Heard an interesting theory today about miers

[proud2BlibKansan]

bush nominated her - his personal attorney - to protect him when he is indicted for treason.

Does this make sense to any of you?

[fooj]

1. That's my guess.

Peace.

[proud2BlibKansan]

8. Call me dumb but

why? Wouldn't she have to recuse herself if this came before the SC?

[ret5hd]

22. whose gonna tell her she has to? Roberts? Scalia? Who? Who? (nt)

[cal04]

25. Scalia refused to recuse himself in the case of how the

National Energy Policy Development Group developed its recommendations
that's why I don't trust her. I'm not sure what could get sent to the Supreme court exactly, but if they were stacked with Bush people why would they not do what Scalia did.

How the Justices Voted: Scalia Sides with Cheney as Expected
This case received a great deal of press attention because Justice Antonin Scalia refused to recuse himself from it, despite his duck hunting trip with Cheney. And unsurprisingly, Scalia did indeed side with Cheney in the case.

[bunny planet]

2. Yup.

[Terran]

17. No, I don't think so.

SCOTUS justices don't *have* to recuse themselves--after all, who's going to tell them they have to? They have no governing body the way other groups do in the law. Scalia didn't recuse himself in that case, what was it? the energy commission secret meetings? after he and Cheney went duck hunting together at Cheney's enormous expense.

[bunny planet]

21. I was responding to the OP when I said yup. I think * is hoping Miers

won't recuse herself if called upon to rule on his treason troubles.

[Terran]

26. Oops, sorry.

I'd have seen that if I'd looked more carefully.

Cool screen name, by the way!

[Canuckistanian]

3. Oh, but the stink....

Of appointing a SCJ just to help you beat an indictment.... would kill off any chances of a "decent" legacy.

Who in their right mind would want to use their power in office to clear...

wait, never mind that thought.

[applegrove]

4. I still think it could be a shot across the bow - from Bush to neocons

like cheney because he is angry at them for the bullshit war. So he gave them the xtian, anti-gay, anti-feminist jurist who represents everything neocons have run on and planned for years to run on to win elections.. and everything they hate (neocons really only wanted these people to get elected).

Who knows.

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. bush is mad at the neocons for the war?

That's an interesting theory.

[WearyOne]

12. Bush is just mad..is a more certain theory

[applegrove]

20. I saw someone spout that theory just after the holidays to explain

bush's lackluster and politically inept response to Katrina (not to mention morally bankrupt and telling). Some commentator theorized that there was anger between the two sides - perhaps Rove against neocons because the neocons came up with the whole Iraq thing years before and implemented it horribly - while Rove/Bush had a thirty year plan to implement. It was just a theory. Because no WMD were found and the intel was spoonfed. Theory also said that instead perhaps neocons were mad at Rove for leaking in the Plame affair. But that seems wrong - tonight - since it looks like Scooter and perhaps Cheney were the original leakers. So easily could be wrong on all counts.

But the intellectual neocons are the furious ones re: Miers. At least at first. They run xtian, gay-hating, female-dispowerment people to win elections - but they don't want to dine with them or have them on the court. They just want to control them once the election is over to implement Utopia.

She certainly was a slap in the face to 20 neocon type conservative lawyers who each had been hoping to make the court.

Don't know. Just guessing.

[henslee]

5. Surely if an impechment trial went to scotus with Miers on the bench,

she would have to recuse herself. Not that Scalia would reccomend it.

[DefenseLawyer]

16. An impeachment trial

is held in the Senate not before the Supreme Court.

[henslee]

18. Ahhh. My ignorance revealed. But then what would be the advantage

of Meiers being on scotus as described abovce?

[DefenseLawyer]

24. None in my opinion

I have said before, I think Bush picked her on his own basically. He had Roberts as the model, which everyone said was a great pick: an insider, conservative but not scary, little paper trail. Those were the basic criteria, and Pickles wanted a woman, so you take those basic parameters, and leave the decision to an idiot, and you get the woman down the hall.

[MADem]

19. She would have nothing to do with it, the Chief Justice presides

...and the Chief Justice is ROBERTS, not Miers. This is not a SCOTUS show, it is a House and Senate show. In fact, if the Chief Justice is incapacitated or the post is vacant, the VP does the honors. If the VP is under indictment, the Prez Pro Tem of the Senate gets the job.

The House passes articles of impeachment, the trial happens in the Senate, and the Chief Justice presides. If convicted, the monkey must be removed from office by the Senate, and they can punish him in other ways too, if they choose, like take away his pension or prevent him from running for any other office. After all is said and done, he can still end up in a court of law facing charges. You need a two thirds vote (of those present, not the whole hundred, so if anyone doesn't show up, it makes it easier) to convict, and this is why it is tough to impeach without a hefty majority and quite a few crossovers.

[cal04]

6. I don't know about treason, but definitely to

protect him if anything ever comes out

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. Ok - please explain to me

how this protects him. She can't defend him, can she?

[Richard D]

7. Of course

This makes total sense.

[Canuckistanian]

9. Something just occured to me....

Bear with me on this. Could it be that that Shrubbie is planning his "exit strategy"????

He's bailing! He's cutting and running!

Ever heard Sean Hannity lately? Hannity's doing everything he can to defend Shrub's choice, saying "But doesn't the pResident know exactly what he's doing?".

Meanwhile, all of the conservative commentators have been trashing Miers.

Ring any bells with anyone?

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. Makes sense to me.

It's crazy but it does make sense.

[Canuckistanian]

23. Yeah, well, "crazy" is the operative word these days.

Just when you think they can't do anything more outrageous, they go ahead and do it anyways.

[Clintmax]

11. I didn't know she was his personal attorney!

If true...I just bet you are EXACTLY right!

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. How does her being on the SC protect him?

She wouldn't be able to protect him anymore, would she?