Bush's supporters against Cindy aren't as grassroots as he claims

[CatWoman]

on Keith Olberman now!!

[CatWoman]

1. Keith about to bust these fuckers

THIS WAS POSTED ON DU LAST NIGHT

[Pirate Smile]

5. I missed it. Can you find the link?

Awesome!

[CatWoman]

9. Here it is

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4438691#4438997

[Pirate Smile]

15. Thank you! meow-meow.

Here is what it says:

"This is an e-mail I got today, it's too good not to share.

VACAVILLE, Calif. (AP) — A caravan proclaiming support for U.S. troops began a tour through California on Monday and stopped in the hometown of Cindy Sheehan, the anti-war mother who gained national prominence during a vigil outside President Bush’s Texas ranch.

Conservative activists and military families embarked on a tour they are calling “You don’t speak for me, Cindy!� and are planning rallies in several California cities before heading to Crawford, Texas.

Vacaville was among several stops for the caravan, which is being sponsored by Move America Forward, a Bay Area-based group. Other rallies Monday were scheduled in San Francisco, Sacramento, Fresno and Bakersfield.

When the MAF website first went up this take a look at who is was registered to:

The .com address was first registered using this information:

Registrant:
Russo Marsh & Rogers
770 L Street, #950
Sacramento, CA 95814
US

That’s right, this genuine act of patriotism is brought to you by the Republican public relations firm Russo Marsh and Rogers. The Move America Forward organization isn’t just based in the Bay Area, it’s based in the same offices as the Russo PR firm. Same receptionist answers calls for both organizations. Website was registered to the firm until they figured out that it wouldn’t look good if people knew that a PR firm was behind this ‘patriotic grassroots activist group.’

The President muffs it big time when he refuses to meet with the mother of a dead American soldier because he’s ‘too busy’ on his vacation and then Republicans follow that up by going and getting this PR firm to sponsor a caravan to denounce her.

Aside from bad politics that’s just disgustingly loathsome behavior."

[CatWoman]

67. Crooks and liars has the video posted

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/08/24.html#a4616

[texpatriot2004]

76. So the group of "supporters" in Crawford were hired by PR firm...

Rethugs sent a caravan of phony cronies to support Chimpy against this honest, real-life, group of mothers and women who have lost family members in Iraq?

I think I get it...it's not shocking, nothing those lowlife Rethugs do is shocking anymore. However, I love the last line of your post:

"Aside from bad politics that’s just disgustingly loathsome behavior."

Agreed! Absolutely loathsome behavior.

What a sick bunch of people, the whole lot of 'em. Neocons are evil.

[bluestateguy]

2. HA!

[CatWoman]

4. A DUer cracked this last night

WHO WAS IT??

I forgot!!!

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. Is there a link to that post?

Thanks. :-)

[CatWoman]

8. FOUND IT!!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4438691#4438997

[SammyWinstonJack]

17. ;Thank you ever so much.

:-)

[derby378]

24. So who was Ninkasi's "Deep Throat" on MAF?

Makes you wonder...

[wli]

3. astroturf! n/t

[xultar]

7. Duh, how can he have grassroots support when the grass hates his guts

[CatWoman]

10. kick

:kick:

[buff2]

11. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!1

This should be spread around everywhere. These idiots are from a RNC PR firm..LOL... I hope the good people at Camp Casey slams this back in their faces when they start screaming their anti-Cindy/pro-bu$h crapola. EVERYTHING is fake in the repuke party....even their glorious Presi-DUNCE..LOL

[CatWoman]

12. last night I sent the link to Buzzflash, Media Matters

and Crooks and Liars :D

[Scout1071]

13. Yes Catwoman! I posted this info on Cindy's diary last night as

well as another on DKos and a few threads here for good measure!

Ninkasi was the poster that brought it to my attention.

Congratulations DU!

[buff2]

14. That's good,CatWoman

That is hilarious....grass roots bu$h supporters...LOL

[KansDem]

33. Sorta fits in with the GOP "angry mob" shutting down the 2000 recount

...in Florida. Turns out the mob members were all GOP congressional aides and assistants sent there by the Bushistas.

[jsamuel]

16. nominated

[buff2]

18. I nominated this too.....everyone should.

GO CINDY!!!

[AuntPatsy]

19. Of course they aren't, its all bs. to be honest, I have talked to

quite a few people, some for her some against, and it didn't matter about what politics they held, that had nothing to do with it, in fact I was shocked that some hard core libs thought her actions innappropriate and other hard core conserves feel she has that right...

And I love that it is so, so their divisionary tactics towards partisan circles are obviously not absolute...

[ninkasi]

20. I posted a little more information on this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4444628&mesg_id=4445032

Hope the link is right...this same group worked against Michael Moore and on the campaign to recall Gray Davis. Typical rw tricks.

[CatWoman]

22. Take a bow, Ninkasi!!!!!

:D

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

[ninkasi]

34. Thanks!

I get lots of stuff from the Texas Dem groups, I'll start checking and if it's not on DU, I can post it in either General Discussion, or the Texas group. If ya'll can forgive an older lady's lack of computer skills. Thank you!

[Scout1071]

23. Three cheers for Ninkasi! Hip, hip, hooray!

[ninkasi]

31. Thanks!

I have been so tempted to join the DU Activists, but am so hopeless at posting links, being a techno-dummy, that I try to do what I can. Thanks, but the credit goes to the e-mail I recieved from a Yahoo Group member. I'm in the Texas Democrats 2 group, and honestly, lots of things I've gotten from them, I can see now, I should be posting here, instead of worrying so much about doing it right.

[Scout1071]

38. You bet you should be posting more here!

If you look at my posts, I just use the plain old cut and paste method when it comes to links. I can google with the best of 'em, but can't seem to learn how to make those cool links. They remind me too much of DOS!

Nonetheless, that was great stuff and I hope you post more.

Thanks again.

[ninkasi]

77. Hey, thanks for the encouragement...

We've all got to do whatever we can to stop this madness.

[derby378]

25. So, uh, who was your source?

Who sent you that e-mail that started it all?

Great work, ninkasi!!

:toast:

[ninkasi]

29. An e-mail from a Yahoo group

It's Texas Democrats 2. I did Google the information myself, though, once I read the e-mail, just to be sure I could back it up. You can probably tell why I haven't joined the DU Activist Corps, I'm pretty hopeless at posting links and such. Once I found the information in Google, I was comfortable in posting it here.

[derby378]

32. That's cool

And you don't have to be an HTML guru or link wiz to join the DU Activist Corps. You might consider asking Skinner if there's any room left.

[Carni]

21. I already knew this--fat ass Jim Robinson and his odious wife

Were part of that *caravan* and the thing originated in home of the freeper -- Fresno.

This whole thing is paid for by the same people who brought us Jeff Gannon etc (in other words the bushit whitehouse)

[derby378]

26. "If you're in marketing or advertising, kill yourself"

We could so use Bill Hicks right now, if for no other reason than to hear his wrenching gut laugh when he learned the truth about MAF.

[Scout1071]

27. Come on....some of us try to use our powers for good!

[derby378]

35. But that wasn't my quote...!

That was Bill once again, Texas' most hilarious and vitriolic left-wing comic. May he rest in peace.

[Cleita]

28. I saw those people on the news.

I say we should issue a challenge to the recruiters to test their sales skills by recruiting Jenna, Barbara and George P. Bush. I noticed while he was praising the families like them for keeping Americans safe he said nothing about the younger Bushs sacrificing for their country.

[EVDebs]

30. KO this ! Disney/ABC owns KSFO who pay Melanie Morgan

The SF Bay area station KSFO then has its TV affiliate tout the Move Forward America bus tour as 'news coverage' ... while thus 'fairly' having a counter protest of Cindy Sheehan at Crawford.

In order to truly be 'fair and balanced' ABC should now be questioned when they come to Cindy Sheehan's encampment.

BTW, Keith Olberman's show just had on Spc. Jeans Cruz, currently an unemployed retired Iraq war vet who captured Saddam Hussain. He says that it's time to bring the troops home, that's the best way to show respect for them , since no one can currently coherently describe the mission they're on -- unless it's to create yet another Islamic Republic in the Middle East, just what that troubled part of the world needs, huh ?

[Scout1071]

36. Check out the itinerary for the traveling circus!

Tell me this isn't 100% put together by a PR firm. All the scheduled media stops just screams PR firm like they were promoting a book or a movie!

http://www.moveamericaforward.org/index.php/DailyFile/tentative_schedule_for_you_dont_speak_for_me_cindy_tour/

[KansDem]

44. So what happened?

Bush laid low at the Ranch while the PR firm put this all together? What a coward! He sends out a few tidbits via his cabana boys to feed his base while he waits for this "grassroots" movement to swing into high gear?

That man is a disgrace!

[Scout1071]

46. Bingo. Then they simultaneously coordinated *'s comeback tour.

Except it went over about as well as Spinal Tap's last stop at the amusement park gig.

"Derek Smalls wrote this....."

[MelissaB]

49. OMG!

I'm piling on a nomination. This is no grassroots movement.

[roseBudd]

62. check out their forum: Activity within 7 days:(No Activity)

[KittyWampus]

37. Cat, A DU'er intimated this a few days ago in GDPolitics. They had dirt

on these astroturf counterprotestors showing they were bogus.

just saying.

this was a couple of days ago.

i've been waiting for the shoe to drop. :D

[Scout1071]

39. I remember that thread. I also remember it being locked before

any of the info was released.

just saying.

No matter how you slice it, it's great that it's out there for public consumption.

If the original DU'er would kindly step forward, I'd be glad to give them a big ol' slap on the back as well. It just feels great that we may have made a difference in circulating this info.

[CatWoman]

40. well, fuck

it's official now, ain't it??

:D

[sniffa]

42. wasn't it worse than this though?

one of the Leading mothers not even having a son in the miLitary, and cLaiming otherwise?

(in the thread that got Locked)

[Scout1071]

45. Roger. But I'm pretty certain it ended up being put in

lock down. I think there may have been some divorce stuff too.

Paging the original "two bucket dirt" poster.......

[Stirk]

41. Alright, this shit requires some serious phone calls and emails.

This is so disgusting and sleazy, it'll even turn off hardcore Bush fans.

The Republicans have hired a PR firm to SMEAR the mother of a soldier killed in Bush's fraudulent invasion- AND play the public for fools once again. This is seriously fucked up.

[Scout1071]

43. DU Activist Corps activate! In the form of........an angry mob of

emailers and callers! Oh yea, and a bucket of water because didn't one of those wonder twins have to be a water based thing?

Let's go Mods.......activate your army!

[CatWoman]

47. you guys should know

the info was scrubbed from their website.

I'm gonna email Crooks and Liars, and ask them to post the rebroadcast video

[Scout1071]

51. I'm not all that tech savvy, but what's this wayback machine

or whatever it's called? Can we recapture?

[CatWoman]

52. you're asking the wrong gal

check with BPilgrim, Trumad or DS1

[Name removed]

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[Scout1071]

71. Awe-some.

Thanks for that info. Bah-stads.

[Beetwasher]

48. It Doesn't Get Much Lower or Sleazier Than This

This is really the depth of depravity.

[meganmonkey]

50. The best part of all is that even with a fricking PR firm

they only had, what, 30 people on the bus?

:rofl:

I've said it before but I think it exemplifies it well - last wednesday we had 55 people in teeny tiny Chelsea, MI - almost twice as many!

Looosers! (sic)

[CatWoman]

54. *cue rolling sagebrush*

looks sorta lonely, doesn't it?

:D

[meganmonkey]

57. Yep - too bad they fixed the 'PROVIDENSE' sign

that was my favorite part, It sure looks boring otherwise! :P

[me b zola]

60. Lonelier than the Maytag repair man

:rofl:

[SammyWinstonJack]

61. Never fear, reinforcements are on the way!

ALL 30 of 'em! :rofl: Bought and paid for! :woohoo:

[CatWoman]

63. and their 20 porto potties!!!!!

[Scout1071]

72. Cat....you are on a roll tonight.

:applause: :rofl: :toast:

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[Generic Other]

56. Hey this fits with that Bubba Ankarlo too!! Holy Batman, Catwoman

we helped break that story! You smelled the first rat. Wow.
Fort Qualls, the prowar caravan, the 100 polls on Sinclair affiliates asking which we supported Camp Case or Fort Qualls...all part of the same PR stunt is my guess. Paid propagandists. And we helped expose their attempt to merchandise an opposition brand.

Good job, Midori!!!

Is Rightwing Radio KLIF's Ankarlo the bubba behind Ft. Quall?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4419280&mesg_id=4419280

[KittyWampus]

58. you know it HAD to be astroturf- their signs didn't have spelling errors

:D

[David Zephyr]

59. Thanks for making my day, CatWoman!

A PUBLIC RELATIONS FIRM.

The GOP is pathetic.

[CatWoman]

64. and Thank you, David

I don't want to hear any more from the right wing how Cindy is being "used" by leftist groups.

Fuckers.

[Spazito]

65. It's great the Keith is covering this!

It sure shows that bush's support has to be manufactured because there is very little real support out there.

[CatWoman]

68. Crooks and liars has the video posted

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/08/24.html#a4616

[tandot]

66. Republicans are using our soldiers' sacrifice for political gain? NO WAY!

Grassroots, my ass. Patriots, my ass. They are as patriotic as the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.

I just want to puke my guts out every time I see one of those so-called "patriots" on TV claiming that our call for the truth is costing soldiers' lives. They are supporting someone who lied to Americans and the world, resulting in thousands of dead American soldiers and Iraqi civilians.

NO, YOU ASSHOLE FREEPERS...YOUR ARROGANT AND IGNORANT LEADER SENT THOSE SOLDIERS TO DIE...FOR N-O-T-H-I-N-G !!! Every one of YOU Bush supporters have blood on your hands.

[Al-CIAda]

69. Excellent, rec'd. nt

[Generic Other]

75. have we not been smelling a rat for a few days, Al?

;)

[Spazito]

70. Mike Malloy just talked about this, someone sent him an e-mail

and the sender credited ninkasi and DU, WTG ninkasi! There is a video clip of Keith's bit on this at Crooksandliars:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/08/24.html#a4616

(Thanks, RSchewe, for the video link!)

[StefanX]

73. This is big news

The main reason some people support W is because they think a lot of other people support him.

This lie needs to be exposed.

[StefanX]

74. I went to MoveAmericaForward and joined their Yahoo bulletin board

and tried to post the following:

MoveAmericaForward.org is NOT a grassroots organization, and it does NOT represent "The People". It is a phony front group ("astroturf" - not grassroots) set up by a PR firm and funded by rich Republican donors, in order to give the APPEARANCE of widespread public support.

Once again, the Republicans have very little public support, and they have to pay to create the "illusion" of support.

Evidence is here:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/08/24.html#a4616

Move America Forward ( the Hate crowd ) was outed today by Keith Olbermann as having been launched by a Sacramento P.R. firm which has strong ties to the Republican party. Later in the segment Dana Milbank said that they were part of the Orin Hatch for President campaign. lol That's grassroots for you. (Watch the video too!)

More evidence here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4449451&mesg_id=4449688

When the MAF website first went up this take a look at who is was registered to:

The .com address was first registered using this information:

Registrant:
Russo Marsh & Rogers
770 L Street, #950
Sacramento, CA 95814
US

That's right, this genuine act of patriotism is brought to you by the Republican public relations firm Russo Marsh and Rogers. The Move America Forward organization isn't just based in the Bay Area, it's based in the same offices as the Russo PR firm. Same receptionist answers calls for both organizations. Website was registered to the firm until they figured out that it wouldn’t look good if people knew that a PR firm was behind this "patriotic grassroots activist group."

===

This group is NOT patriotic, because it is helping to destroy our military for a worthless cause. The "reason" we are in Iraq has been constantly changing: first it was to find the WMDs (there weren't any), then it was to avenge 9/11 (the Iraqis didn't do 9/11, the Afghans and Saudis did), and finally it was to bring democracy to Iraq (and that's not happening either - they're going to set up an Islamic Republic).

The militiamen who killed Casey (Cindy's son) report to that guy al-Sadr - and it turns out he has a very good chance of becoming a leader in the new goverment we're setting up in Iraq.

Do YOU think it's a good idea to send troops to die, and then give their killers a leadership position? This is what Bush is doing to try and save face now. And now he says we have to let MORE troops die, to avenge the deaths of the troops who already died.

Don't fall for this bullshit. Bush is a former cokehead AWOL alcoholic with serious issues about not living up to his parents' expectations. He's being used as a pawn by the pro-Israel people who report to him, and he's going along with them because it makes him feel like a "real man". (Which he never was - remember he was a cheerleader at prepschool.)

Do you want to send American soldiers to die to prop up this loser's ego and install an Islamic goverment? Face it, you've been lied to, and the sooner we get out of there and stop letting our soldiers die, the better. True patriots are AGAINST Bush.

But then I noticed the fine print:

Your message must be approved by the group owner before being sent to the group.

So much for "grassroots".