Harry Reid and his attempted deal making with Frist

[AlCzervik]

Hear me out for a second.

When i first heard about the deal making he was attempting it really angered me, and then i kept thinking about and what i think he did was smart. I think he went in there to talk to Frist already knowing that Frist would say no and that would get out in the media, something like "Reid tries to compromise, Frist says no" and then i thought about how that will play out in the public, we've seen a few polls with numbers on the side of keeping the filibuster and i think when people realize Frist just said no way i think that senate republicans will lose even more support not only on this issue but on others because they will be perceived as just inflexible and petty. Thats my 2 cents, flame away.

[ck4829]

1. Reid knows what he is doing

He is a sane and intelligent man. Reid will hopefully shut the Senate down soon. There is no point in having the Senate operate when it is being run by these parasites.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

2. Heard Ed Schultz promote that theory today.

Reid's point was to prove how extreme the Repukes really are. He knew they wouldn't accept any compromise.

[AlCzervik]

4. good, i'm glad i'm not the only one, sometimes

you'll put something out there and it's recieved like the 3rd man on the grassy knoll.

[Fenris]

3. That's what I think as well.

He knew he wasn't going to get shit out of them. I cannot believe Frist fell for it.

[Dr Ron]

5. No reason for Frist to compromise

If Frist has the votes, he obviously won't compromise.

If Frist doesn't have the votes, he is still better off not compromising. By taking this to a vote and losing, he might still maintain some support from the religious right, but he loses any chance for their support if he compromises.

[Stinky The Clown]

8. Rock .... meet Hard Place

Reid snookered Frist's lying ass big time on this one!

[caligirl]

6. This is a thread I started today. comments from Dkos. interesting

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1746547
Made the Greatest page today.

[AlCzervik]

9. excellent, Reid is one crafty man and the fact that he's

pretty soft spoken helps his cause all the more. I remember watching him on the seante floor about 9 months or so ago reading from his book, he was there for over 8 hours.

[Stinky The Clown]

7. No flame from me .... I've been saying this for days

[Carolab]

10. Harry Reid reminds me of Robert Byrd.

In his demeanor and craftiness.

[bullimiami]

11. what exactly was the compromise he was willing to make?

maybe he felt he couldn't lose either way.

[AlCzervik]

12. No one knows exactly and i won't bother spreading the rumors

of this judge or that judge.

[caligirl]

16. I think this is it, it was also in an article in the Wa Po this afternoon

I loved the 6th District compromise. Levin and Stabenow have holds on 3 nominees from Michigan in retaliation for Spencer Abraham's 3 year hold on two Clinton nominees who have the two longest nominations without ever getting a hearing. Levin (with Leahy's help) has offered a bipartisan compromise, which was essentially "we'll tell you to drop Henry Saad, you can keep McKeage and Griffin, and then we'll replace Saad with one of the Clinton appointees whose nominations were scuttled by Abraham and Hatch." In effect, Reid's compromise was to give Clinton a final judicial appointment, 4 years after he left office.

See post 6. i posted this from the Dkos comments.

[Pissed_Progressive]

13. I applaud Reid, a seasoned politician,

for trying to find a middleground in such an awful scenario. Despite the dirt that continues to be kicked in our face, as a whole we realize that diplomacy, compromise and agreement has to be the order of the day to keep legislation moving and ensure the will of the people is being carried out. It amazes me that the Right is stooping so low and continues to be so divisive to assert that the filibuster abolition is to protect the interests of the spiritually inclined (read, Jesus Freaks) and because "no judge has ever been filibustered" at least according to the message on my machine from Focus on the Family (read, Jesus Freaks). As we come closer and closer to a theocracy, I have to ask the question when is enough enough? What is the breaking point before diplomacy fails?

[AlCzervik]

14. the gop is drunk with power, and as we know abosolute power.....

[newyawker99]

20. Hi Pissed_Progressive!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[xray s]

15. kos nailed it

Reid played chicken with Frist and Frist is the one on the shoulder of the road...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/4/26/133311/075

[dandrhesse]

17. I think that whatever Reid is doing, he knows what he is doing

I have confidence in Reid. I think the same thing with Jimmy Carter being on the election reform commission. Never hurts to hear exactly what the opposing arguments are, most probably you will find out their weakness as well.

[Gothmog]

18. I also have been pleased with Harry Reid

Harry Reid outmanuevered Frist again. I am very pleased with Harry Reid.

[AlCzervik]

19. i'm a little surprised by him to be honest

I need to be a tad more openminded.

[Jandar]

21. But can you imagine the bile that would have been thrown at

Reid if Frist had taken the offer? He would would have given away what many consider the only victories the Dem's managed, in 4 years. I don't think it would be worth it, even if it did kill Frist's presidential ambitions - Like that smarmy, unctuous rat-faces bastard has a chance, Orrin Hatch has more charisma, and Hatch is more repellent than a pubic louse.