I'm a Cancer, GWB is a Cancer, I'm a drunk, GWB is a drunk

[mandyky]

Mark my words, GWB is about to cut his nose off to spite his face!

If the RWers embarrass the Miers nomination, and force him to withdraw Miers, Georgie Boy will go into meltdown, and he'll nominate someone the GOP will hate, more qualified and not pro-life. He will drink openly and be even more arrogant than usual.

Cancers and esp. Cancer drunks know how to hold a grudge!

This is an all around win win for Democrats, not to worry the shrub is about to spontaneously combust. Don't forget your marshmallows and weinies. Just hope they keep that football far from his reach.

All his protectors are about to be indicted and I see them bringing Karen Hughes into handle him, but he will still implode!

[sepia_steel]

1. Mmmm. Marshmallows and weinies. eom

[mestup]

2. I'm a Cancer. How dare you say we know how to hold a grudge.

I'll never speak to you again.

(I need a drink.)

[mandyky]

3. LOL

Absolute-ly!

[mestup]

7. LOL - I didn't realize * was a Cancer. This explains a lot.

2-4 discernible mood shifts per day.
Yikes.

Buy stock in whatever megacorp controls the makers of Wild Turkey.

[SpiralHawk]

19. Bush is a Cancer, but he has Leo rising (Ascendant)

And that's where a lot of the action is these days in his horoscope.

Transiting Saturn (Karma, responibility, weight) has just crossed Bush's Asc, is on his Mercury, and will soon park on his natal Pluto. This PROCESS goes on from now till late May, 06 -- so we ain't seen nothin yet.

Hold onto your Astrolabes, Saturn incoming !

[Eurobabe]

34. On the inside he's a weenie, on the outside he's an ASSHOLE

that explains it. He has Merc in Leo too, which add to his assholiness. (I am a Leo so I can say this) LOL.

[Why Syzygy]

41. Does that apply to all Leo ascendents?

YIKES!

[Andromeda]

45. No. My hubby has a Leo ascendent...

and he's a pussy cat!

[SpiralHawk]

46. Depends on the degree of Leo you have rising

Runs 1-30 degrees. 12 signs X 30 degrees + 360 degree Zodiac Circle.

Every chart has its own particularities, so I would make no assumption about when Saturn will cross your ascendant, other than to say that if you have Leo there then Saturn will cross sometime over the next two years.

But karma and responsibility can be good things, too, if you have been honest and diligent. Saturn generally brings you what you DESERVE.

[Why Syzygy]

47. Mine says...

9°24'41 .. I understand the 9 degrees (sorta). What do those other numbers mean? Also have Saturn in Scorpio 4th House.

From astro.com it says Saturn conjunction Ascendant: End of September 2005 until beginning of July 2006

This is fascinating. Thanks.

[SpiralHawk]

48. Well transiting Saturn is at 9 Leo 40 today

and will be going back (Retrograde) in Nov. -- so you definitely Got It Going ON till May 06 or so. Generally regarded as a Major Turning Point. Good luck.

[Why Syzygy]

49. Thanks! Have you ever heard of this book?

Isabelle Hickey’s book “Karmic Astrology"? A friend of mine uses it a lot and explained my chart using it.

This is what he wrote (sorry to go off topic on myself .. but I need to) ..

Saturn in Scorpio 4th House: Secretive and apt to have moods for withdrawal. Psychic ability. In 4th House Saturn operates in later part of life when its negative aspects are harder to take. Happier away from home & possible strong mother complex.

I do have some stuff to work on.

On topic: What house is Saturn for Bush?
Do you think that's important?

I'll do more research but really enjoy your input.
This past Sunday I felt a quantum shift in my perceptions.
Have been struggling for awhile now and felt like a load lifted off my shoulders. Nothing has changed much on the outside yet, but the interior is rearranged .. somehow. Hard to describe.

[SpiralHawk]

50. I knew Isabel when she lived in Watertown, Mass years ago

She was an interesting character, and a pretty good star gazer. I have her books, too. She died several years ago, but left quite a legacy.

Bush has Saturn in the 12th House.

[Richard Steele]

31. I knew he was a cancer. Had no idea what his zodiac sign was, though.

[katty]

4. I'm a Cancer-but bush has transit Saturn sittin' right on rising sign Leo

Saturn, the Lord of Karma is here-it's time to pay the bill.

[KoKo]

5. Good GAWD! My hubbie is a Cancer and he's Not a Drunk...

but he admits he's kind of vindictive at times.

Maybe you need to post this in the Astrology Forum...because what you say needs to be discussed about this...but here in "GD FORUM,"it isn't gonna get the kind of audience your post deserves. :shrug:

I hope the Mods will move it.

It would be interesting to see what your "fellow Cancers" think about your post and a lively discussion might find a home there.

[mandyky]

8. Why don't you post a pointer thread in Astrology thread?

I hope the mods don't move it, because while it does concern astrology, it is about GWB too.

[DanCa]

6. GWB and I have the same birthdays

I have a chronic neurological illnesss, he's a chronic liar.
I believe in god he pretends to believe in god.

[mandyky]

10. My former Brother in law also has the same bday

Not a drunk or a hardcore Christian, but he can be stubborn, but he is a lot nicer than the Misleader.

[KoKo]

13. Until this is moved...I'll give a 2 Cents...

Since I live with a Cancer. Lovely people...innovative but always geared towards home and family. Everything they do is geared towards home and family.

If you look at Bush's Speeches where he re-named "National Security" into "Homeland Security" you see the emphasis on HOME. (now Rove as a Capricorn also loves "Home" so you see double emphasis on "Homeland Security." As a Virgo....with both Cancers and Capricorns in my immediate family...I scoff at using "Homeland Security." It reminds me of Germany and Hitler...but to my Cancers and Capricorns it has a "cozy and fuzzy ring to it...as a sound byte."

Take Bush's reading to the kids about a Pet Goat down in Florida...typical Cancer. They LOVE KIDS...LOVE TO TEACH and think that the KIDS will see them as an IDOL for just coming and showing attention to them...but Cancers honestly love and coddle kids. Virgo's love kids but don't "coddle them" and neither do Scorpio's (Laura Bush).

So...taking Bush at his Sun Sign...he can be duped by folks who flatter him by talking about keeping the "Homeland Safe." There's nothing more Bush ever wanted than to be loved, cozied and BASEBALL. That he was a Cheerleader at Yale during the biggest time of protest Yale ever had over Vietnam...says more about his "longing for belonging" than anything anyone ever writes about his personality.

This man is "out of his league" and if it wasn't for his domineering Father and Mother he might have had a good life outside of Politics.

But...he was their last hope for some kind of use as a "Tool" by the NeoCons who have run Bushies for decades. It was "Cold War" and then Neo-Con." And going back to the Nazi's the Bushies have very bad "war mongering Genes."

That's a discussion for another time...but since I live with a Cancer I can understand why, with all the Leadership Qualities Cancers are born with...the Chimp was chosen to lead America into the "Fall of the Roman Empire/Redux."

:shrug: I'll leave it at this..since this post will be moved and I'll sound like I'm blathering.
"

[DanCa]

17. interesting look at the phrase oceans can't protect us anymore.

we cancers love water.

[KoKo]

23. Earth and Water signs were predicted to have a really bad time in

the beginning of the 21st Century. All that we love and that nurtures us is being defiled and destroyed. It was said to be a time when many of us would "need therapy." But, a time when WE WERE CALLED TO SAVE THE EARTH.

Earth and Water Signs...Our Fire and Air signs would need to help us. Mayan Calender....End Times....or the TIMES OF A NEW BEGINNING.

We were all CALLED HERE ON DU...and elsewhere...to be "THE NEW PEOPLE."

If we can't help bring the CHANGE FOR GOOD...then it all dies.

It's a terrible responsibility on our shoulders. It causes some of us to take breaks or indulge too much or find really healthy ways to DEAL.

:shrug: Just my sense from alot of reading. MY EARTH...so defiled...and that the folks in the WH are Cancers, Capricorns and Virgos...who all let down their "charge" to protect the EARTH....

So those of us who share their signs need to work against them with everything we've got. We're doing some good stuff...but their Dark Force for the "negativity" of their signs is working some bad JuJu against us.

[BlueIris]

42. Your post reminded me of how much I hate Virgos.

Just hate 'em. Not because all of them are hate worthy, but because...so many of them have some of the darkest, most evil, ineffectual qualities within them--not to mention effects on the people and things around them. A Virgo choosing good? That's probably a beautiful thing. A Virgo choosing evil? You don't want to know.

[dalaigh lllama]

54. Wow, are you hearing yourself here?

You hate approx. 1/12 of the world population because of their birth month? (Just had to respond -- I'm a Virgo)

[greyl]

56. My SO is a "Virgo".

and she'll kick your drunk ass.

Good luck with that astrology thing.
:eyes:

[myrna minx]

60. As a Virgo, I didn't know that I have

"darkest, most evil, ineffectual qualities" within me. :eyes: Nice broad brush. Hey, thanks. Gawd what a stupid fucking post.

[salvorhardin]

61. You are so frappin' wrong! It's the Capricorns you have to watch out for.

They're mean, hornery, and downright sneaky. To top it off, they have the darkest, wickedest sense of humor that you could ever conceive of. Strike that. You can't conceive of it. And they take great pride in scheming and unleashing their black, evil designs. And when a Capricorn has a skill in technology the havoc they can unleash is beyond fathom. Think Kevin Mitnick crossed with Hannibal Lechter with a dash of Syd Barrett. If you come across one of these individuals on the internet you can be sure your entire life will lie in ruin before you can blink. Trust me, I know. I've been one for 39 years. Now... I wonder what BlueIris would use as a password... :evilgrin:

[Taxloss]

63. My mother and sister are both "Capricorns".

And neither of them are mean, ornery or downright sneaky. My mother does nothing but sit on various amateur dramatics and arts & crafts committees, where I suppose she might unleash her black, evil designs, if those designs amounted to staging My Fair Lady rather than Carousel. Actually, she makes rag rugs and I don't care much for rag rugs, so you could accuse her of unleashing pastel, evil designs.

[mandyky]

32. Great analysis!

That cheerleader thing is something I always think of when he is trying to sell us his latest disaster, whether it be a new war or destroying Social Security.

[burythehatchet]

36. 29,911 posts...just so you know

:)

[Withywindle]

14. You too?

Birthday brother.

I hate sharing MY day with that assclown. It's not so bad to share it with you though. :hi:

[DanCa]

16. Cool maybe this is why my typing is so bad

I type like a chicken the chimp speaks like one?
Hey i feel better birthday brother misery loves company right?

[KoKo]

20. There's tons of Stuff about Bush being a "Cancer" in Astrology Forum

and they've nailed him for years. He has his own birth chart so that what's true in "general" for Cancers...is when one looks at Bush's own chart and birth time...and year might be very different from the rest of our "GOLD START DU CANCERS" who tend towards the "LIGHT SIDE" and not GWB's "DARK SIDE."

I think Sun Signs are guidelines...and not being an astrologer but reading much about it for years...I defer to those who get more into individual charts than I could possibly do.

But...I still say GB is a CANCER who used his great gifts for Cancer Compassion...to a DARK END. So, he could be a Darth Vader...but he's so clueless he became a "TOOL."

And...I do feel that he has a very "EVIL" side to him. And that can only come from exploring where the planets were when he was born that he succumbed to such a DARK FORCE. :shrug:

DU's Nancy Waterman has the BEST BUSH PROFILE out there...but there's a British Astrologer who pegs him nicely also.

http://www.star4cast.com/index2f.asp?page=political%5Fdisplay%2Easp%3Fid%3D13

[mandyky]

21. He definitely gets a nominating vote for Anti-Christ

from me, but my definition of anti-christ is not biblical.

[Straight Shooter]

35. Whoa. Check out what this Brit astrologer predicted:

From the more minor influences, 2005 also looks to be a confused, undermining, panicky year with not much focus or concentration. Neptune will trine his Moon, making him overly sensitive, low in physical energy, wanting to withdraw from too much aggravation. There will be panics as Pluto squares Mars/Neptune through December 2004, repeating again in late June to early August, October and November 2005. This tends to accompany cunning and deceitful behaviour, disasters caused through water, brutal damage. His energy levels will be low at this time and he’ll feel paralyzed, unable to motivate himself into gear. Pluto also trines Sun/Neptune and Mars/Pluto, Mercury/Mars from mid February to mid May and in December 2005 and again July to early November 2006. This will bring chaotic conditions, perhaps scandal, illness, weakness, calamities and disasters, tough conditions and high irritability. His Jupiter/Saturn midpoint, always a career indicator, is also being rattled by a Uranus opposition in 2005 in March, late September to end of October, December to early January 2006. This tends to bring strong emotional tensions, sudden change in circumstances, maybe damage to houses or cars. His health will again be affected.

Very interesting site, indeed.

http://www.star4cast.com/index2f.asp?page=political%5Fdisplay%2Easp%3Fid%3D13

[phiddle]

9. Yeah, but you probably haven't killed

a few hundred thousand people. Chin up!

[bluedawg12]

11. But you sound rational. The comparison ends there. heh. n/t

[mandyky]

12. Nobody has pissed in my corn flakes

but GWB is about to get golden showers during each 3 meals a day!

[graywarrior]

15. I'm a Scorpio. Cancer's were my best drinking buddies.

They were the storm, I was the hurricane...but they were better at carrying out the revengeful little deeds I congered up.

I recognized the drunk in George the first day I laid eyes on him. You can't fool another drunk.

[KoKo]

22. Water signs do have a tendency to "stick together."

:D We "earth signs" sort of love "the grape."

[graywarrior]

33. "Loved" the grape, in my case...sniff

[ArkDem]

18. Cancer on society?

[KoKo]

24. George Bush...."Cancer in the WH" according to John Dean was Nixon

who was a Capricorn/Earth Sign. Rove is a Capricorn.

Chart - Karl RoveKarl Rove Natal Chart (Sun on Ascendant) December 25, 1950. ... SUN, Capricorn, 03° 26'. MOON, Cancer, 18° 27'. Ascendant, Unknown. Mid Heaven, Unknown ...
www.starsoveramerica.com/charts/RoveKarl_natal.htm - 8k - Cached - Similar page

NewsScope December 14, 2004 - StarIQ.com
Karl Rove's Capricorn Sun squares Saturn, a doubled influence that confers tremendous ambition. Saturn represents one's inner authority, ...
www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0005929.HTM - 40k - Cached - Similar pages
starcatselections04My predictions of disaster in Iraq and how Karl Rove would thrive on dark and dirty machinations ... and is in opposition to the USA's Pluto (27 Capricorn). ...
starpathvisions.com/starcatselections04.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages


NewsScope December 14, 2004 - StarIQ.com
Karl Rove's Capricorn Sun squares Saturn, a doubled influence that confers tremendous ambition. Saturn represents one's inner authority, ...
www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0005929.HTM - 40k - Cached - Similar pages
starcatselections04My predictions of disaster in Iraq and how Karl Rove would thrive on dark and dirty machinations ... and is in opposition to the USA's Pluto (27 Capricorn). ...
starpathvisions.com/starcatselections04.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages

[ArkDem]

25. And the sign said you got to have a membership card to get inside

Ugh

Signs signs everywhere are signs
blocking out the scenery
blowin' my mind

[tblue37]

26. He's a cancer on the presidency. /eom

[mandyky]

27. It's pretty bad when a president makes Nixon look good

I think GWB has even oout done his idol - Ronnie Raygun!

[Megahurtz]

28. Haahaha!!!

I'm a Cancer too!:toast:

[progressivebydesign]

29. My ex-husband was both a Cancer and a drunk ..

and an unstable jokester with a mean SOB streak. Just like Bush. I think you're right. They have the same birthday, as well. I think you're on to something!

[bluedonkey]

30. I'm a Cancer

and I'm very sweet.I can hold my liquor without being a drunk.Also,I'm not vindictive at all.
I always thought * gives us 'cancers' a bad name!

[burythehatchet]

37. you misunderstood...he's "A" cancer...you know, on humanity. n/t

[OnionPatch]

39. Me too

Another Cancer who is pretty forgiving. Not into grudges and revenge. Also not much of a drinker, even when I try. :shrug:

[KamaAina]

38. Are you a moran?

No? The comparison ends right there.

[Why Syzygy]

40. George roasting over an open fire.

Yes. I can see it now. He's already in MELTDOWN.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. Astrology is bunkum.

[Contrary1]

44. I'm a Capricorn

who has had cancer. I agree...but then, I am only halfway drunk at the moment.

[mandyky]

51. One last kick

Good night all!

[Roland99]

52. Kick for a fellow Kentuckian!

:hi:

[hopeisaplace]

53. oh my..he's a cancer!

that's veddy veddy intrst'ng...cause cancers tend to like me :yoiks: ...(I'm a leo..and many of my friends have been cancers...BUT they can be very clingy (at least the ones in my life..no offense the "good cancers"..and the ones in my life are very vendictive people and really HOLD A GRUDGE..I find them hard to relate to on that point..infact that's a pet peeve of mine - I'm not a fan of vengance.
Don't know any alchoholic cancerians though...

What sign is John Kerry?

[petronius]

55. I'm drunk right now - does that mean I'm GWB?

But you could be right: angry, sulky Georgie can be a joy to watch...

[Norquist Nemesis]

57. I'm a Cancer too!!

Unfortunately, I share a birthday with Rumsfeld and I'll NEVER get over it.

[DemBones DemBones]

58. Just sit back and

enjoy the fireworks! :popcorn:

[shrike]

59. For all our differences on DU

At least we're in complete agreement on one thing.:D

[DemBones DemBones]

62. In all probability,

we agree on more than one thing. ;-)

[BiggJawn]

64. Hey, how 'bout them Scorpios? LUV them Scorpio women!

I had a Scorpio Eff-buddy who could've suck-started USS Missouri and made Abbraxa look downright prudish...

Heard that ALL scorpio women are maniacs in bed... How 'bout it? True?