DEEP THROAT DYING | Real Identity to be Revealed Soon

[Ediacara]

Should We Jail Deep Throats …

By John W. Dean

I have little doubt that one of my former Nixon White House colleagues is history's best-known anonymous source — Deep Throat. But I'll be damned if I can figure out exactly which one.

We'll all know one day very soon, however. Bob Woodward, a reporter on the team that covered the Watergate story, has advised his executive editor at the Washington Post that Throat is ill. And Ben Bradlee, former executive editor of the Post and one of the few people to whom Woodward confided his source's identity, has publicly acknowledged that he has written Throat's obituary.

When that posthumous profile reveals the secret name, it will be flash powder on the long-simmering debate about reporters' use of anonymous sources — an issue much in the news lately because my former law school classmate, Thomas F. Hogan, now the chief judge of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, has been holding journalists in contempt of court for refusing to reveal their sources to a grand jury investigating the leak of the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame.

More at the LA Times

The rest of the article is interesting, but come on.... the most intersting part is right there...

[Vanje]

1. OMFG!

Deepthroat is the POPE!!!!!!

[liberalhistorian]

5. LOL!

Nope, afraid not, but what an image that brings up!

[ben_packard]

6. haha thats what i was thinking NT

[Ediacara]

10. That's SOOOO what I was thinking when I first read this

[Clark2008]

15. Hahahaha! I said the same thing to my Mom today!

We're Catholic - and she's a staunch liberal (makes me look conservative).

We both busted out laughing so hard at that thought that we couldn't speak for several minutes.

[Blue_In_AK]

54. My thought, too -- obviously, the Pope n/t

[DemDogs]

73. So much for Diana Sawyer (n/t)

[orpupilofnature57]

74. Sure could use him now, only thing is no one would listen,or..

They would be more consumed with his sex life.

[calimary]

82. Yeah, this Catholic thought that, too.

Hilarious! Maybe he sent tips in latin... or written on the underside of the host when the Eucharist was given out... I'll be giggling about this all day!

[goodboy]

2. nominated this for the homepage.

[WLKjr]

3. history in the making?

If this is real it will be pretty intersting to find out who it actually was.

[rucky]

4. In unrelated news...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1210595

Granny D Hospitalized.


could it be? nah.

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

7. so who's ill?

Anything in the news?

Bradlee always said that he thought someone with a computer could figure out who Deep Throat was by checking dates that he spoke w/Woodward & Bernstein against who was in D.C. during those times. That sounded complicated to me, & when I read the book I don't remember Woodward & Bernstein giving many dates.

[RhodaGrits]

13. This is one group that did that -

http://deepthroatuncovered.com/story/

How's Fred Fielding's health these days?

[NMDemDist2]

77. dept counsel huh? so was Rehnquist n/t

[calimary]

83. John Dean did that and came up with a few possibilities, but

also found reason to rule them out. Ray Price and Pat Buchanan were a couple of them. I forget if he mentioned Fielding. But the people here who've begun to speculate about Rehnquist - now that one's kind of delicious...

[democrat in Tallahassee]

8. rhenquist is dying

[Ediacara]

14. Was Rehnquist in Nixon's WhiteHouse?

If so, then I'd say that's pretty much a slam dunk...

[NMDemDist2]

17. why yes he was!

Government Service
Served in the United States Army Air Corps in this country and overseas from 1943 to 1946. Discharged with the rank of sergeant. Appointed Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legal Counsel, by President Nixon in January 1969.
Judicial Offices
Nominated Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States by President Nixon on October 21, 1971; sworn in on January 7, 1972.

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/justices/rehnquist.bio.html

[liberalhistorian]

25. NO WAY!

There is no way it was Rehnquist! He was far too loyal to Nixon and believed strongly in Nixon, and was far too much of a pary loyalist to ever even consider doing what Deep Throat did. Deep Throat wanted to bring down the Nixon WH, Rehnquist would have never, ever been party to such a goal. Besides, he doesn't have anywhere near the integrity and character necessary to have been Deep Throat.

[FreedomAngel82]

60. The thing to remember is

people can always fake their loyalty. :shrug: It'll be interesting on who it is. I know I'm very curious.

[paineinthearse]

84. Meteoric

I always thought it bizaar that his rise from Assistant AG to Associate Justice was a bit meteoric. Given he was cherry-picked, what would be his motivation to rat his boss?

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

21. Rehnquist?

His name has never, ever come up as a possibility. I'm not seeing what Rehnquist had to gain in ratting out Nixon. I'm not saying that it's not him, just that I'm not getting why he would. Anybody have any clues? He is dying, though.
Deep Throat was a scotch drinker & a heavy smoker are the only clues I've ever heard.

[jmm]

23. While looking for an answer to your question

I found a new reason to hate him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Rehnquist

Rehnquist went to Washington, DC to work as a clerk for Justice Robert H. Jackson during the Court's 1951–1952 terms. There, he wrote a memorandum arguing against school desegregation while the court was considering the Brown v. Board of Education case. Rehnquist later claimed that the memo was meant to reflect Jackson's views and not his own.

Rehnquist later moved to Phoenix, Arizona, where he was in private practice from 1953 to 1969. During these years, he was also active in the Republican Party, and served as a legal advisor to Barry Goldwater's 1964 presidential campaign. During the 1986 Senate hearings on his nomination to serve as Chief Justice of the United States, several people came forward to complain about what they had perceived as Rehnquist's attempts to discourage minority voters in Arizona elections when Rehnquist served as a "poll watcher" in the early 1960s, though the allegations did not describe illegal behavior. Rehnquist denied the charges completely and was confirmed by a wide margin, although by less than Antonin Scalia, who was nominated to fill Rehnquist's seat as an associate justice of the Supreme Court

Justice Department and Supreme Court service

When President Richard Nixon was elected in 1968, Rehnquist returned to work in Washington. He served as Assistant Attorney General of the Office of Legal Counsel, from 1969 to 1971. In this role, he served as the chief lawyer to Attorney General John Mitchell. President Nixon mistakenly referred to him as "Renchburg" in several of the tapes of Oval Office conversations revealed during the Watergate investigations.

[liberalhistorian]

31. Rehnquist is a racist, sexist,

bigoted, POS SOB of the highest order, no doubt about it. He was actually gleeful over his role in denying blacks the right to vote, and has openly said that, and I quote, "it's time for the people of the north to realize and accept that the south doesn't like black people all that much, and to leave them alone over it." And I have no doubt that he was instrumental in the "selection" of the Boy King in 2000. He's called for an end to the separation of church and state, claiming that there's no constitutional basis for it and that Jefferson wouldn't have approved of our interpretation of it, which is total and complete BULLSHIT. I'm terribly ashamed that this man is actually our highest "justice" official, since he obviously has NO clue as to what justice really is.

There is just no way that he's Deep Throat.

[MADem]

100. He had a home with a restrictive covenant in the deed

I believe it was a NO JEWS OR AFRICANS clause. Of course, they are unenforceable, but you would think that someone in the legal sphere would either avoid that sort of clause and purchase elsewhere, or work to have it removed. He never did.

I found that small factoid particularly repugnant when it came out around the time of his nomination.

[theboss]

127. A lot of us probably have those

Particularly if you own a home that was built prior to 1950.

[lala_rawraw]

51. No, he was a judge

And Swiftless guy was his clerk thanks to his nice job at going after Kerry.

[H2O Man]

81. Correction:

He became a judge under Nixon. However, William H. Rehnquist was the Assistant Attorney General under Nixon before he was appointed to the bench. As such, he was one of the authors of the Nixon policies such as making military strikes inside Cambodia, and attacking the media on the Pentagon Papers.

[lala_rawraw]

124. oooooooooo, okay...

I thought he was a judge then... thanks for letting me know:D

[glitch]

19. of THRYOID cancer. And where is the thyroid located?

Ok not deep in the throat but close by. Probably offered to play the patsy for GHW since he's dying anyway.

[MADem]

102. Do you mean be a fake DT???

Is that what you mean by patsy? Problem there is with Bernstein and Bradlee--you'd have to get them to go along with the lie. I could see Woodward, with his connections to the evil empire, bullshitting us, but not those two.

Perhaps GHWB is VERY ILL, and they are keeping it quiet. A lot of times people can hang in there, do commercials and public appearances, right up until the end, and then they have a quick downslide and they're off to the daisy farm to do push ups.

I am so curious as to who it is; I would hope that he made a video and answered all of the questions so many of us want to know--what made him do it, what specifically drove him to be the leaker, how did he feel about his role, was he ever afraid, was he ever tempted to speak out publically, either during Watergate or in subsequent years???? So many questions, I hope he's left a book or a video.

Regardless of his motivations, the guy is an American Hero.

[yardwork]

37. If it was Rehnquist, then the trail leads straight back to Poppy Bush

I'm beginning to think that Poppy helped get Nixon out of office to clear the decks for his own ambitions. If DT turns out to have been Rehnquist, then the SC's role in appointing Baby Bush falls into place as part of a long-term plan.

[davidwparker]

47. Like the Manchurian Candidate.

Saw the remake for the second time last night. Excellent movie!

[earth mom]

66. I just brought the remake home tonight-DH will for sure want to see it now

[mordarlar]

71. Very good film... HORRIFICALLY sad tho.

[johnfunk]

111. Bill Rehnquist starring in "The Manchurian Segregationist"

Has a nice ring to it...

[devilgrrl]

62. That's nothing! I think Poppy tried to get Reagan clipped!!!!

:tinfoilhat: and don't get me started on his getting Alzheimers!

[alittlelark]

67. I'm all over that one...

[MADem]

103. GHWB was BITTERLY, BITTERLY DISAPPOINTED

...by Nixon, who often dangled before him the opportunity to be CONSIDERED for the VP slot. He was on the very short list, but Agnew won out. Nixon ended up shuffling him off to be UN ambassador, when initially he had offered him a job in Treasury, but withdrew that and gave him UN as a consolation prize. Then, when Agnew took the hit, GHWB was on the short list yet AGAIN, but Ford got it. It gets even better following the ouster of Nixon; GHWB was yet again on the short list as Ford's VP, but Rockefeller won out. Talk about not even being able to be a bridesmaid, never mind a bride!

He finally got his shot with Reagan, but that was only because Reagan couldn't deal with Ford (the people's choice, viewed as a stabilizing influence on Reagan, and still respected, despite his failed WIN--Whip Inflation Now--idiotic strategy), because Ford wanted to be "co-president." Reagan came VERY close to choosing FORD as his VP, but they couldn't agree on the parameters of the job. Neither would budge, plus, they really didn't like each other. Bush finally got the job by default, because he was willing to be a very small, shriveled second banana and take orders from the thugs in the WH.

Loyalty is everything with BushCo. You have to keep your word, and Nixon screwed Bush more than once. Wouldn't surprise me if he was taking revenge, more than defending democracy, if he did indeed turn out to be DT--or the UberDT guy who gave the talking points to the foot soldier in the garage that we regard as DT.

It's a fascinating mystery...

[Untouchedalarm]

53. I agree with you

[cser]

9. I imagine

there are already more than a few jailed deep throats

[ClassWarrior]

11. Rehnquist?? Nah. I'm hoping it's that scumbag Poppy Bush.

NGU.

[Cell Whitman]

61. Poppy hasn't been looking to swooft lately

here he is in better days, shilling for Sun Myung Moon. That's the Unification Church emblem he's standing behind.

[calimary]

87. Yeah, me too. Petty, arrogant, vindictive old twerp.

It'd be just like him to stab somebody in the back for not handing him another plum.

[dogman]

12. Rehnquist?

Is that why he got to pick the pResident?

[Haymare22]

18. Malloy said

huge insider opinion was Nixons(now raptured) secretary. Which fits in some ways as she just raptured and suddenly all this chat about DT's name coming out.
Hmmmmm

[Clark2008]

26. Rose Mary Woods

that's her name. Correct?

[Haymare22]

28. Yep, thats her nombre....

Jeez, I couldnt remember her damn name.

[Goldeneye]

38. Woodward told Wolf Blitzer it was a man.

[elare]

48. And she's already dead

Jan 23 - Rose Mary Woods, Nixon's personal secretary during Watergate, has died, aged 87. Woods was responsible for the famous missing 18 minutes from a White House tape recording.

http://www.watergate.info/

[Haymare22]

35. Rose Mary....

Nuther reason why she fits the ticket is most others mentioned are too obvious IMHO. She was so out of view all this time.....and a true insider.

[Warpy]

16. The article mentioned "incorrect information" given by DT

I'm wondering just what this oh-so-moral author is considering such information, since everything DT said has been confirmed by the declassified tapes Nixon made of all his meetings before the breakin and during the coverup.

This guy is just too prissy for words, and I sincerely hope there aren't too many more "journalists" like him out there.

Anonymous sources should always be taken with a grain of salt, their agendas examined, and their information confirmed any way possible, even using other anonymous sources.

If this joker's prissiness had been the rule in 1973 and 1974, Nixon would have served out his term and we'd likely still be in Vietnam.

[Clark2008]

29. Do you not know who John Dean is?

He's not a journalist and doesn't claim to be.

But, he does know from Watergate. I suggest you Google him.

[Warpy]

33. I know who Dean is

and I have as much respect for his general veracity as I do anyone from the present administration.

[Zen Democrat]

40. I recall that his veracity was confirmed when the Nixon tapes came out ...

Dean is the prima facie evidence of Nixon's guilt. Nixon said Dean was lying. The tapes proved that Dean had testified almost word for word to the truth of his conversations with Nixon, including the "cancer on the presidency" remark.

Dean has been one the loudest critics of the present administration. Have you read "Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush"?

[American Tragedy]

65. Actually, Dean's proven himself to be fairly credible.

Why are you so suspicious of him?

[liberalhistorian]

36. Do you have any idea who this author is?

John Dean isn't a journalist, and has never, ever claimed to be. He was a White House lawyer in Nixon's inner circle during his second term, and actually served time for his role in covering up Watergate. While in prison, he recognized just what an SOB Nixon really was, as was Haldemann and Ehrlichmann, and that they'd used him and sold him up the river. He has written books on it, and has been one of the foremost members of Nixon's WH to expose that fucker for what he really was.

He's been on our side concerning Bush, and has frequently commented on the frightening similarities between Bush and Nixon, and has publicly stated that, as bad as Nixon was, Bush is 100 times worse and far more dangerous and frightening. Please try to find out a little more about people before making comments like that.

[nostamj]

79. Dean's "Worse Than Watergate" is one of the BEST

of the BEST of the Bush-bashing books! if you haven't read it yet... get to it right after Byrd's "Losing America"...

[liberalhistorian]

20. My mom and I

(I'm 40, she's 63, so she actually remembers this as it happened) have always been convinced that it was Alexander Haig. Everything fits. He was even in the military, and Woodward claimed that Deep Throat was a friend from his military days. Also, Haig actually had some integrity, he was the one who told Nixon that it was necessary for him to resign for the good of the nation and that he was disgracing the party and the country. There are many, many other reasons why we believe it's Haig, those are just a couple off the top of my head. So, I'm going to throw my bet into the ring and go on record as saying that I believe it's Haig. Anyone have any idea what's happening with him health-wise?

Last year, a university journalism class and their professor (can't remember which one, I think it might have been Northwestern, but I could be wrong), spent their entire semester investigating who Deep Throat could have been. The majority of the class narrowed it down to, are you ready for this, PAT BUCHANAN. I had to laugh when I saw that. OTOH, Buchanan has always been his own man and has not been afraid to speak out against members of his party if he feels it's necessary. He's even written books calling out his own party and going against the grain, like his newest one "The Wrong Way, How the Neocons have ruined Reagan's Legacy and Hijaced the Bush Presidency." So maybe that isn't too farfetched. I really doubt it was him, though. The other candidate they narrowed it down to was one of the lawyers in Nixon's inner circle (can't remember his name off the top of my head).

I still believe it was Haig, though. I cannot wait to find out who it really is.

[freethought]

32. Didn't some believe it was a man named "Grey" or "Gray"

One of the two being a last name. I remember some kind of news media special being done on Watergate. A thing like "Watergate, Twenty Years Later" sort of thing. They kind of played '20 questions' with Woodward and Bernstein. It didn't really reveal much but it did narrow the list. One name seemed to stand out. Lest I recall it this person was high up in the justice department or FBI. This is going to be interesting.

[Zen Democrat]

41. Pat Gray was Acting Director of the FBI during Watergate break-in days.

[Dulcinea]

97. He's a good candidate.

After reading the book, I think it had to be someone in the intelligence community.

[Smarmie Doofus]

42. That's L. Patrick Gray... Nixon picked him to head the .....

FBI after Hoover died. I believe he's still alive. An interesting candidate.

[Sapphocrat]

69. I'll give you an even better one - tho' NOT alive to tell any tales...

Anyone remember CIA director William Colby?

William E. Colby (4 January 1920-28 April 1996)... In 1941 Colby joined the U.S. Army and in 1943 the Office of Strategic Services (OSS). ... He obtained a law degree from Columbia University in 1947, the same year that Congress approved the formation of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). After working for a short time in a law firm, Colby in 1949 joined the new agency. He served in Stockholm (1951-1953) and then in Rome (1953-1958), where he helped to arrange the secret subsidization of political parties to prevent communist electoral victories. Most of the recipients were centrist or slightly left of center, a political alignment that proved effective in combating communism but that gave Colby the reputation of having endorsed the "opening to the Left." ... Colby was CIA station chief in Saigon from 1959 to 1962 and headed the agency's Far East division from 1962 to 1967. Then from 1968 to 1971 he directed the Phoenix program in South Vietnam, which sought to identify and eliminate communist activists (the Viet Cong) at the village level. Colby felt that the program was superior to the use of military force, which he believed was too blunt an instrument and alienated the Vietnamese. Nevertheless, estimates of the number killed under Phoenix range as high as 60,000 people. ... After Phoenix, Colby rose within the CIA's Washington bureaucracy, and on 4 September 1973 President Richard Nixon appointed him director of the agency. During his tenure the press and Congress turned on the CIA, accusing it of crimes and misdemeanors ranging from assassination plots to espionage against Americans at home. When in 1975 both houses of Congress set up inquiries into the activities of the intelligence community, Colby offered significant if limited cooperation. For example, he handed over to the Senate committee chaired by Idaho Democrat Frank Church details of the CIA's recent operations against the left-leaning government in Chile. ... Colby's candor on such matters shocked colleagues in the CIA, some of whom never forgave him for opening up the activities of what was, after all, a secret agency. ... conservatives such as Barry Goldwater disliked Colby's liberalism and concessions to the Church committee. Colby had become politically vulnerable, and on 30 January 1976 President Gerald Ford replaced him with George H. W. Bush. ... On a spring day in 1996, Colby went down to the waterfront near his weekend home in Rock Point, Maryland, and launched his canoe into a stiff breeze. Until his body was found several days later with no evident signs of foul play, the press had one more chance to speculate about the fate of a man whose manner of death seemed to conjure up the enigma of his life. ...

Much more here (although a Google search will turn up many, many more links of interest):
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/wcolby.htm

Colby always struck me as the perfect DT. Dead, sure, but certainly worth consideration.

[pamela]

44. Woodward said it wasn't Haig.

The theory that it was Haig was getting so much attention that Haig asked Woodward to "clear" him, so to speak. Woodward came out publicly with a statement that it wasn't Haig. Oddly, when asked shortly thereafter if it was Buchanan, Woodward said he wouldn't respond to any speculation about Deep Throat, even to deny that someone was Deep Throat. He had already done this though, with Haig.

I think it was Buchanan.

[liberalhistorian]

57. Well, just because he said it

wasn't Haig doesn't mean that it wasn't Haig. He could have just said that as a favor to him to get the Wrong Wing off his back.

[calimary]

88. True, enough. And the stuff about the smoking and drinking Scotch

could have been just a slight adjustment in detail. Maybe it was vodka or bourbon but Woodward said Scotch just to throw people off the trail a little. But at this point, what kind of credibility as a truly impartial reporter does Woodward have anymore? He's nothing but a toady to this White House, selling his soul for inside access. Which is another reason I'm suspicious of poppy bush - nobody knows how to keep friends close, and enemies closer, than the bush klan. Woodward had unprecedented access to daddy's little boy, after all. Great way to cut another possible muckraker off at the knees - turn him into your ally by dropping a few nice juicy plums in his lap. Think he'd turn on you then - and - gasp! - actually do his job?

I don't think it's Haig, although, hell, he certainly has the ego for it. Just can't wait for this one! Whoever it is, that'll be a MOST entertaining day.

[Clark2008]

78. Buchanan's not dying, though

If he is, he's the healthiest looking dying man I've ever seen. He was just yelling on Scarborugh the night of the SOTU.

[hedgehog]

90. Integrity? Haig said it was their own fault that 4 American women were

raped and murdered by US financed death squads in El Salvador. He accused them of attempting to run a road block.

[Johonny]

129. Something

tells me Oliver Stone thought it was Haig too given the way he's portrayed in the movie.

[freethought]

22. Dying or dead

the repubs will want this guy. If he is still alive they'll kill him then go to work on him.
Watergate, is the one thing that repugs believe was the ultimate in media unfairness.
Personally, I believe it was the brigtest example or our free press doing its job.

[liberalhistorian]

39. That is why Deep Throat's identity

has been protected all these years, because they know the RW hatefest and shitstorm that would descend on him, and how badly they'd shred him. Who the fuck wants to deal with that when you're alive, even if you know you were 100% right, as he was?

[wicket]

43. AMEN

n/t

[mordarlar]

72. Oh i hope it is bush. They put him in the WH ROFLMMFAO!

[calimary]

86. Truly. I'd go under DEEP cover, too, if I'd helped to take down one of

the wrong-wing's gods. Remember how many tentacles they have, and how well-funded they are. They do vengeance like most people breathe.

And BTW, freethought - I couldn't agree more: "I believe it was the brigtest example or our free press doing its job." Of course, since then, they've seen the error of their ways, and made amends. Hi. We're the White House Press Corpse. We only hound Democrats.

[Yupster]

109. If he's still conscious, I think it's

bad taste for Woodward to say he's almost dead and I'll reveal his name soon.

You're telling a dying man that you're just waiting for the minute he dies so his name can become a scandal for the next couple of years.

Bad taste.

[wicket]

24. Rehnquist

[Gabi Hayes]

27. how's fred fielding doing these days

[Sparkly]

94. That's what I'm wondering, too!!!

Anybody know?

[CHIMO]

30. How students solved one

How students solved one
of America's top mysteries

http://deepthroatuncovered.com/

[HeeBGBz]

34. Rehnquist?

He's the only other sick person I can think of.

[UTUSN]

46. RHENQUIST Is Certainly Sick in a LOT of Ways Unrelated to Health

So he wouldn't be somebody doing something honorable as DT did. And HAIG is such an airbag, so full of himself, so out-of-Dr-Strangelove, such an AIRHEAD, that he wouldn't carry the weight of DT. But I hadn't thought of the angle somebody brought up in another thread---what if it's somebody we hate?-------Poppy. Plus, that the wingnuts are going to trash him to pieces. BUCHANAN doesn't look physically ill, though his wingnuttiness is sick---but you can say that about ANY of the NIXONites. (Yeah-yeah, he's been good on trashing the NeoCons, but the rest of him stinks.)

[merh]

93. Isn't Gerald Ford sick?

Where was he at big dawg's library opening or the inaug?
Ford hasn't been seen in a long time. Just throwing out another sick person from that era!

[dhinojosa]

45. Is Diane Sawyer doing ok?

just curious

[Gabi Hayes]

56. not THAT Deep Throat

[sleipnir]

76. Actually, Diane Sawyer was/is rumored to be Deep Throat.

She was working for the Nixon White house, and she had access to the info. She's easily on the Top 30 suspects. Some still believe it is her, and that the name "Deep Throat" is a witty name she came up with.

This is all moot as it was revealed by Woodward that Deep Throat is a man. Though, he could be lying.

[dhinojosa]

49. Kissenger

I don't know where he is.

[dflprincess]

50. Gerald Ford is said to be in poor health

Not that I ever considered him to be a candidate until just this moment. But, he did have a lot to gain by bringing Nixon down.

Personally, I really want it to be Poppy.

[journalist3072]

55. Ford

I wasn't even thinking about Ford, but you're right. He was unable to attend Clinton's library dedication, and Shrub's coronation.

[lala_rawraw]

52. It may be a red herring...

For the real deep throat, who was named for his garage meetings more than his smoking... I will always think it to be one of my top three I have mentioned so many times all over the forum, lmao. So I won't bore you again. I do not think it is Renq. If it is, then Woody lied to his editor.

[charlyvi]

80. Actually, the name was a tongue in cheek reference

to an extremely popular porn movie out at the time...."Deep Throat". With Linda Lovelace, I believe. Cigarettes had nothing to do with it.

[RevCheesehead]

115. RIght you are.

Linda Lovelace reference = Watergate Deep Throat
Cigarette-Smoking guy = X-files

[merh]

95. babs voice is deep, she used to smoke and it would be easy

to confuse her for a man and as we all know, she is very vindictive. I wonder how her health is these days.

[RevCheesehead]

116. Too. Damned. Funny.

merh - are you old enough to remember the porn movie "Deep Throat?" Didn't it involve Linda in a not-so-nice scene with a certain barnyard animal??? (you know...my pet ____???)

Not that I would know from any first-hand knowledge - it was sort of the high-school urban legend stuff that got around. :evilgrin:

It could explain why W was so enamored with the goat book!

[merh]

118. Thank goodness someone caught that humor!

And yes, I do remember the talk of that movie "deep throat". Was Linda L. in a scene with a barnyard animal? That would explain the hyponotic effect of that book on 9/11 and his love for the ranch. No horses, but what other animals does he "tend" to while there? :shrug:

[RevCheesehead]

120. Seriously - the rumor I remember was that Linda L....

...got her name in "Deep Throat" because she, um, "had oral relations" with a goat.

The connection with shrubby and the kiddie classroom is just too outrageously funny, if true. I could just hear him, "Dad? Is that you? Naaa-aaah!"

[merh]

122. After his sister's death, didn't babs

leave him in the care of his naaaa-aaaahnie?

[RevCheesehead]

131. You're baaa-aad.

:evilgrin:

[merh]

132. Naaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

:evilgrin:

[anarchy1999]

58. Go jump in a very deep lake, Woodward and all of the rest of you that

may be standing behind him. He has known for years and played it out. It is criminal and I consider Woodward to be at the top. Just IMHO.

[w13rd0]

59. "Deep Throat Revealed"...

...has become an annual holiday or something. I swear, every year, it's a new deep throat. It sizzles for about a month, and sputters out, and we go about our daily affairs. And Bob Woodward probably still goes golfing with "deep throat", he's such a tool. Pffft.

[Liberty Belle]

63. So what aging Rethugs are seriously ill?

Rehnquist. Was he involved in the Nixon administration? If it was him, it would certainly explain why Woodward felt the need to keep his identity secret until his death. After all, Supreme Court Justices are appointed for life.

[American Tragedy]

64. I'm suspicious. Why would they reveal this?

If Woodward and Bernstein intend to fully keep their promise to their source, and I've been fairly convinced that they do, why would they dramatically narrow the field like this by announcing that it's somebody who is presently mortally ill?

[buddysmellgood]

68. They mean ill like sick in the head.

[peterh]

99. They didn’t reveal it….

Read the article again….John Dean is revealing the hint….


"The source who informed me that Woodward leaked the news of Throat's illness to the executive editor of the Post gave me that information either on "deep background" or "off the record" (I never could get the distinction of those rules straightened out). So I apologize to my source if this information was never meant to be public, but it is a tidbit too hot to keep sitting on."

[ck4829]

70. We seriously need a modern day Deep Throat...

to reveal the crimes that this President is doing.

[Eurobabe]

75. Who's about ready to ride the light?

Rehnquist, who else? That ought to narrow down the speculation re: identity.

Anyone else "gravely" ill??

[0007]

85. Wasn't John Dean gonna expose 'deep throat' two years ago?

Sounds like he's kind of back tracking to me!

As for Deep Throat, well, we will all soon learn if Woodward has been protecting a criminal for three decades, or merely a source who gave him some good information and some bad information— when history's greatest source was wrong — that Woodward has never corrected. (To pick just one of Throat's many errors, I randomly opened "All the President's Men," scanned until I came to the passage in which Woodward reports Throat as giving him this: "Dean talked with Sen. Baker after Watergate committee formed and Baker is in the bag completely, reporting back directly to the White House." It never happened.)

[Nothing Without Hope]

89. Could have been Rehnquist (or someone else) fed info by Poppy

Poppy Bush, like his horrible spawn the blivet**, never takes responsibility and always goes for the personal gain. If the goal was to bring down Nixon in order to clear the way for Bush, then one way or another Poppy was pulling the strings. Having someone else actually bear the danger of role would be a typical Bush manuever.

On the other hand, if Deep Throat was actually motivated by concern for the good of the country, then I can't see it being Poppy Bush. He's far too selfish for that.

What I can more easily imagine is Deep Throat being someone who WAS concerned about the good of the country -- Rehnquist? who knows? -- but was being fed additional info by someone who was in it for themselves -- Poppy. Poppy was in a position to know what was going on and would be alert for an opportunity to advance himself. To this day he is feared because he has dirt on so many people in Washington.

So maybe Deep Throat didn't get all his info from his own sources, maybe there was someone else helping to get it to him, someone not motivated by patriotism.

[dflprincess]

119. That's an idea

I like the idea it was Poppy but let's face it, the Bushies don't do their own dirty work. They find some stooge to it for them and Rehnquist may have been that stooge.

[Nothing Without Hope]

121. Yes, it makes sense to me. I think that the assumption that...

...Deep Throat acted entirely on his own without any kind of support or source of information is just that: AN ASSUMPTION.

Even if Rehnquist turns out to be named as the person Woodward & Bernstein dealt with, that doesn't mean there weren't string-pullers behind the scenes. And in my book, Poppy is a string-puller who never takes dangerous chances without building in deniability.

If it's Rehnquist, and he dies, then everyone will assume that's the end of the story. I'm betting it's not, but someone wants it to look that way.

[hedgehog]

91. What's really fascinating about this thread

is how many of the players that I remember are totally unknown to the younger crowd. These guys really thought well of themselves back then and now they barely rate a foot note. Maybe it's because I was young then, but the people from the Kennedy, Johnson & Nixon eras seem a lot more complex than most politicians today regardless of where they are on the spectrum.The bad guys today are one dimensional compared to Nixon, and was any president more conflicted than Johnson?

[MADem]

106. Yep, I agree

I guess it's the "Either you are with us, or agin us" mentality that pervades the political landscape these days. There was more civility back then, too. Actually, it seems like civility started its slow death spiral with Watergate, when I think hard about it....

[hedgehog]

113. You're right - Nixon was a full fledged hater

Watergate really was the event that made dirty tricks a Republican institution. Nixon always accused his "enemies" of things they hadn't done, then justified his crimes as mere pay-back. It's still the Republican modus operandi.

[Just Me]

92. Is Powell ill? Nawwww,..*lol* I'm just messin' with ya',...*grin* eom

[H2O Man]

96. Could be the

Pope: he's old, in bad health, and must have recognized Nixon as the devil.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

98. Here's the list of possibilites:

The two men who attempted the most in depth investigation into Deep Throats identity: John Dean and Leonard Garment, have both included in their lists: Al Haig, David Gergen, Charles Colson, Alexander Butterfield, L. Patrick Grey, Henry Peterson, Earl Silbert, Stephen Bull, Ron Ziegler, Elmo Zumwalt and Mark Felt. At the time of this unusual, face-to-face meeting, Woodward was not yet the well-recognized figure he is today; however, the others were, with one exception: Mark Felt.

Although Woodward has never divulged Deep Throat’s identity, he has publicly ruled out some of the men mentioned above for reasons of his own; Haig, Peterson, Gergen and Zumwalt.

[Liberty Belle]

101. Rehnquist was probably Woodward's source on the Brethren,

the expose book Woodward wrote on the Supreme Court.

Woodward once promised to reveal his source upon the source's death. But after several Supreme Court Justices died, he backtracked and said he wouldn't say if any of them was his source, because it might identify someone still alive and on the bench through process of elimination.

There are only two justices still on the court who where there when Woodward wrote The Brethren, and one of those is Rehnquist. Details:

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1030821212697

[Shopaholic]

107. Interesting article

Thanks for posting.

[begin_within]

104. I thought Linda Lovelace already died.

[Liberty Belle]

110. Not THAT Deep Throat!

[leesa]

105. Well, this makes me hope it is Poppy The Murderer.

[robertpaulsen]

108. Great article! Dean shows why Novakula can't hide behind 1st Amendment.

These two paragraphs are very illuminating:

Finally, if the confidential information relates to criminal activity, the U.S. Supreme Court said in 1972 (in Branzburg vs. Hayes) that should a grand jury investigating the crime need the information, the journalist must turn it over — despite the freedom of the press guaranteed under the 1st Amendment.

No reporter can enter into an agreement that violates that law. Rather, an agreement of confidentiality is subject to it. The so-called news person's privilege, just like the attorney-client privilege or a president's executive privilege, is a qualified privilege. When a judge holds a reporter in contempt for violating the law, that judge is merely upholding the law of the land.

So, whoever told Novak & friends about Plame's cover working for the CIA through Brewster, Jennings & Associates has no protection.

And what is Patrick Fitzgerald doing about this? Anyone heard any news lately? :)

[Ilsa]

112. IF it is GHWBush, I'd hate to think of the year long tribute the

media is going to put up for his death while his son is a sitting president.

[McCamy Taylor]

114. Someone in DOJ, highly placed, maybe Eliot Richardson himself?

That might be too high, but someone high enough that the Washington Post would have no problem publishing stories based on this person's word alone. And where is the one place a source can work in DC where a reporter knows he wont get a subponea to identify his source because the place that issues the subponea's already knows who his source is? The DOJ.

Leaks to newspapers are always coming out of the federal Justice Department. It's a classic.

[dflprincess]

123. To the best of my recollection

(there's an old Watergate Hearings phrase for you) they didn't publish based only on Deep Throat's word. I think Bradlee insisted they always get one person to back up what Deep Throat said. Having the info from DT made it fairly easy to do that. There was one time they got burned when Woodward's attempt to confirm with a second source didn't work the way it was suppose to.

[delete_bush]

117. OMFG!

We're looking for a Scotch drinking, cigarette smoking man with a sickly appearance, code name of Deep Throat? It can only be Ann Coulter.

[mordarlar]

125. lol yep seems your right. Maan is the only one that has ALL the traits.

[lala_rawraw]

126. LMFAO

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is great, love it:D

[itcfish1]

128. It Would Be Ironic

If Deep Throat were Renquist since he is dying of throat cancer?

[Obviousman]

130. Eh, the damned right wingers will stifle coverage of the story because his

name is "deep throat" I can see the FCC complaints now