Question about John Kerry.

[Sannum]

I was looking at some photos of him earlier and I have noticed that he, very often puts his hands together and then his fist in his palm. Does this mean anything or is it just a nervous habit?

Very daft question, I know:7

[Straight Shooter]

1. I never noticed the gesture of a fist in the palm. That's interesting.

Putting the hands together, palms touching, is a typical gesture of an "expert" when he or she is discussing a subject. It is also a subconscious manifestation of sincerity.

Try saying something you believe to be true about something that matters to you, and then say it again with your hands together, palms touching. Feel the difference?

I did notice that John Kerry would raise his fist when the crowds got exuberant, but that's such a normal gesture that I can't make anything of it. We all do it when we're cheering for a team, or a lot of us do, anyway.

As for the gesture of the fist in the palm, I have no idea. Ready to fight and blocking the energy deliberately is the first thing that comes to mind, though.

[illflem]

2. fist in the palm

is a hockey referee hand signal for penalty checking into the wall. Maybe he was signaling this at bush.

[cestpaspossible]

3. lol

[newyawker99]

4. Hi cestpaspossible!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Pachamama]

5. Never noticed "the fist in palm", but he always does the Namaste gesture

Namaste...John Kerry smiled at me when I mentioned that I noticed he does that...we then did the Namaste gesture to one another...

He should be our president....he would have brought peace...I firmly believe that...

[IndyOp]

7. You may not appreciate my saying so, but

He could still be our president. I am fighting the election fraud battle because I believe that he could bring peace -- real, lasting peace. Because of this, all who get their power from war had to steal the election out from under him/us.

By the way, I really like the interpretation of fist in hand as holding in power -- that just sounds right to me.

Namaste.

[JI7]

8. that's so sweet

i love it when he does that. it looked familiar but i wasn't sure what it was. he has a good understanding of different cultures.

[Pachamama]

10. Isn't it? It's quite wonderful really...it means "I bow to you"...

...the first time I noticed it, I kept watching for it, and sure enough, he continued to do it at every speaking engagement. Then I had the opportunity to see him several times in person and actually meet him....same thing, did it each time...so when I had the opportunity to actually talk with him, I said Namaste to him and he did to....Yes, is familiar with different cultures, religions and he is a peaceful man....many who saw him speak never realized this, but he was honoring the people and bowing to them and their souls and essence....a very humble, and meaningful gesture....

[zann725]

25. I truly believe he's a very 'old soul.' Would be such an honor

to have him as our Leader.

[zann725]

24. He still MAY! Keep the faith!

n/t

[corbett]

6. Against The Simian Swagger, Kerry Looks Like A True Statesman

Living through live fire zones in Indian territory tends to give a person a very confident gait. Take a look at the photo of him on this page and you'll see what I mean:

http://www.breakfornews.com/articles/KerryPreparingGroundsToUnconcede.htm

[Is It Fascism Yet]

9. yeah, yeah, kerry, kerry, but i am betrayed, why did he lay down and

play dead before the counting was even over? was it a skull and bones sellout? we will never know. it was a thrown fight, it looked as if he ran only so he could be in control of the sell out.

[Pachamama]

11. Did he lay down? Did he betray us? Did he sell out?

I don't believe he did...I don't believe a man who has fought for this country all his life would do that...and being that I looked that man in the eyes and have spoken with him for about 10 minutes including about what this election was about (our children), I do not believe for a moment he sold us out or betrayed us. I haven't given up on him. Maybe I'm in denial, maybe I will eventually question my intuition and judgement of people, but both my intuition and judgement of people have yet to be wrong....I guess time will tell, eh?

[njdemocrat106]

12. I'm still a Kerry fan

If any of the other primary candidates were in the same position, they'd probably do what Kerry did on November 3 and a whole bunch of us here would be bad-mouthing him. Kerry was my first choice during the primaries, and I'll continue to stick by him, and let's face it, ANY of the Democratic primary candidates would be a better president than the chimp we're stuck with now.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

17. well, yeah, but I don't think ANY of the candidates would have conceded

not before the votes were counted, I don't think Dean, Nadar, Kucinich or Clark or Mosely Braun would have just laid down on Nov 3. Not unless someone really capable threatened their families. Something is fishy in Denmark. I am not badmouthing Kerry, I am just saying he may have been caught in some insidious stranglehold. Don't forget Bush&Company have people run off the road regularly, and erased from existence in various ways. Gary Webb, in California, an investigative reporter doing a story on the pentagon, unexpectedly up and committed suicide a few weeks ago. I think he was 43 years old. Nobody even knew he was depressed. Funny thing about his suicide is that he shot himself in the head...several times. Interesting that they still want to call it suicide and close the case. So, really, I have to wonder what made Kerry rush to lay down, I mean, come on, the polls weren't even closed 24 hours yet! And the exit polling was all Kerry! Don't forget "Shrub The Elder/Smarter" was director of the CIA since Hector was a pup. It is widely conceded that this administration has blackmailed and threatened members of congress and the senate, and you know, they tried really hard not to lose this election, they really wanted all the bases covered. Maybe they offered to fix the breaks on the Kerry family car. I just don't know. I wouldn't put it past them, these are all still the same perdiferous bunch of treacherous people who shot Kennedy. I mean, think about it, where was Shrub the Elder/Smarter when Kennedy was shot? Why are those records to remain sealed another 35 years? The only possible reason for the records to remain sealed is to give the prepetrators of that crime time to finish their lives before their guilt is revealed. So, the fact of the continuing government coverup of the Kennedy assination is proof positive that those who coluded in that assination are STILL IN POWER. Then again, what is that with the Skull and Bones thing? Should all our presidents belong to secret societies that we don't belong to? Societies we are not invited to belong to? Secret societies to whom they have sworn secret oaths? I don't know about that, that's a problem, for one thing, it's elitist. Everybody who belongs to Skull and Bones invariably becomes "Owner Class" and nearly all of our presidents are "Skull and Bones" which means we are being ruled by the Owner Class, instead of By The People Of The People and For The People, a forgotten mantra.

[idiosyncratic]

21. Psst . . . could you use a few paragraphs when you write?

I'm sorry, I would like to read what you write, but I have a hard time following that much text all run together.

Could you use some paragraph breaks?

TIA

[LittleClarkie]

19. Thanks njdem

It's good to know I'm not alone. He's still my guy.

[LittleClarkie]

13. There was a time, not so long ago, conceeding was normal

and not a sign of cowardice.

I don't want to see our country rocked to its foundations, and I don't think Kerry does either, esp. not with soldiers in the field who would be hurt by governmental instability.

What he's doing now is exactly what he said he would do: making sure the votes get counted. I am not buying into the hidden message idea. If it would hurt this country, John Kerry, who is a true patriot, wouldn't do it.

He has been, and will continue to do, what he can to help. But he must remain politically alive or his post in the Senate will mean nothing when it comes to fighting the Bush agenda.

[Pachamama]

14. It will be interesting to see what he does on Jan. 6th - I personally

hope that he will be a Senator that will back the Black Congressional Caucus in a challenge of the election....I think he will...if not, maybe I was wrong about him...I do believe he is doing what he thinks is best for the country, but I also hope he realizes the country needs him to fight too...it will be an interesting day....

[LittleClarkie]

15. Perhaps if he does it as part of a large group it might be okay

I'm not sure having the candidate back the caucus himself would be such good form. He is acting in court. I don't think Jan 6th should be seen as a watershed moment for him in particular. If he ceased all activity fraud-wise that might be distressing. But I don't expect him to do that.

I'm actually not putting any strings on him. I've seen him act for others even when few were looking. I'd rather not second-guess his actions. I don't know what he knows about the situation. I'm just an observer.

If he were a Senator who was not the candidate, THEN I'd expect him to stand up this time, esp. after 2000. But not this time.

[sandnsea]

20. Exactly

His conceding is because he is strong enough to even be labeled a coward, and STILL do the right thing in getting the votes counted and getting the election investigated. It's just sad people don't see how much true courage and grace under fire this man exhibits, time and time again.

[eridani]

22. There was a time long ago--

--when all voting was done on auditable paper ballots.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

16. yeah, but, sadly, time has already told for shrubs coronation cometh n/t

[zann725]

26. Thank you. I share your 'belief' in him...and am willing to wait...

with hope!

[Name removed]

18. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[manic expression]

23. I think...

that the fist in the palm is a gesture in China. When the palm is laid over the top of the fist, it means respect (much like the namaste gesture of India). When the palm is straight (diagonally over the fist), it is usually done as a request for a fight.
Hope that makes sense and helps.