
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. just to point out that the RCC is not the only one w/these scandals.. |
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Dorian Gray
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Wed Dec-15-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
47. I believe |
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RUDUing2
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Thu Dec-16-04 08:38 AM Response to Reply #47 |
69. I completely agree...my response is because so many seem to |
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Dorian Gray
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Fri Dec-17-04 12:47 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. It's interesting... |
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tx_dem41
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Your post ...condensed |
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Bridget Burke
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Muslims do not worship Mohammed. |
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tx_dem41
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Point taken on the "worship" comment.... |
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Bridget Burke
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. The only "evidence" I presented is from Molly Ivins. |
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TO Kid
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. All of the sources are Islamic |
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theboss
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
15. Freedom of speech should be absolute |
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RPM
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
17. can you say fatwa? |
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sweetheart
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
19. The telegraph is a conservative rag trying to stir up trouble |
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tx_dem41
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I don't understand what you are implying.... |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Dec-15-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. No, it's really about spreading offensive, lying propaganda |
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tx_dem41
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. So, should freedom of speech in the US be restricted to speech... |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. See how far you get in this country putting up a Nazi swastika |
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TO Kid
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Are you saying that Islamic scripture is lying propaganda? |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I'm saying the interpretation of the alleged behavior is lying propaganda |
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DrWeird
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Wed Dec-15-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Technically, it's in the Quran. |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
64. I don't think it's in the Quran--it's in the Hadiths |
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Quill Pen
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Wed Dec-15-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. Intolerance and hatred seems to be OK... |
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sweetheart
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Wed Dec-15-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. How about british editors stick a sock in it |
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Quill Pen
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. So your choice is either violence or the government censors the press? |
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sweetheart
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. And your response is to make glib comments from 5000 miles off |
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Quill Pen
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Thu Dec-16-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. "Pay in blood for these bad decisions..." |
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sweetheart
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Fri Dec-17-04 12:12 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. What is the truth |
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Dorian Gray
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Fri Dec-17-04 12:59 AM Response to Reply #59 |
75. Look, |
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sweetheart
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Fri Dec-17-04 01:23 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. indeed |
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InvisibleBallots
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:29 AM Response to Reply #55 |
79. how is this different than what is said here on DU |
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sweetheart
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Fri Dec-17-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Paid print mainstream journalism vs. private blogging |
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Forkboy
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
20. People should have the right to say whatever idiotic thing they want |
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drdon326
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Yeah......look. |
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Forkboy
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Or they could go look at any of your posts in I/P |
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Trajan
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Wed Dec-15-04 06:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
46. Hell yeah .... |
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seaofcrisis
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. couple of quick points |
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Forkboy
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The poster who first replied to me would be the best example of this |
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muriel_volestrangler
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Wed Dec-15-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Here's a link to the current American medical definition of paedophilia |
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TO Kid
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
87. Okay, maybe not paedophile |
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UdoKier
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. He was also a warrior who spread his religion through force. |
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Solon
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
56. Jesus? A man of Peace? |
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UdoKier
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. His body count was much lower. |
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Solon
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Actually, we don't know... |
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DrWeird
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. He did push a little kid off a building. |
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Solon
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Oh yeah, we forgot about all those apocrypha gospels... |
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Malikshah
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
63. And we know this how??? |
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TO Kid
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #63 |
90. Look at what they brag about |
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Malikshah
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Uh...sorry--don't know where you're getting your information from |
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Ms. Clio
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. He gets his information from trusted news sources like Asia News |
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Well what's interesting is that I googled Mohammed Haddiths Aisha |
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Ya sure yourself |
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Cleita
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
37. Marrying off girls as young as eight or nine isn't that |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. In medieval Europe, the age of consent was seven |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Wed Dec-15-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. its not unusual in any society |
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Wed Dec-15-04 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
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DrWeird
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. You're implying the west has values to teach. |
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Yes of course |
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DrWeird
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Always cracks me up. |
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Fescue4u
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Who's talking about homosexuals? |
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Ms. Clio
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. And what makes you think "the east" doesn't? |
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DrWeird
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Amazing, isn't it? |
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Fescue4u
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I certainly don't |
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TO Kid
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #53 |
86. Actually, so does the east |
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emad
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Thu Dec-16-04 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
70. Latest update on Charles Moore, ex-Telegraph editor, staunch |
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #70 |
82. What's this info from? link? source? it's interesting. |
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fujiyama
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Fri Dec-17-04 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
76. I'm not very impressed |
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TO Kid
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:04 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. In Islam, criticism is punishable by torture & death |
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #83 |
88. I have read the Koran |
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TO Kid
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. 1000 at most? |
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ck4829
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. It is appalling, but both the Bible and Koran may be making things up... |
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:20 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. The US equivalent, given history and social circumstances would be: |
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TO Kid
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:27 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. If you think that such an article could incite violence |
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sweetheart
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:39 AM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Religious history and war |
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TO Kid
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Fri Dec-17-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. They glorify it |
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sweetheart
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Fri Dec-17-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Who is "they" |
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TO Kid
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Fri Dec-17-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. "They" are the founders of Islam |
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Ms. Clio
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Do you ever read the Old Testament? |
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Fri Dec-17-04 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
94. Ah, the Telegraph, longtime home to Muslim-bating. |
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