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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:41 PM Original message |
Opponents of outing - homophobic? |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. what if these people who are closeted |
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TallahasseeGrannie
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Privacy? |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. If we adopt privacy as a basic right, yes, then. |
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Norquist Nemesis
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
70. Except public officials don't have the same level |
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knowbody0
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. my opinion as well n/t |
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nonconformist
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. I agree. They're not exposing someone for being gay |
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comsymp
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. Not sure I agree |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Subtle distinction worth making, but do we PANDER, my precious? |
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comsymp
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Fri Sep-30-05 07:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
213. Well, I don't see it as pandering- and certainly don't advocate kid gloves |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. if nothing is wrong with being gay, why are they closeted to |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
7. sorry, I don't agree with you |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Shrug. |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. Newsflash: being gay isn't a "sexual habit". |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
65. fine, poor word choice. |
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titoresque
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
101. Married people wear wedding rings |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. I know several gay couples who wear wedding rings |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
108. Their orientation need not be stated. "Candidate X is known |
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titoresque
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
84. LOL!! |
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Carni
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
87. The hypocrisy of people like Drier and his idiot party IS IMPORTANT |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #87 |
98. how do you know he's gay? |
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Carni
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #98 |
112. Isn't that what the tone was to this thread? Drier being gay? |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. name one piece of legislation |
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John Q. Citizen
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. Gay isn't the issue, hypocisy is. Outing people about anything, |
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TallahasseeGrannie
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Thu Sep-29-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Hypocrisy always deserves exposure |
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Behind the Aegis
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Bingo! |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Warg! |
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Behind the Aegis
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
95. Yup... |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. that's a different scenario |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Strokes chin. I suppose not... |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. its not just "gay marriage" |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Nothing wrong with the press revealing who politicians are - |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. so, the press should have something like this? |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
92. I don't know - does the press typically give out little profiles |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #92 |
105. sure, you see little bios all the time |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #105 |
128. "single" doesn't mean hetero- or homosexual |
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John Q. Citizen
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
125. No, there is no handbook on integrity. Just a bunch of people. |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. dupe-deleted |
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kdpeters
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. Outing is a problem because it's an invasion of privacy. |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. we are NOT talking about the average gay person.. |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. There is no guarantee of privacy in politics. |
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Carni
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
104. If they were a right winger pushing a homophobic agenda |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
19. sexuallity is private...thats why outing is wrong |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. so you think closeted gay politicians who promote anti gay |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. no i dont think they should be given a pass |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. of course, generally speaking, i am against outing.. |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. i agree with you completely |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. if I were outed in the navy, my life could have been in danger. |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. ??? |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
140. you never heard of allen schindler? |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. Blick. |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
53. Mainly I feel it panders to the idea that homosexuality is icky and weird |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. We're not made of sugar - we won't melt! |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
83. It's because we're VERY VERY WEIRD. |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Being gay is not just sexuality. It's family life and more. |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. umm i know what being gay is... |
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Deja Q
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
21. There is nothing wrong with being gay. Those who are and say they are not |
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butchcjg
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
184. internalized homophobia |
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tavalon
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
22. I think people get confused about what you're laughing at |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. I laugh at myself, too! In my defense. Dahlink. |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
26. Outing someone who does not want to be outed just isn't right... |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. even if they're a powerful politician who |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. It doesn't make the outing right... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. I think the press informing the electorate makes it right. |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Justify it how you see fit...I'll never agree with it. |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. That's okay - if you want a press that keeps secrets for politicians |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Personal lives shouldn't be screwed with at all...no justification... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Really? So segregationist Strom Thurmond's black daughter |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. That's correct...it's their personal life and not for the public. |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Why? Because they are accountable to the public and you are not. |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. I will defend anyone's right to privacy n/t |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Go ahead. But I am waiting to see you actyally do it - you know, |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. I'm sure I wouldn't fare to well here at DU since many consider... |
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tx_dem41
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #86 |
96. Couldn't agree with you more, Cynatnite... |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #76 |
102. The right to privacy is clear BUT |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #102 |
110. I'm curious at where does the line get drawn? |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #110 |
148. I understand the "thin end of the wedge" metaphor |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #148 |
155. Corporate media's made a ton of money off of stomping on private lives... |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #155 |
177. I hope you're right. |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
116. well, you're a bigger person than I am |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. I doubt I would since I abhor this idea so much... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #117 |
132. If you were one of the people being denied that right by a |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #132 |
138. As I said, I doubt it since I know how strongly I feel about it now n/t |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. What about other kids of outting? How about Strom Thurmond |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. You don't have to let the wrong go unnoted... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Again, it isthe job of the press to inform the electorate, not to keep |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Was it the job of the press to report on Clinton's sex life? |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. It was their job once it became news. |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. That's not what I'm doing... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. It's the job of the press to inform the electorate, especially on |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. It's not about keeping secrets...it's about people's private lives n/t |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Of course it's about keeping secrets. If the press knows something |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Keeping secrets and someone's personal life is two different things... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Please stop confusing yourself with an elected official, or |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Oh, please |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. To the contrary - your example is about yourself, a private citizen, |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. It's a private decision and not for public consumption... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. What's a private decision? |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #100 |
106. Of course voters are free to choose based on their own... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:24 PM Response to Reply #106 |
119. Well there we disagree - I think hypocrisy is worth considering |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. I think hypocrisy is worth considering as well... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #122 |
129. The press reporting within their power is not "fucking with" lives. |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. When it comes to the private lives of people... |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. This is the bit I don't get |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I agree. And why is being gay a sacred cow? Why do we want |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. I agree. I AM NOT A SACRED COW! |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Me too. My life is not a deep dark secret, and I resent that it |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. It should be a personal choice |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. You make that personal choice when you enter politcs, just as |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. And I think it's a tragedy... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. That's your choice. Other voters have other values - too bad you seek |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. People should consider the qualifications and ability... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Again, that's your criteria. I think hypocrisy is a major factor in |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. I'm stating my opinion...that's all. |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Well, thank goodness for that. |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. How do I do that? n/t |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. They have a choice on whether or not to out themselves... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. The benefit: an informed electorate. n/t |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
123. Where their decision making trumps mine |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #123 |
142. This is about right to privacy... |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #142 |
152. Sigh... |
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Arkana
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
39. I know--it happened with the Gannon story as well. |
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
46. playing devil's advocate for just one moment: |
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Carni
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
64. OK-Are we talking about Drier? |
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Mutley
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
71. The only problem I see with outing is this: |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Then that person shuold not have entered politics. |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. we aren't talking about outing in general. we are talking about |
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
109. Exactly! |
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slackmaster
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Thu Sep-29-05 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
78. Those closeted politicians are mentally ill IMO |
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CBGLuthier
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
89. What if Kerry were gay? |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #89 |
103. Nobody's business? How is who you are involved with nobody's |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #103 |
113. I personally see it as being no one's business... |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #113 |
131. "The other side"? Since when has interest in the family life |
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CBGLuthier
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #103 |
114. Ok, let me put it this way |
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mondo joe
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #114 |
130. Knowing whom someone is involved with tells me nothing about |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
90. since sexual orientation is a feeling |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #90 |
136. Photos, I'm afraid... |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #136 |
143. photos prove that someone engaged in an act |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #143 |
150. omG |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. of course |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #153 |
168. ...or they've enjoyed the company of another who spills the beans... |
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julialnyc
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
97. It is a complex issue for many reasons |
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mtnester
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
107. I asked this question of my son |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
118. Okay TRY THIS ONE... |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Sure, I get it... |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. I had no idea... |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. You could be right... |
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #118 |
133. for the last time, |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #118 |
134. Game, Set and Match, libnnc! |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #118 |
141. he isnt concerned about OUR privacy rights why should we |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. So we should be like them???? |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. I'm sorry. You don't have a damn thing at stake here in this argument. |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. We all have a stake in this...this is about the right to privacy... |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:31 PM Response to Reply #149 |
157. so do you plan on running for public office soon? |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #157 |
164. I would if it were truly possible, but it's not... |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #164 |
170. "what makes anyone think they won't stop at a straight one?" |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #170 |
174. I don't believe they would ever stop... |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. no..we should expose him so he can STOP doing damage to us |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. And what makes you think they will stop? |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #151 |
156. i guess we wont ever come to an agreement... |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #156 |
158. I do understand the reasonings and respect them... |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #158 |
163. well that is cool...i don't know what your orientation is but |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. I'm a straight chick |
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #167 |
172. though we might disagree on this one" particular" about outing.. |
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #172 |
175. I think the right to privacy is a good dem issue... |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #156 |
159. you said it better than I could |
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. oh i am fuming.. |
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #161 |
171. this is why rage is not a good motivation |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #171 |
176. but don't you see that in this case (Drier) |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #176 |
180. but doesn't every piece of anti-gay legislation |
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #180 |
187. He's rich. His boyfriend's SS benefits |
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #187 |
190. so it's not a gay issue |
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libnnc
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #190 |
192. but he votes against my interests |
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #192 |
196. he votes against MY interest as well |
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Fri Sep-30-05 05:22 AM Response to Reply #196 |
211. So if he publicly criticised Lawerence when it came down |
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Fri Sep-30-05 09:20 AM Response to Reply #211 |
214. he should be criticised for being an idiot |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:51 PM Response to Reply #180 |
199. garg, fetches cognitive tweezers...and kinda RANTS... |
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Thu Sep-29-05 05:01 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. love the rant icon |
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Thu Sep-29-05 05:02 PM Response to Reply #199 |
201. Wow. You're brilliant. Thank you for that... |
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #171 |
181. i am beginning to understand your side more as i think about it. |
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Rage works to get me active more... |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #183 |
185. i dont channel mine as productively...i need to work on that |
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #181 |
189. the rage is reasonable |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #171 |
186. We're not really using their tactics |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #186 |
188. it's an interesting discussion... |
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baby_mouse
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Thu Sep-29-05 05:10 PM Response to Reply #188 |
202. That it is. |
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Nye Bevan
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
120. The use of the word "outing"... |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #120 |
126. I agree to an extent... |
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Nye Bevan
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #126 |
137. To get society to fully accept homosexuality |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. It would depend on the reasons why they stay in the closet, though |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #137 |
154. what if they ask you to? |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #154 |
160. Ask me to what? Could you clarify? n/t |
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northzax
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #160 |
162. ask you to keep it a secret |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #162 |
169. Sure. I had a friend in high school who swore me to secrecy... |
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #169 |
173. I thought so |
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cynatnite
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #173 |
179. Yeah, if they haven't given permission, I agree... |
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Nye Bevan
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #154 |
191. Sure |
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #191 |
198. I figured, I only ask |
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #120 |
195. ALL is not fair in love & war, if you're moral/ethical? Do unto others... |
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Fri Sep-30-05 02:58 AM Response to Reply #195 |
210. and back to the start of the thread... |
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BigMcLargehuge
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
165. I am not sure... take Bill Bennet's breast reduction surgery |
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AnarchoFreeThinker
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. I heard it was a double. |
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Thu Sep-29-05 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
178. Hav'g a prosthetic should be secret if one choses. Sexual choice should 2. |
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butchcjg
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
182. it IS a weapon |
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bertha katzenengel
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
193. Some people have very good reasons for staying in. |
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Nye Bevan
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
194. So I just realized... all this is about some repuke being supposedly gay? |
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Thu Sep-29-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #194 |
197. or SINKING to name calling and gay Bashing (even if for a good reason)? |
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Thu Sep-29-05 05:14 PM Response to Reply #197 |
204. I am gay. |
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Thu Sep-29-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #204 |
205. You may be public and Drier is not. Publicity may mean more to him so... |
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Thu Sep-29-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #205 |
206. Drier chose to run for public office |
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Thu Sep-29-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #206 |
208. Bigotry is harmful, its prevalent. We judge him&say our bigotrys justified |
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Thu Sep-29-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #205 |
207. Ah, it is bed-time... |
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Thu Sep-29-05 05:12 PM Response to Reply #194 |
203. Well, yes. |
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Thu Sep-29-05 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
209. Outing has little to do with homophobia |
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