Which story is more important: Limbaugh or Traitorgate?

[kentuck]

I have seen comments that Limbaugh is taking attention away from the WH leak story about the CIA agent. And the belief is that the leak is the more important story. I have my doubts about that.

For years, Rush Limbaugh has been a propagandist extraordinaire. Disguised as a humorist, he has been nothing but a mouthpiece for the Republican Party. He has been a detrimental force for the country. His politics have been accepted as mainstream and at one time, he was nominated as an "honorary" member of Congress because he was so instrumental in Repubs taking over Congress in 1994.

So, in my opinion, it is not a given that the "leak story" is more important than the downfall of this propagandist. This is important news. Our nation would be better off without Limbaugh, in my opinion.

[bif]

1. He's not going away any time soo.

He'll still have his radio show. The leak is a far bigger story, especially if it takes down someone like Rove.

[NashVegas]

8. Depends

If he can clean up and stay clean (if the story is true), he'll keep his show.

But if he can't clean up he'll be gone. Mickey has fired people before upon publicized relapses.

On top of this, most corporate radio chains want you to pee in a jar before they'll hire you. This could get interesting.

[ixion]

2. without a doubt, traitorgate

IMHO...

[StopTheMorans]

3. traitorgate without a doubt

n/t

[hlthe2b]

4. Except that... what if this is all a set-up?

No charges have been brought on these alleged
drug charges. Now suppose this "maid" ends up discredited? Won't Limbaugh reap benefits from that, added (undeserved) credibility and meanwhile have diverted attention from the Bushistas?

[VermontDem2004]

5. Don't know much about "traitorgate"

But I seriously doubt it would do any harm to the Bush Administration, remember the Enron scandal?

[ChompySnack]

9. Enron had no direct ties to anyone

in the administration except Army secretary White. There were questionably illegal happenings but nothing provable.

Traitorgate has an undeniable federal law being broken with an FBI investigation with access to White House documents.

I'd say it is quite a bit more likely, but I am still not holding my breath.

[VermontDem2004]

11. Please

There was more evidence to Bush to Enron then Clinton to Whitewater and we had an investigation on Clinton, we should of had an investigation on Bush. But from what I know, Bush wasn't involved on this, Nofacts said it was a White House aide.

[ChompySnack]

14. It's not always about the figurehead

If they nail Rove, they are dead in the water. Bush is small potatos if we could take down Cheney or Rove. Then it would all fall in on itself. Bush just drinks and reads the teleprompter. Oh yeah, and squints and smirks a lot too.

[Maeve]

6. Limburger is a flash-in-the-pan story

He's off the front page tomorrow--The Wilson Affair will remain.

[Brucey]

7. Intimigate is more important,

because even regular repugs see how wrong this is. Most of Rush's followers will cheer what he said, not be embarrassed by it. It is a story less important than Trent Lott, simply because everyone knows that Rush is an ass. It's just that many people like him for being an ass and like what he said. Normal people aren't surprised. Intimigate has the possibility of bringing down someone big (maybe Rove) in the WH, and that would do major damage to chimpy's reputation. All we need is to push him over the edge, and a lot of nonpolitical sheeple will be against him and much more likely to vote for a Dem. just to stop the bleeding.

[ewagner]

10. I see your point Kentuck

and in a way, both stories are important.

On one hand you have the ability to seriously damage Bush becasue of his own criminal conduct thus making him less electable.

On the other hand you have damage to the chief propagandist of the right wing. I don't think he'll be taken off the air, I just think that his listenership might dwindle.

The Limbaugh "distraction" has one beneficial effect. I agree with some other posters who said that Dems and Liberals should refrain from "going over the top" on the Traitorgate story to keep it from becoming just another partisan attack. Attention devoted to Limbaugh at this time might restrain over-zealous attacks which in the long term could be counter productive.

I know this sounds like I'm trying to have it both ways but I do think there are two very different agendas to address.

[Bandit]

12. This will not be the downfall of Limbaugh

He may lose his ESPN position but he will still be on the radio 3 hours a day five days a week and what's worse is he is on Armed Forces radio without an opposing opinion of any sort. That is what would be most important to me. Get him off armed forces radio YESTERDAY. So as to your question it is far more important to get to the bottom of the leak.

[NashVegas]

15. Like I Said, Depends

If he cleans up and stays clean, yes. If not, every radio employee at CC who ever had to piss in a jar as a requirement is going to be livid.

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. Traitorgate is 100 times more important

and I'm sure the CIA is on top of it. This Limbaugh story will be over in a day or 2. I say...give it to the Big Mouth while we can. Traitorgate is ESPIONAGE! It ain't goin' nowhere!

[kentuck]

18. I agree that we should not forget about Limbaugh...

during this hullaballoo about the CIA-leak story. Limbaugh is a very dangerous person for our democracy...

[phillybri]

16. Traitorgate, Traitorgate,Traitorgate,Traitorgate....

Traitorgate.....

[noonwitch]

17. Traitorgate is more important, Limbaugh is more fun

It made my day to see that Rush got fired/forced to resign.

[Cat Atomic]

19. TRAITORGATE

Honestly, Limbaugh's situation is so insignificant that the two don't even begin to compare.

Exposing a CIA operative- the wife of a US Ambassador no less- is criminal. Doing it to bully someone into silence is even worse. And when the information you're suppressing is the FORGED Nigerian nuclear papers... well... it makes Watergate look like Whitewater.

I just got back from France today, and that's *all* the press is talking about over there. The traitor story has legs not only here, but around the world. Limbaugh is just some media moron, and few people care about his downfall outside of DU.

[calimary]

20. Yes, but what's good is the confluence of events here.

Just as the most potent scandal breaks over their heads at the White House, one of their most powerful and persuasive apologists gets a BIG distraction...

Hee HEE! Now is when they need Rush at his best. And Rush suddenly has bigger fish to fry. The karmic play here is rather exquisite, actually.

[FDRrocks]

22. Yup n/t

[jmcgowanjm]

21. there is a treasonous felon in the WH

how long will the treasonous felon be
allowed to stay.
Phillip Agee anyone?

Limbaugh will go the way of
Father Cogwell,McCarthy,
Cohen and their ilk.

Remember, none of this creates one
barrel of oil.
Robert Fisk-But it can't make the oil flow. The cost
of making it flow could produce an economic crisis
in the US. And it is this - rather than the daily killing
of young American soldiers - that lies behind the Bush administration's growing panic. Washington has
got its hands on the biggest treasure chest in the
world - but it can't open the lid.

Certain irreparable disaster. -former ambassador of Jordan to the UN

 

[BeachBuckeye]

23. The ESPN story is the least of his worries

If the drug charges stick, it will be the end of him as a political force. The Right wouldn't dare keep him as a spokesman. But......there's Bill Bennett.