w don't have the CAJONES for this fight

[mopaul]

he is not used to fighting for anything, he's used to things being given to him by birthright. he does not have what it takes to fight this scandal, which is turning out to be a real knock down drag out battle. he's not made of tough stuff, not of d.c., and a real mental lightweight. first real debate about the lies told to go to war, and he'll implode. i even suspect that he may resign or fake ill health or hide behind laura, anything, but have to appear before panels and discuss complicated matters pertaining to war and peace and treason.

although i am not allowing myself to be joyful and happy, i do occassionally break out into something similar to a smile, and it makes my face hurt, cause we dems have had little to smile about lately.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

1. Never thought of it

but you're right. These people can't play dfefense, they can only bully and fight cakewalks

[HootieMcBoob]

4. The only problem is

he has a lot of other people who are willing to fight for him. The rest of the gop, the corporations, the partisan pundits and the rest of the media whores will fight and fight dirty. He's never had to fight before and they'll do everything in their power to see that he doesn't have to get his little hands dirty this time too.

The good thing about it is, with persistance he will fall and if he does the whole gop goes down with him because they've put everything they have into this puppet president and his pnac handlers.

[liberalhistorian]

9. That's right!

And eventually even those who support Smirk, as well as the average American, will start to see that and get tired of it. It may take awhile, but it does happen. And I think it's finally beginning to happen in this country now, people are finally starting to wake up just a little!

[King_Crimson]

2. This would be a good time...

for Senators Byrd and Graham to unleash an all out assault against this bunch of cowardly liars! I'd like to hear Byrd use the "IMPEACH" word!

[maveric]

28. You are right! Kick em while they are down...

pummel them while they are at their weakness.
Play their game for a change.

[Cha]

3. Yeah, bush has always been protected by the press,

the old dogs and darth vader. I can see rove now thinking of ways to keep him out of the front lines of press conferences and debates.

I mean all that money from their donor's tax cuts should buy something.

[GumboYaYa]

5. So true....

Chimpy already broke-down and forgot that inspectors were in Iraq
when he started the invasion.

If they don't extricate him from this mess soon, he will be an isolated and lonely president, like Nixon. THey can't let him answer questions in public and everywhere he goes there will be questions. To be honest an isolated and desperate *Bush really scares me.

[Beetwasher]

6. Yup. What he NEEDS to do is have a real press conference and

answer questions. That's what a REAL man would do. Take the fight head on, like Clinton did. But he and Cheney are too cowardly so they let others do the talking for them. That is why they will lose this battle. Because that alone shows the public that they're hiding something.

[Skittles]

7. enough with the BALLS references PLEASE

In case you don't know, W DOES HAVE BALLS AND HE'S STILL A BIG F***ING COWARD. Please STOP with the BALLS REFERENCES. THEY F***ING SUCK. x(

[mopaul]

10. o.k., now YOU have to remove the offensive word from YOUR post

balls, cajones, testicles, whatever...words are just words.
i MEANT to insult bush by implying he was less than a complete man, but i may have been too vulgar. men have balls, what can i say?
to infer that a man has none, is to imply that he is not a man at all, and is a coward. it's street lingo, everyone uses it, we are all adults here. lighten up a little.

[Skittles]

13. no

the real meaning is to imply they are not a man but a WOMAN. I WON'T LIGHTEN UP. It's OUTDATED. Find ANOTHER EXPRESSION.

[mopaul]

16. guts? intestinal fortitude? nerve? courage? spine? valor? pluck?

dauntlessness? galantry? grit? self-assurence? derring-do?
i used a thesaurus, and under the word courage, is also listed the word 'balls'. who writes these things?

[GumboYaYa]

15. I think the point was that

balls or cajones or whatever you call them, the implication is that it takes a man to be firm and strong. There are plenty of people with no balls or cajones (i.e. women) who have an abundance of personal fortitude.

The real issue is that we are all on the same team. We all agree that Bush doesn't have the "capacity" to fight this battle. I am absolutely certain that no offense was intended by your post and I hope this thread doesn't devolve into a battle over the words you chose. The substance of your post is dead spot on point.

[Skittles]

23. I JUST WANT DUers TO STOP REFERRING TO HAVING "BALLS"

as NECESSARY FOR COURAGE. It's F***ING INSULTING REGARDLESS OF WHAT WAS INTENDED.

[GumboYaYa]

25. That's exactly what I said.

:)

[indepat]

8. When almost every Republican in Congress will block any

investigation, tantamount to a cover-up and obstruction in my opinion, when the so-called felonious five will refuse to strike down even patently unconstitutional law, I wonder if he will ever have to fight. His supporters will, however, cover up, obstruct until the cows come home for they collectively know their house of cards, their entire agenda and ideology, are wholly corrupt and fallacious, so they will untimately wage a holy war rather than capitulate. Hopefully, I am wrong.

[gratuitous]

11. Unfortunately, I think you're right

This bunch of thieves isn't going to give back their swag just because they've been caught. They've also demonstrated (in Afghanistan and Iraq) that they don't mind killing folks to get their way.

This will be a pitched, intense battle. The good news is that it will be over relatively quickly, as intense battles always are. But there will be casualties (maybe even fatalities), and both sides will take hits, but it's necessary if we're going to wrench our country out of the grubby hands of these greedy bastards.

So gear up, get your game face on, and let's get to it. We haven't done very well up to this point, but we've got them backpedaling now, so it's time to seize the initiative.

[RegenerationMan]

12. Hello President Powell

We are looking at President Powell in a matter of months. Which would mean the Ds would have to run against the second black President (Clinton was the first). Powell did not use the Niger fib and he said in his UN presentation that the tubes were disputed, giving him deniability.

I'd rather run against Bush at this point, no? What did Powell draw of the black vote in polling back in 99-2000?

IMAGINE PRESIDENT KERRY!

[mopaul]

14. possible, but not probable

colin did his share of lying to go to war too, and is complicit in this as much as condi or any other of the crooks and liars. he has enjoyed a hollow and undeserved aura of respectability for years, but it's worn out after his shameful lying before the u.n. it'd tickle me pink if we had our first black president, and for it to come about in this way would be rich. don't forget, that's one of the republican's worst nightmares.....a black president

[RegenerationMan]

21. Yo Mo! Colin was in on it but that won't matter

Remember Powell didn't include Niger in his UN talk and cautioned that the tubes were phony. The public perception is he fought the neo-cons, made the WH go to the UN, etc. HE HAS ENOUGH DENIABILITY TO SURVIVE THIS. (unfortunately for us).

Look at the record of meetings and docs and how Powell protected himself against this. It's Powell using LIHOP on Bush! He gave him enough rope to hang himself and was deliberately not forceful in stopping the Niger claim I bet.

Remember Newt and the neo-cons tried to get rid of Powell months ago. I think that was the last straw. That was a declaration of war between the CIA rank anf file, State, old conservatives and moderates vs. the neo-cons.

And Alma was against the campaign and the running. Since Powell would be appointed, Colin can tell her "It's just another Government Job, Alma, I'll just have a new office. It's Oval." Colin would tell her it's an Emergency.

Go MOPAUL!!

IMAGINE PRESIDENT KERRY!!

[MarianJack]

17. Not a Snowballs chance in Hell!

Remember, it was the republican rught wing that turned on him when there was speculation about Powell '96 (I remember George Will's "Abesnt without leadership" article about him). Also, Mrs. Powell was UNALTERABLY opposed to his running.

The repubs would rather lose with bush than win with Powell.

[Richardo]

18. Was Powell born in Jamaica or is he of Jamaican descent but born here?

Pardon my ig-nernce. :shrug:

[RegenerationMan]

20. Powell is from Harlem--which he would win

Powell is from Harlem in New York City. Otherwise he would never have been considered for President before if he were foreign-born.

[lisafromstlouie]

19. I think he is going to fight this with everything he's got.

We haven't seen anything yet. Just wait. They'll come out blazing with both barrells. I don't know if they can turn this scandal around but it's wishful thinking if you surmise he doesn't have the balls to fight. I've been burned by this bunch of assholes too many times to get my hopes up.

[Beetwasher]

22. Bush doesn't, but others do.

Bush will cower behind others who will do his fighting for him. He most definitely does NOT have the constitution or wherewithal or the intelligence to fight anyone. He's the ultimate coward and he's too stupid to even understand the issue. A real man would have already had a press conference. So, you're wrong. He's not going to do a damn thing except maybe read statements others wrote for him. He won't answer questions, he won't take responsibility, and he won't personally make a single decision regarding this fiasco...So, what are you talking about?

[lisafromstlouie]

24. He has too much riding on his "credibility" to give up without a fight.

Surely, you don't think he's just going to lay down and let the dems keep trashing his credibility do you? As I said, I don't know if he can turn this issue around but we'll see, won't we?

[RegenerationMan]

26. With Powell in, the GOP can war, keep Patriot Act, 9-11 covered & TIA

After Poppy Bush calls him up and tells him it's time, W will take his pillow and GLADLY go back to the ranch. He only ever just wanted to be the Baseball Commissioner, you know--not the President! He HAD to do that...


IMAGINE PRESIDENT KERRY!!

[Beetwasher]

27. As I said, HE isn't going to do a damn thing except read prepared

statements. What is it about that statement that you fail to understand? Others will fight for him, he will hardly lift a finger or make any kind of decision. Others will tell him what to do, what to say and how to act. I wouldn't call that fighting, would you? When he steps in front of cameras and holds a real live press conference on the matter, I'll say I'm wrong. Do you think he's going to do that? Wanna bet?

[Bake]

29. I agree: W ain't got the cojones for it.

Look at his few, feeble, unscripted comments:

"darn good intelligence." Oh really, W? Then what's all the fuss about in the first place? Oh, that's right. You got darn good intelligence and just chose to ignore it.

"it's because Saddam wouldn't let the inspectors in." That one's too stupid to even merit response, other than his handlers saying "I think what he meant to say was ..."

IF (and it's a big "if" but I'm cautiously optimistic) this story keeps traction and he is continually called on to defend it, the Boy King will not handle it well. He'll retreat into only scripted appearances, leaving his evil minions to do his dirty work, proving MoPaul's point.

Do I think he'll RESIGN? Hell no. Do I think he'll be impeached? Not with the Puke congressional majority marching in lockstep.

But do I think this is an issue we can use in 2004? DAMN STRAIGHT!!

Bake