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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:18 PM Original message |
I don't agree with the reaction of some re:SCOTUS ruling on Eminent Domain |
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wtmusic
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Eh |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Is it? |
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wtmusic
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. agree |
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JackRiddler
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
113. gimme a break |
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wtmusic
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Sun Jun-26-05 01:47 AM Response to Reply #113 |
130. This has never happened in the real world |
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Vincardog
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. The way it will work is that people will have to sell their houses |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. The only option isn't for them to close |
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Vincardog
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. but couldn't because of the hold outs of one or two property owners, thus |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. No |
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Vincardog
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
77. How about a ban on ED except for PUBLIC works? |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Let's Talk About the Man |
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Walt Starr
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Not to mention the fact that the community has 80 unused acres elsewhere |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Maybe this man should become a Christian |
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Walt Starr
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. All this ruling serves is to fill Pfizers pockets |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. easy to claim |
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Walt Starr
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. And you cannot prove that there will be any "public good" (as opposed to |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. yes, I can |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. United States Elected Officials and a Substantial Part of the Electorate |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. As I recall |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. So Are There ANY Rights That You Don't Think The Government Should Be Able |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. I like to think that |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. The Good Reason Is That They are Morons |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:45 PM Original message |
corporations |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
103. Do You Have a Point? |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #103 |
112. Do the words 'fairness' |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:46 PM Response to Reply #112 |
120. If One "Person" Wanted To Take Away Another "Person's" Home |
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Walt Starr
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. And the takings clause of the fifth amendment specifies... |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. oh well |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Not a Single Thing You Mentioned Is Not Public Use |
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Walt Starr
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. You have got to be kidding ME! |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. do explain to me |
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Walt Starr
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Oh good Goddess! |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I'll Try to Put it in Words I Think You Can Understand |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. what is Pfizer building there? |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Yeah, Pfizer Just Wants to Take People's Homes So They Can Cure Cancer |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. I really don't understand how you jump to so many |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. If They're So Far in the Middle of Nowhere |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. There Is Something to Be Said For the History and Heritage |
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Cato1
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. Your negative attitude towards... |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. nice elision and unwarrantable conclusion |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Some People Think That the Christianity You Suggested He "Get" |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. I don't know |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Your Idea That the Will of the Majority Should Supersede the Rights |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. ??? |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. I Don't Know What Planet You Just Descended From |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
93. thanks for the smarm |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. You're Welcome for the Smarm -- You Earned It |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 05:12 PM Response to Reply #102 |
126. So |
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noiretextatique
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
100. the OJ verdict had little to do with morality |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #100 |
109. I wrote that hoping it wouldn't get people |
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noiretextatique
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. it was a nightmare, that's for sure |
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Lexingtonian
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. very true |
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Redstone
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
80. That may be the wierdest opinion I've ever seen on DU. |
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NorthernSpy
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
110. sooo... this man's attachment to what he owns is shameful... |
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Coastie for Truth
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Subsumed into "Rich Folks' Hiways Thru Poor Folks' Bedrooms" in Pennsylvan |
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Patiod
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. We're dealing with it in my area |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I'm not arguing |
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Coastie for Truth
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. My wife's family grew up in Ardmore - |
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Coastie for Truth
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. The issue is "Fair Market Value" |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. If Businesses Were Willing To Offer People What Their Homes Were Worth |
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Coastie for Truth
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. The effect in Pennsylvania has been exactly that - big first offers |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. The Only Caveat I Have |
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Coastie for Truth
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Read the "Pennsylvania" definition |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I Think There Are Some People Who Have Certain Values Money Can't Buy |
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Coastie for Truth
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I won't argue with you |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. The Family Farm Guy... I Really Don't See Him Having a Price |
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Coastie for Truth
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. The other effect of the Pennsylvania Law |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. And That's Something I Can Live With |
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cynatnite
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. It opens a door to abuse |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. You're right. It is definitely is |
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Walt Starr
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
49. I have a newfound respect for Justices O'Connor, Thomas, Scalia, and |
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GiovanniC
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
92. I Absolutely and Totally Agree With Them Both Here |
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Nye Bevan
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
12. NO corporation should be able to force a homeowner off his property |
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Coastie for Truth
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. That was the "desired" effect of the Pennsylvania Law. |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. I would definitely support |
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warrens
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. I agree |
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wuushew
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. Local government should not be in the business forcecasting area |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Pears and bananas! |
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Nye Bevan
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. The "Local Officials" play golf & hunt with the company's executives |
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Warren Stupidity
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. ED has traditionally been used for the PUBLIC good. |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. ED should definitely be limited |
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Warren Stupidity
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
76. Railroad right of ways |
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davekriss
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
24. You have not convinced |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I do feel the ruling was too broad |
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BuyingThyme
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
31. A homework assignment for all ED enthusiasts: |
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wuushew
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
59. I am in favor of ED where it comes to airports |
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G_j
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Fri Jun-24-05 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
33. find me a town where |
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Nye Bevan
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Bingo. Local politics is very often a cesspool of corruption |
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Texasgal
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
41. So I guess Wal-Mart |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I hope you didn't mean |
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Texasgal
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Thing is.. |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. I think the fears are founded in reality |
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earth mom
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #61 |
82. And you think that this new Supreme Court ruling won't be abused? |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #82 |
94. I never said otherwise |
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earth mom
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Fri Jun-24-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #94 |
129. Allowing it AT ALL is allowing for it be abused and allows |
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mnmoderatedem
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
54. Hmmmm... |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I do believe it can be done |
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GreenArrow
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
79. "greedy developer" |
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
58. This is way beyond eminent domain. Facism is a word that comes to mind. |
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H2O Man
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Fri Jun-24-05 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
62. I wonder if my aunt had balls |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. I don't understand your response |
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H2O Man
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Fri Jun-24-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
124. The OP asked |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 05:14 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. When my point, or at least my original point |
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Vinca
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
74. I don't know how you can support the Supreme Court decision. |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #74 |
88. I don't necessarily support it as it stands |
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Vinca
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Fri Jun-24-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #88 |
123. Of course eminent domain is necessary, but it's not necessary |
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Generic Other
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
75. There's one little old lady living in Boeing's Seattle parking lot |
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Redstone
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Fri Jun-24-05 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
78. No. Just fucking no. You are WRONG. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. so it would be OK with you if the same people were moved for a park? |
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Warren Stupidity
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. A park is clearly a PUBLIC GOOD |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Jobs are indeed a public good |
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Warren Stupidity
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Well I've specifically cited examples where ED |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Yes. And we all know that happens |
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Redstone
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Are you going to think the same way when they come to take |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. I knew this was coming. |
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Redstone
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #99 |
107. And when was the last time that a corporation kept it promise |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. You're talking to someone |
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Redstone
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. But that's my point. If cities are told that they can take |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. I'm not arguing for New London |
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Redstone
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. But when they DO act against our best interests, |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Limits. I'm all for those |
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earth mom
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Well said! Bravo! |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. People are more important than corporations |
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NorthernSpy
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #86 |
101. All hail the Kommunity! |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. I don't see it that way |
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NorthernSpy
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #106 |
116. rights outweigh 'best interests' |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. And those individual rights mean squat |
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NorthernSpy
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Fri Jun-24-05 05:08 PM Response to Reply #119 |
125. without mutual non-aggression, there is no community |
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GreenArrow
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Fri Jun-24-05 07:33 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. B-I-N-G-O |
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pmbryant
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Fri Jun-24-05 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
104. Excellent points, excellent post |
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Pithlet
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Fri Jun-24-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Thank you. |
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