Is it normal to hate freepers so much?

[saracat]

Everytime I link to their site, if someone on Du links to it, I become outraged! If I didn''t oppose the death penalty, I would think it too good for them. These people are not even human. They just harden my belief that they must be destroyed (politically) like the parasites they are! Grrr!

[Downtown Hound]

1. Yep

It shows you are a healthy human being. They aren't. But don't let the hatred consume you too much. Find things to channel it into so it doesn't damage you spiritually and physically.

[New Earth]

2. rather than hating them

i find it more fun to detect them when they 'infiltrate' this forum :hi:

[maddiejoan]

5. detection

By spelling, grammar and syntax?

[New Earth]

7. none of the above

i'm sure plenty of them can spell fine, and i'm sure plenty of DU'ers have trouble spelling.

I will not reveal what i've found to be the 'dead give away'. there's a few factors, actually. :hi:

[seito]

13. Come on Faye

We all know you own one of theese



The patented 'Freep Detector'

[New Earth]

14. lmao

[keepthemhonest]

30. very funny seito

I see a resemblence to faye there.

she is good at spotting them.

my question is how do you get the darn things tombstoned when they seemingly follow the DU rules.

[foo_bar]

73. a Mets fan in Brooklyn?

:tinfoilhat:

:D

[saracat]

6. That is true! Giggle....

[sam sarrha]

3. Yes, but counter productive... love and forgive the ignorant shits

[Nikepallas]

4. Absolutely...Proves you have a heart and mind

[spotbird]

8. They are more deserving of pitty. nt

[phaseolus]

9. funny thing is...

...when I meet people like that in person, I like 'em just fine, and they like me as far as I can tell. Quite a bit different from encountering 'em online.

I think the whole hate thing is just another one of those artifacts of communicating via computer, kinda like how what would ordinarily be a calm face-to-face discussion, when you put it in an online context usually turns into a flame war.

[mattclearing]

10. No, it isn't. They are crazy, and deserve our sympathy, not our hatred.

:evilgrin: :evilgrin:

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke::puke: :puke:

[Erika]

11. They frustrate and anger me also

because their ignorance is hurting/destroying this country and its citizens. They are ill informed and sheeple in nature.

Then I think of kindergateners. We don't ask them to be responsible and thinking adults. They just don't have it in them either.

There is always hope!

[keepthemhonest]

12. Is it just me or do

there seem to be a hell alot of them right now?

[New Earth]

15. as a matter of fact

YES. there are so many my eyes feel like this :crazy:

[keepthemhonest]

19. well they make me feel like doing this

and then this

of course

HOW LONG CAN THEY HIDE IT?

[pacalo]

17. I think it's just an illusion there are more

because they've gotten louder, thinking they have a mandate because their corrupt role model stole the election. What they need to know is that WhatsHisFace has only a 48-49% approval rating, which is more than likely the same percentage of votes he actually got.

[saracat]

21. Yup. They are everywhere. Go Get 'em!!

:spank:

[keepthemhonest]

25. sounds good

now how do we beat them?

[jdots]

16. Pay no attention to them

They are impotant maggots searching for a crumb tossed to them by thier cowardly leaders who enslave them with ignorant
mass hysteria.They will start getting some clues shortly when whatever employment they have gets outsorced and they become who they pick on.
I hate them too ,but picking on the mentally retarded is cruel.

[genieroze]

18. The mentally retarded can't help it, they chose to be a moron. eom

edited to correct moron from morons even though the spell checker missed it. lol

[femme.democratique]

23. You mean morans? eom

[genieroze]

31. What's a moran?

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=moran

1 entry found for moran.

moran, KS (city, FIPS 48125)
Location: 37.91613 N, 95.17046 W
Population (1990): 551 (258 housing units)
Area: 1.1 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water)
Zip code(s): 66755
moran, MI
Zip code(s): 49760
moran, TX (city, FIPS 49320)
Location: 32.54678 N, 99.16560 W
Population (1990): 285 (150 housing units)
Area: 1.1 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water)
Zip code(s): 76464
moran, WY
Zip code(s): 83013

[femme.democratique]

38. LoL its just a common misspelling of "moron" eom

[saracat]

48. Well actually its a DU joke about a Freeper photo we used to use and

to show the "smarts" of the freepers we used to post the pix and make fun of the spelling!

[femme.democratique]

55. Cool, EVEN BETTER! lol ........ eom

[McCamy Taylor]

24. They WANT you to hate them. Growing up the only attention they got

was negative attention, so they have learned to prove their own existence by angering and alienating others. They think the alternative is to be left sobbing in their poopy diapers all alone in a darkened room somewhere. What they really want but will not admit they want, is unconditional love.

The GOP doesnt give them unconditional love. It places very many conditions on its approval, and the Freepers try very hard to be worthy of their Masters. But what they still want is for someone to give them a great big


HUG :hug:

without any strings attached.

[dreamcollector]

20. They are just very very immature

very uneducated, and angry, bewildered and hurt. Try to love them and keep them all south of the border. We don't have such a virulent strain of these yahoos in Canada yet and we don't want 'em. Keep 'em but be kind to them. They need a whole lot of lovin'.

[genieroze]

22. L@@K !!!!!! I have a idea. !!!!!!

Rather then delete the freeper post, they should just pull it's posting privileges. Then we can keep on responding and the freeper can't fight back. That would really piss them off. heheheh

:evilgrin:

edited to add L@@K

[Chimpanzee]

26. You're completely normal

[Patsy Stone]

27. Yes

That's all I'm sayin'... :)

You can tell when we're off and running, arguing and wasting time on the possibilities or the perceptions of unsubstantiated "facts," that we've been sent into a tizzy by them.

Maybe like now-ish around this forum. How many threads are arguing simultaneously about the possibilities of Senators standing? I've lost count.

There are always some that live to instigate. I just don't go there, and I ignore them here -- and I always laugh at them.

Peace! NGU.

[bunny planet]

28. Oh yes, it is perfectly normal.

They make me want to take up smoking again. They get me fuming mad!

[kiraboo]

33. My life isn't what it was

...before the election. I find myself judging everybody according to their politics, and republicans no longer appear benign. I am constantly analyzing my new bias: are these people truly as stupid/ignorant/blind as I believe them to be? Was my perception different before I learned they voted for the chimp? Is it possible to truly respect a repug? How much of this is my own weakness?

[bunny planet]

41. Welcome to DU Kiraboo!!!

:hi:

[Chimpanzee]

29. The rules state:

WHO IS WELCOME ON DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND, AND WHO IS NOT

We welcome Democrats of all stripes, along with other progressives who will work with us to achieve our shared goals.

This is a "big tent" message board. We welcome a wide range of progressive opinion. You will likely encounter many points of view here that you disagree with.

We ban conservative disruptors who are opposed to the broad goals of this website. If you think overall that George W. Bush is doing a swell job, or if you wish to see Republicans win, or if you are generally supportive of conservative ideals, please do not register to post, as you will likely be banned.

---------------------------------------------
What I don't understand is how the moderator can allow these people to disrupt all our threads, when the should be banned. If you dare to say anything liberal or progressive over at Freeperville, you will be 'ZOT-ed' immediately. Why do we have to put up with this trash?

[keepthemhonest]

32. i don't get it either

but i do love bunny planet's smking smilie.Hee hee


argggh those freeps

[Vektor]

78. My friend visited Freepland...

...and she made a comment about the infamous "pool picture" of Kerry. The freeps had posted it and were making jokes about how his political career was "all wet", etc., you know, real clever stuff.

My friend said, "despite what one might think of his politics, he looks pretty cute in that picture.." or some harmless, neutral thing of that nature.

She was banned in seconds!

It was so funny.

[keepthemhonest]

34. so i can come in here and say

freeper,freeper,freeper,freeper,freeper,freeper,freeper as many times as I want as long as i don't call someone a freeper. Ok


Troll,troll,troll,troll,troll,troll, aahhhhh I feel better now.We should have a troll thread everyday where we acome in and yell our heads off about it and then maybe we can go out there and hopefully not slip and call them a freeper.

http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/fighting/1/fighting30

[corbett]

35. It's Normal Because They Are Unamerican!

No, I don't mean that in the McCarthyist sense. I mean it in the Jeffersonian sense. It's really difficult to be a patriot and tolerate them. That causes a schism which is difficult to ignore.

Don't Try!

[gdub]

36. I am coming to the conclusion

..that what we are experiencing today, among other things, is a poignant reminder that each of us, as human beings, has a capacity for both good and evil. Despite our best intentions, the results of our mind--the thoughts, beliefs, and emotions that comprise our personality--can be either positive or negative for ourselves and those around us, in our family, our community and the world.

How can religion--the fundamental human association with spirituality--become a force for good or evil in the world?

Hatred and anger are most certainly deceptive, delusional sentiments and, seemingly, oft harnessed by those wielding influence, religious and political, in order to exercise the will to power.

[bunny planet]

37. When I notice them on DU, I always tell them their frip is showing.

is that wrong?

[keepthemhonest]

51. no it is not wrong

or could we say trolling (like fishing?)

[keepthemhonest]

52. no it is not wrong

or could we say trolling (like fishing?)

[zimba]

39. I recently saw two very interesting movies,

one, the documentary "Tibet, Cry of the Snow Lion" and two (a very old movie) "Romero", the story of Archbishop Oscar Romero, the El Salvador bishop assassinated by death squads (who were trained in the US probably) and the torture and murder of Salvadorans. One thing struck me. In both of these instances you have some of the most truly godawful human rights abuses the human race has suffered in the last 50 years. And in both cases the victims practiced forgiving their abusers.

For me however, when I get around freeper types, all I can think is that these people are the backbone of the atrocities committed around the world and funded or aided by the US. I want to lash out and strangle the bastards. Then I think of the Buddhists in Tibet, and the Catholics in El Salvador, and King and Ghandi, and I try to raise myself above those hateful emotions, because it really isnt the way.

Then a few minutes later the good thoughts pass and Im back to hating again. Sigh.

[saracat]

40. In Catholic school the nuns told me the story of St. Maria Goretti , the

young school girl who was raped and murdered, She forgave her murdering rapist on her deathbed. I thought she was an idiot. I still do. Needless to say, this was the beginning of my departure from the Church!

[zimba]

42. That reminds me of something a priest said to me in

my Catholic school days. We were discussing forgiveness and I asked him if people like Hitler should be forgiven, and he said, "for a priest, yes." Then after a pause he added, "But whether God forgives them or roasts them in hell's eternal fire is another matter." Then he smiled.

[bunny planet]

43. Just speak French. That really gets them mad!!!

Try 'Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite' That'll get their goats.

Sorry I can't do the accent marks.

[New Earth]

44. can you believe

someone just asked me in a PM if i'm a freeper???? :wtf:

[bunny planet]

46. now that's reeeeeediculous.

That's crazy.

[keepthemhonest]

53. tell us who it is

it must be a freeper
or a wise ass DUer

[New Earth]

56. it's someone i always liked!

and i can't believe he (i think it's a he) would think such a thing. apparently its because i won't tell anyone what i think are the 'dead giveaways' for freepers posting here.

seriously, for anyone who has been here at least a month it shouldn't be hard to tell what the give aways are :hi:

[keepthemhonest]

68. gotta be just razzing you

that is ridiculus.

:hippie:

[KaliTracy]

45. don't hate-just ignore. focus on postive energy, not negative. jmo n/t

[zann725]

60. I agree. We can't prevail if we're 'drained' by their negativity.

Plus, I think that's one of the things I admired most about JK during the campaign...he really did not return the negative...except toward the end of the campaign. I know he was criticized for it, but it was NOT a matter of not fighting back...but choosing not to respond on their 'level.' In fact, during one of the debates, JK was asked if Shrub lied on one issue, and I remember being impressed when JK hesitated and said: "I prefer saying he's not been CANDID." I remember thinking, what class...what integrity.

[No Exit]

47. As with any peculiar natural (?) phenomenon, why not study them?

For example, look into the background of their leader. No--not that leader, I'm not talking about the Kennebunkport Kowboy. I'm talking about Jim Robinson. Supposedly he was once a democrat. Then he seems to have turned into one of those semi-angry-white-guy types. You know, the type who are always railing against "big government".

THEN he--or at least, his site--turned into a veritable altar of worship for George Wino Bush. And, just in case you didn't know, it's not just democrats who despise George W. Bush. There are many, many, many others. Those people left or were thrown out by Freeperland. Now Freeperland is nothing more than a receptacle for repuke-lican daily talking points.

Since people who prefer to think for themselves don't use or need talking points, the only people who remain at Freeperland are either people who don't talk politics (they just talk about non-political news), or people who are too stupid to think for themselves. That's why it's nowheresville.

[ebayfool]

49. No, it's not! The joints crawling with 'em, lately! Most of the dipsh*ts

don't even have enough sense to use a different user name than their freeper ones! Can't we just put a tattoo on 'em so it's easier to keep them downwind? How are we supposed to alert on them, do we push the button & whisper 'freep alert' - or do you have to provide a link or some other kind of substantiation (there's so many lately it would take all my actual comp time up)? Is flashing a gif at 'em the same as calling out? Can I just reach through the screen & give a little smack up the side of the head to send them on their way? Too out of line?

okay /rant off ... I'll be good now, I'm just tired of wading through all the poop pellets they leave behind just to get to the diamonds!

[roenyc]

50. Sometimes i want to reply soooooooooooooooo

bad!! and just as ask "what are you? nuts!!!" lol what is wrong with you people? lol when they start talking about god and their guns in the same sentence its too weird!

[thingsarelookingup]

54. they make me ill

I found DU just prior to the election and became hooked. Shortly after the election I wanted to see if the repugs were saying anything about the fraud accusations so I found a site called blogsfor* and reading made me sick.

It should have been called blogs against kerry and the dems. They didn't have one positive thing to actually say about * (because there isn't any) but all kinds of crap against Kerry and Co. It made me sick and I've never been back. I've even had trouble not picking fights with my own mother who voted for *. eeeewwwww!!!

[Karenca]

57. They're ignorant, they''re idiots. they're amazingly gullible. period.

They the dumbest group of people alive.
The really sad part of their existence is that they don't even know how ignorant they really are. That's really scraping the bottom of the proverbial barrel, when you're ignorant of your ignorance.

[flyarm]

59. the problem is ....

they don't even care that they are ignorant!!
they boast about their ignorance...and god forbid you show them the proof of what you are saying or showing them..they find every excuse not to look at it!! facts..they are allergic to facts ...they just puppet what they are told by other cons!! with no verifiable facts!!

ahhh i have washed my hands with their igorance...

i have a 30 yr morman friend who right before the election agreed with everything i said about all of * lies...she agreed with me on all the 9/11 lies and wmd..etc...but her reasoning for voting for bush was...teresa..she asked me if they will fix her up like they did hillary after bill got into office..she said she couldn't stand the way teresa looked....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i went nuts!!..needless to say..that friendship after 30 yrs is over...i can no longer ignore the ignorance nor tolerate it!!

fly

[Orsino]

61. The Freepers are a symptom...

...and not the disease, same as Ann Coulter. What 200 sweaty young white men post from the safety of their parents' basements doesn't worry me *nearly* so much as the relatively silent millions who have fallen for some of the same poisonous rhethoric, and who continue to vote Republican.

[keepthemhonest]

66. that is a sad reason to vote for president.

I can understand why the friendship has ended.

[keepthemhonest]

58. ok here

is an idea of how to turn the negative into a positive for us.Everytime a freeper bothersyou this go to this PDA wesite and send an emailo to all the senators listed it only takes about a minute each time.

http://www.pdamerica.org

[bmoney07]

62. let them hate themselves

they are all worthless pukes who need to open their eyes.

[seeking-the-truth]

63. when we engage in "hate speech", we become like those we oppose

I hated certain people for so many years that it became exhausting. As much as I oppose what they think, I have to try to be enlightened in my thought process...aren't we as progressives supposed to avoid hate.

I was reading a Deepak Chopra book the other day and came across the concept of Namaste(sp): "The spirit in me recognizes the spirit in you" In other words...no matter how fucked up a freeper's thinking, we are all humans and all cut from the same cloth. We should try to change their thinking rather than condemn them as hopeless. When we engage in "hate speech", we become like those we oppose.:grouphug:

[saracat]

67. Except they are loading their guns preparing to shoot you while you are

are trying to "understand" them. Unfortunately , I am not joking. They want us "dead. And some are taking measures to encourage that. Think people who murder abortion Doctor's and can justify it to themselves. We have now been placed in "Doctor" catagory by them. We should be "shot", literally, for not supporting Bush. Read the site. They are dangerous ,not just stupid. They harrassed and threatened the Bartender(owner) of the Chuey's that wouldn't serve Jenna liquor. They published her home address ans phone number. They made plans , online to meet and teach her and her young child a lesson. You can verify all of this. I will not bother to waste my time "understanding" such people.They are human garbage. We need to avoid them.

[Pam-Moby]

64. We must

remeber that like all herd animals. They do not remember how it was to think on thier own like when they were a free species. Have you ever noticed how cows are not that alert as are wild buffalo??? That is because they have not had to think of how to survive and that is the same place the freepers are right now!!! NO BRAIN, NO PAIN!!!!

[Pam-Moby]

65. An example

When I was a young child my grandfather had a farm with cows and horses. You could lead each cow over to the electric fence with an ear of corn over and over and they would still touch the fence and get shocked trying to get the corn. I believe that the FREEPERS have been penned in this electric fence for so long that they think it is normal to get electrocuted at any given time. They have bumped into this fence so often that if you lead them to it to shock them it does not faze them. So lets feel sorry for them for losing their wild instincts such as we still have to be able to see the TRUTH!!!

[New Earth]

69. What I learned on DU: Classification of Freepers

and how to tell which is which. (by request of another DU'er, who wants to know the 'dead give aways') :hi: (and also accused ME of being one) :hi:

ok, i think there are about 5 classes of freepers - I actually think I saw something similar posted a while ago but this is what I've learned personally.

CLASS 1 - "Drive-by Freepers" (*aka* Pre-Skool Freepers)

Drive-by freepers post short, brief, negative and disruptive comments in the middle of threads - usually 'one-liners' followed by one or two exclamation points (!). They are usually the most obvious and easiest to pick out. They almost come off as bratty little pre-skoolers. They last no more than about 30 posts, if they're lucky (they are also aware that they won't last). Their act is more or less, like a drive-by shooting (except it's a drive-by posting).


CLASS 2 - Disinformation Freepers

Disinformation Freepers can be either newer or older members, usually having registered within the last month or two. As the name suggests, they post either straight out bogus or distorted information to confuse or upset the issue or cause being discussed. They usually pound the disinfo like it's fact and no matter what the facts really are, they will put DU'ers out on a pointless hunt for unneccessary research. These guys don't last long either.


CLASS 3 - Sneaky 1000+ Freepers

Sneaky 1000+ Freepers aren't as easy to detect, but we all know they're out there. These guys might post and lurk for months, even years, (also may even be a donator) pretending to blend in with the crowd, only to go back to whatever Freep forum they came from to tell their Freepy friends what DU'ers are up to.


CLASS 4 - Borderline Freepers

Borderline Freepers (we have a good number of these guys crawling around, mostly in Election 2004 forum) are similar to Disinformation Freepers, except they focus more on turning every effort or issue into something negative. They will either purposely misinterpret the law, pretend to 'believe there was fraud in the election' yet try to "debunk" every fact, lawsuit, or piece of valuable information that comes our way. They will argue about almost anything, but not to the point where you piss them off enough for them to reveal that they are a Freeper. These are the hardest class of Freepers to get banned - everyone (probably even mods) knows who they are but they are so deceitful and unrevealing that there is no concrete basis on which to ban them.


And we cannot forget these guys:


CLASS 5 - To-the-Rescue Freepers

To-the-Rescue Freepers are simply freepers who come and post only to back up other Disinformation or Borderline Freeepers. They post to make it look like someone else is agreeing with a Disinfo or Borderline - almost like, hey, another Freeper to the rescue!!!
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I don't know how long this post will last so catch it while you can. LOL.

[seito]

70. This should go in Demopedia

JMHO

I love it Faye, you are right on the money.

[New Earth]

74. dammit

Demopedia is down right now :cry:

[ebayfool]

81. Copied & saved, was hoping to see something on this, TY Faye !

Now, how overt do they have to be before anyone can hit the alert button & get results, or is it more a case of 'they'll know it when they see it'? This is another one that seems to be too vague for my tired little mind to grasp.

[katinmn]

71. I believe I've encountered each one of them

and you're right, the hardliners are in the election forum.

they're dithpicable.

Although sometimes it can be funny when they breathlessly arrive like a mini-calvary to prop each other up. :)

[keepthemhonest]

72. caught it

faye and it is funny that you posted that because i noticed another thing that everyone in this thread is a donator. Now i know that not everyone can donate but the negative non donators.hmmmmm.


thanks Faye for being so brave. Love ya sister DUer

[Tsiyu]

79. It's interesting to be a non-donor

It's like wearing scruffy, out-of-date clothes or driving a run down car or having some scary disfiguring anomaly.


You learn more about tolerance and open-mindedness and rejection of the poor
than anything else.

Ah. Poverty. Held back by circumstance; demonized by the class conscious.

I'm gonna go cry now.....

[ebayfool]

82. "I'm gonna go cry now....." Nooooooo, don't do that, we wuv you anyway!

Besides, lots of us wear scruffy, out-of-date clothes & drive a run down car. (pssst, don't tell anybody - but I do)

[greatscott15]

75. Keep it Civil Folks

I am as passionate about our causes as anyone. And I suspect some funny business in 2004, although it will never be proven.

However, I do not think it appropriate to talk about the "death penalty" for those with opposite political views. We must rise about that kind of thinking. It just hurts our credibility.

Be passionate. Do whatever as long as it is legal. But cut the "hope someone dies" crap. OK?

[saracat]

76. Did you read my post correctly? That is not what I said. I also defined

my terms. BTW, It hasn't undercut the freepers any describing the disgusting things they would do to us. And their people are in office!

[renate]

77. I really, really, really appreciate this thread

I think this is a very interesting and important discussion. And I love seeing the posts from all the people who are struggling with the same feelings that I am.

I don't believe in hating people, just their actions. And that works great--but, so far, in theory only. I really do believe that we're all spiritual beings having a human experience, that everybody is doing his or her best (although sometimes their best isn't very good), and that the people who voted for Bush are simply like little children who haven't learned that Daddy isn't Superman. But then I see an SUV with a "Bush/Cheney" sticker and I just feel this huge, huge wave of contempt for the person driving it... and I don't like feeling that way.

It makes me feel a lot better to read here that there are so many good people who have the same emotions that I do. Like reading that sometimes the Dalai Lama gets cranky.

[Solly Mack]

80. I know Freaks read DU. I know they read and their blood pressures boil

I'm just helping them along to their own private rapture.