"We will never give in, and we will never accept anything less than complete victory." Bush speech on 'National Strategy for Victory in Iraq'
http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__international_news/&articleid=258216"Iraq right now is the central front on the war on terror, whether we like it or not," DeLay told about 200 soldiers and their families at a banquet held in their honor. "Our choice is not between different visions of victory but between victory and surrender. Only one choice is worth the legacy of the United States and the heroes she has lost in this conflict. Victory is our choice."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-12-04-delay-soldiers_x.htmSo what is victory in this battle? First of all, it is not victory in Europe day, it is not victory in Japan day, it is not something where there will be a signing ceremony. In Iraq, short term it is steady progress in political, economic and security; in the midterm, it's Iraqi lead in all of those categories; and in the long term is a free and peaceful Iraq living at peace with its neighbors and no longer hospitable to terrorist acts. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Pace-
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/051202/2005120225.htmlThe debate is not about "an artificial date for withdrawal," Kerry said. For Democrats, it's about "an estimated timetable for success."
http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1365983.html. . . according to a poll by Gallup released by CNN and USA Today. 55 per cent of respondents believe George W. Bush does not have a plan that will achieve victory for the U.S. in Iraq.
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=10061US Congressman John Murtha said a BBC report that US president Bush's plan for victory in Iraq is mere "rhetoric."
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/051202/2005120227.html Calls for 'victory' or success in Iraq by Bush and some Democrats only serve as a continuation of the con job that sold many Americans on the Iraq invasion in the first place. Calls for victory or success there is an invitation to a perpetual war that could be escalated to achieve it, as Nixon did after telling everyone he was getting our soldiers out. Any U.S. plan that relies on the military to achieve victory at this point is a prescription for a widening war as we saw in Cambodia at the end of the Vietnam war. One more shifting of a political line on the map, at the expense of more of our soldier's lives, before they claim whatever victory they imagine there.
There will be no victory or success that comes out of this manufactured, illegal, and immoral war. Our soldiers were misguided into bombing and killing thousands of Iraqis who had never threatened our country, even remotely. They didn't succeed in even gaining the support of those Bush professes to want to help. They didn't achieve anything close to democracy out of elections fostered by the heavy hand of our military. We bombed their country into a pre-industrial state and still haven't put it back together.
There will be no victory or success out of our involvement in Iraq. It is, and will continue to be with our military forces deployed there, a complete and utter failure. Nothing, not even withdrawing our soldiers from Iraq, can change that.