Please, tell me how the right-wing corporate media is going after Clark.

[Oracle]

I quit watching (or listening to) any of the right-wing corporate media for over ten month's now...so I am curious how they are and going to lie, distort and smear Clark?

I know many of you still watch and some listen to these corporate media swine (and I'd truly urge you not to) but that is your choice...so please let me know how they are attacking or plan to attack Clark as you see it.(including what the assholes on talk radio are spewing out.)

Thanks....

[bahrbearian]

1. Crawling on their bellies.....

Not much they can attack him with Except that he's from Arkansas and another one of them Rhode scholars....

[diplomats]

2. I can't listen, either

but Josh Marshall has several posts on it:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com

[pmbryant]

3. They're trying to paint him as a "liar"

By twisting things out of context the same way they did with Gore three years ago.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh092303.shtml

Disgusting, really.

--Peter

[Oracle]

9. Fucking George Will still at it?

man. nothing changes.

[StephNW4Clark]

4. And of Course...

there's always Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter calling him a "phony general." Apparently, they forgot that over the course of a 32 year military career, he had to deal with Republican administrations as well and received 3 of his 4 stars prior to Clinton. Amazing how amnesia strikes at such convenient times.

[Brian Sweat]

5. They probably aren't yet.

Right now he is a fresh story. Right now they can get plenty of mileage out of building him up. Then they can knock him down. This is how the media works. Clark will be the darling of the media for a while. Once viewers lose interest in the positive stories, then they will turn on him.

This is why politician and their political aides try to control the news cycle. If they can keep the media occupied with something that doesn't hurt their candidate, the media will not attack. They try to feed the media stories that make their opponent look bad, make them look good or just distract the media in general.

[dbt]

6. On the day Clark announced,

The main theme among the talking heads of CNN was how late it was in the season to be declaring one's candidacy. Naturally, they omitted the fact that the other Rhodes Scholar from Arkansas made his announcement in October of '91. Small, but telling.

:argh:
dbt

[dfong63]

12. that other rhodes scholar had a political track record - clark doesn't

[Lefty48197]

14. Yes he does

Dealing with subordinate officers and enlisted persons, dealing with congress and it's committee members, the executive branch, the UN, and foreign military commanders counts as political experience in my book.

[barbaraann]

7. Todya on MSNBC there was a story about espionage at

Gitmo and the graphic was WESLEY CLARK! They kept the Clark graphic up the entire time the anchor was reading the story about "espionage in the military." It really didn't look like a mistake to me.

[papau]

8. Using the Gore changed what he said ploy - but since they used it on

every Dem, and never use it on the GOP, they now look silly,

But our media is full of itself, They pontificate to each other as if there is a revelation buried somewhere in their mis-characterization of each Dem's position.

Not that our media is GOP right wing controlled - all the time - sometimes they are just stupid - or they pretend to be stupid to cover up acting right wing controlled.

No matter, since we must filter through them to get our message out, we must forgive and smile - bullshit --

When I was young I would have said it is time find out addresses - but now I respect the law and Harrassment is illegal - so I'll take another half dozen pills and forget about a media that screws the regular folks so they can get 6 fiqure salaries and tell us about their ethics on Sunday talk, as they lie or pretend not to understand a Dem position on an issue.

[ronzo]

counterspin

There was a prophetic entry at the counterspin blog http://www.counterspin.blogspot.com/
couldn't get the anchor link to work, but the entry was made on the 17th 6:46am
Props to Josh or whoever posted it here, probably a dupe, but relevant... Major props to Hesiod. The wife says we saw this link in a Connason article. anyhoo...

Quote:
<sub>HOW THE GOP WILL ATTACK CLARK: The campaign of rumor, innuendo and attacks against Wesley Clark will get extremely vicious. It will make the attacks on John McCain during the South Carolina GOP primary look tame in comparison.
For a rundown of the lines of attack, read this PeePer thread on Clark.
Among the attacks that will be launched on Clark are:

1) He's just a front for Hillary and Bill Clinton. Mostly, he will be portrayed(sub rosa, and especially on talk radio) as Hillary's Presidential stalking horse. There will be rumors flying that he would entertain asking her to join the ticket as his VP.

2) He's an unstable hothead who "almost started World War III." This line of attack has already been raised, ironically, by Katrina Vanden Heuvel on the pages of The Nation. That incident was less aggressive and hotheaded than it seemed. From the Washington Post:

<snip>

3) He was involved in the Waco disaster. Clark commanded the 1st Cavalry Division out of Fort Hood, Texas at the time of the Waco siege. Gun nuts and militia wackos will go bananas over this allegation.

4) They will repeat the smear perpetuated by George Will and the Weekly Standard that Wesley Clark lied about being contacted by the White House to hype the Iraq-9/11 connection.

5) They will try and downgrade his military service, which will be hard to do.

6) They will, probably in the "confederate" South bring up his Jewish ancestry.

7) He did not get along with his colleagues in the military. This is an effort to portray him as arrogant and aloof. Unable to work with people, etc. In other words, they will portray him as another Douglas MacArthur. Of course, to rightwingers, MacArthur was a hero.</sub>



There's more good stuff there and hesiod nailed it a week ago. The entry is at the bottom as I write this.

Edit:
Hey, I figured out a tag.

[WilliamPitt]

10. Lessee

He wore the hat of a murderous war criminal a year before the war criminal committed his war crimes.

He voted for Reagan a couple of times.

He didn't say he was a Democrat until recently.

There was some dizzying report about Clark waiting for a phone call from Rove, byt Josh marshall put the boots to that one pretty quick...actually www.talkingpointsmemo.com has been keeping good track of all of this.

Oh, and he may or may not have tried to start WWIII zagainst the Russians while using depleted uranium weapons in his horrible war against the...etc...

Really, they choppers have been positively hyperactive on this one.

[dfong63]

13. those aren't lies or distortions, they're true except the last one

He wore the hat of a murderous war criminal a year before the war criminal committed his war crimes.

undeniably true.

He voted for Reagan a couple of times.

true.

He didn't say he was a Democrat until recently.

true.

There was some dizzying report about Clark waiting for a phone call from Rove, byt Josh marshall put the boots to that one pretty quick...actually www.talkingpointsmemo.com has been keeping good track of all of this.

it might not be true, but Clark admitted saying it.

Oh, and he may or may not have tried to start WWIII zagainst the Russians while using depleted uranium weapons in his horrible war against the...etc...

i don't believe Clark tried to start WWIII, but he did use DU weapons, which is a war crime. with the exception of the WWIII hyperbole, the other items are true. just because info is unfavorable to a candidate, doesn't mean it is a lie or a distortion or that there is anything wrong with the media reporting it.

[WilliamPitt]

15. But yeah there is

The hat thing was offered in the context of Clark cavorting with a guy who had committed atrocities. The guy hadn't committed the atrocities when the picture was taken, so unless Clark had a Way-Back machine in his pocket, that one was kinda out of his hands.

The entire United States military establishment is guilty of using DU. Pinning it on Clark, who was a soldier following orders, is ridiculously inflammatory.

[Lefty48197]

16. Don't forget that he saved the Kosavars

from extermination at the hands of the butcher of the Balkans.

[asjr]

11. right wing

It is the usual--same song, second verse. That is all the Repubs know how to do and it is grating to say the least. I do watch the news on CNN and ABC in the evening. I don't think ignoring it is going to help me keep up with what is going on. I do mute the sound when GW is on because the sound of his voice makes me want to climb the walls, but I keep up with the avid mind-boggling rhetoric of Judy Woodchuck and Candy Creepy-Crawly. I always think Do these people really think we are so stupid we don't know what is going on? I have to laugh at them.

[library_max]

17. Bill Safire's column

in the San Antonio paper today called Clark a stalking horse for the Clintons. We've seen that thread on DU also, but it seemed germane here.

[Kanola]

18. Their obsession with the Clintons

will be part of how the try to smear Clark. The RWingers are starting with it already, in hyperparanoia or mania mode about Hillary running. Also about how Hillary will take over and kill Clark..conspiracy theories ad nauseum.

Look for the lies and conspiracy theories because we will have to work to debunk them all and not let happen to Gore occur again.