your donation to the Clark campaign may be paying for your e-mail address

[pruner]

The leaders of DraftWesleyClark.com, John Hlinko and Josh Margulies, had said before Clark entered the race, that they would only take a salary if anything were left over after paying for expenses. (See my September 3 column.) This week, they said they were asking the Clark campaign for reimbursement for their work, and they acknowledged that the amount of their request -- which they would not reveal -- had generated a fair amount of dissension in the campaign.

But, the two men pointed out, Federal Election Commission rules prohibit organizations from turning over e-mail lists to campaigns for free, so they couldn't have given away their product even if they had wanted to. They said their lawyers were in negotiations with the campaign over "fair market value" for the e-mail list.

Problems such as these aside, the campaign was happy to report Wednesday that DraftWesleyClark.com had come through, converting about half of the $1.9 million in pledges into actual dollar contributions in the third quarter.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31594-2003Oct15.html

[Julien Sorel]

1. Congratulations!

You almost achieved a new low in Dean fanboyism with this post; were the competition not so stiff, you would have easily won.

This has the classic elements of Deanism: it's disgustingly hypocritical, seeks to build Dean up by tearing others down, and, key for anything having to do with Dean, dishonest, from the subject line you posted (which, if it isn't gainst the rules, should be, since you twisted something in the piece out of context), to the intent of the post itself, which was simply to smear and rabble rouse.

I suppose we're regressing to the point where it will be mudslinging all day, every day again.

[pruner]

3. my subject line is factually accurate

:wtf: is Deanism?

[JNelson6563]

2. Wow! Impressive!

....converting about half of the $1.9 million in pledges into actual dollar contributions in the third quarter.

Those Draft Clark folks are a valuable asset to that campaign. I hope those running the campaign make the most of that.

Julie

[Kahuna]

4. How did Dean get my address? He bought it right?

That's what campaigns do. They buy lists. Sheesh. Talk about making a mountian out of a molehill. :eyes:

[pruner]

5. Dean doesn't need to buy e-mail addresses

hundreds of thousands of people give them to him for free.

I wasn't taking a dig at Clark. I was merely pointing out the irony — in regard to the requirement that he purchase the e-mail addresses from the draft clark people who got them for free… the same way Clark could have, and Dean has.

[mikehiggins]

6. Irony?

I don't get it. There is nothing ironic about what happened with that issue, unless it is the idea of people who supported a "draft" movement now trying to cash in by selling a list that people voluntarily signed on to. It's probably totally legal, etc., etc. but easily gotten around by the means Clark04 is using, i.e. setting up a webpage where interested volunteers can sign up.

At our meetups this week, for example, forms were available for all who wanted to volunteer that were then sent directly to Little Rock. I helped type up some of the hand-written names myself.

Personally, I think this whole issue is a little tacky but would point out it has nothing to do with the candidate himself as I'm sure fair-minded people would agree. ;^)

[Rowdyboy]

7. Same old, same old

Blow up silly irrelevencies, twist the truth, distort reality, trash your strongest opponent and pray you'll win. Like monkeys tossing crap cause its all they know how to do.

[Justice]

8. John Hlinko and Josh Margulies Are Digusting To Do This

Why Hlinko and Margulies start the DraftClark movement anyway - to make a buck or elect a candidate? I can see getting reimbursed for direct costs - but not more than that.

I for one pledged to donate to encourage Clark to run -- to show support for Clark not to increase the DraftClark invoice to the campaign. As soon as Clark announced, I contributed and signed up directly at the campaign. The campaign even asked if I was fulfilling a pledge (showing they appreciated the link between the draft effort and the campaign).

But if Hlinko and Margulies had let people know they were going to seek a finders fee for every pledge - (which in my view would have been far more honorable than their blackmail/hostage approach) - I would have refrained from pledging and simply shown my support directly to Wes Clark.

In fact I would go further - selling the names is a violation of the draft clark privacy policy!

[Renew Deal]

10. The last post was fiction.

Because your accusations and understanding of the issues is far more disgusting than anything Hlinko and Margulies did.

Maybe you don't understand the article. They said they would not take a salary from the draft movement. They never did. They ran it at a loss. They are hoping to regain some of the money they lost. Hlinko once said that this was the worst financial decision he has ever made and his credit cards are all maxed out.

I have no problem with their expenses being covered. It is a net loss, unless you count the value of Clark running.

A finder’s fee for every pledge? What are you talking about? Where did you come up with that? What blackmail approach? I'd love to see you back these things up. The campaign got the addresses first. They are dealing with money later.

"In fact I would go further - selling the names is a violation of the draft clark privacy policy! " How do you figure? They said they were going to hand over all of the information about the pledges to the campaign.

These accusations just sound like another Deanie baby having a tantrum.

[gulliver]

9. Actually, I made my contribution to

www.americansforclark.com

And will make another soon...