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trailrunners (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 12:50 PM Original message |
Hugo Chavez is my Hero! |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. He's my hero too. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Oh yes |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. Here's The Citgo Locator... |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 01:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. In my area, Citgo gas is one of the more expensive gases on average... |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. here too, but... |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
68. That's my thinking too. I'd rather help build a middle class in Venezuela |
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a b negative (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 11:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
78. Chicago cheapest gas = Citgo |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. He's pretty much the only great leader in the world today. n/t |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 01:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. What?!? Not Castro? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. pssst. the cold war is over. n/t |
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NorthELiberal (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. "pssst. the cold war is over." |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 11:21 AM Response to Reply #30 |
80. Take a look at Latin America... |
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NorthELiberal (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 04:35 AM Response to Reply #80 |
113. Let's hope they are just socialists.......... |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. I only buy my gas from CITGO... my little way of supporting Chavez |
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GrumpyGreg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. JFK must be rolling over in his grave knowing that his |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Chavez is not a Communist! |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Chavez, Castro, Bay of Pigs WTF is wrong with these people? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. JFK hated his advisers on The Bay of Pigs more. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. The Bay of Pigs was planned before Kennedy came to office.... |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Bush 1... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Chavez is an avowed democratic socialist, not a Stalinist socialist |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. and one who lets foreign and nonforeign (I'm sure) business owners know |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. It would be a good idea if you provided a direct link to back up |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Talk to people who do business in Venezuela |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. So there's no link. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I'm not giving friend's phone numbers so I guess not |
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newblewtoo (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. How about this link |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. You failed to look at the HRW report in context. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. thank you... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. people have an inherent distrust of him |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #64 |
91. Not to mention the constant drum beat of; Socialism! Communism! |
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SeattleRob (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. huh??? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
90. Talk to the people that live there and see which government they prefer |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
48. Sounds like the work of a few low-level hoodlums and zealots |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. Chavez is a communist?? |
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GrumpyGreg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. If it talks like a duck,walks like a duck-----------well,you know. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Chavez talks like a socialist and walks like a social democrat |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Anti-Chavez types have no fucking clue what they're talking about. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. I'm not a fan, but he isn't a Communist |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
69. Psst, the Communist Parties in VZ are consider the Chavez OPPOSITION |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #69 |
87. The Communist Party of Venezuela is part of Chavez's coalition. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:02 AM Response to Reply #87 |
100. If they are now, they weren't a couple months ago when Gott published his |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:28 AM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Movimiento al Socialismo varies. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #103 |
110. Just checked Gott's book. Yes. THE Communist Party supports Chavez. |
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SeveneightyWhoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 04:51 PM Response to Reply #69 |
94. LOL, don't be silly! |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:03 AM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Yes. I know. It's sort of a brick wall that you hit in these discussions. |
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NorthELiberal (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 04:48 AM Response to Reply #101 |
114. I am not one of those people who are calling Chavez............ |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #114 |
116. If being a loudmouth helps the illiterate learn to read, feeds the hungry, |
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the_real_38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. Viva Chavez! |
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Union Thug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. GO GO HUGO!!! VIVA CHAVEZ!!! n/t |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. Just to go on record. I would never be foolish enough to have a.. |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. So let me state that in this case I am proud to be considered foolish... |
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trailrunners (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Actions are heroic |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You are right and I'm just going along with the way people express |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. how about a soldier? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
53. Well, he did try to overthrow the gov. in the 90s |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. not so sure... |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
93. The coup in '92 was his doing, but it had lot of support. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. He led a coup against a man who was later impeached for corruption |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 04:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Thanks for that. |
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NorthELiberal (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 04:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. "This is classic "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" logic." |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Did you even read the original post in this thread? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. Sorry, but Bush does not equal America... |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. Yep |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
71. I think the meme that Chavez hates Bush is right wing spin that started |
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SeveneightyWhoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
95. Um, no, Chavez really does hate Bush. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:00 AM Response to Reply #95 |
99. Chavez has fought for the poor as president for seven years. |
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SeveneightyWhoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #99 |
118. Agreed. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. I think 99% of time Chavez is talking about what he's for. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
31. I dunno |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
76. I donno, 'cause I'm readin' Richard Gott's book on Chavez. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
121. Well, if you're reading a book on Chavez, |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. "Liberator" refers to Simon Bolivar not Chavez. n/t |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
33. Viva Chavez! Fuera Bush! nm |
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joegodfather88 (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
34. One of the few |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Just be sure not to criticize Chavez while you're there! nt |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. thanks for one of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen at DU |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Really? |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 09:41 AM Response to Reply #51 |
63. Maybe a response to the large numbers of violent coup attempts |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
88. Probably |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #88 |
120. Just about every political party in Venezuela that has had the presidency |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Probably not |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Yah, they might make you the CEO of a media company or something. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Would you want this law? |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #52 |
66. Aren't you suspicous about the claims about this law since the media |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. Suspicions & reasons |
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dennisnyc (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Rachel Maddow has been a source of scepticism. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #82 |
92. Who on the left is embracing Chavez? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
123. Support |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. You mean the way most of the Venezuelan media does? n/t |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
58. Chavez's actions are politically motivated, is that what you are saying? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I should've been more clear |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #35 |
67. I've watched people in Venezuela call for his assassination on the street |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
36. I love Chavez! I worry about his safety too. The PIGS are after him. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
49. Yep, my hero too, and never forget he call bush* for what he is |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
50. kcik |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
57. With what I saw today, he is more than a leader of his own people... |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. You'd think, but then there is a west texas moran in boots and hat |
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dennisnyc (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #57 |
73. he has a continental vision. This is a good thing to balance bushco power. |
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dennisnyc (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
70. Venezuela and Argentina have the strongest economies in Latin |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Joseph Stiglitz's Globalization and its Discontents argues: |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Neoliberal economics seems to be based around economic exploitation |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. It definitely helps create a landscape where the powerful can exploit the |
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dennisnyc (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. now we have lawyers...AND BANKERS! |
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RepublicanElephant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
72. apparently, there's been another assasination attempt... |
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dennisnyc (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. and for proof that the cia was involved in the coup attempt visit |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:58 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Nonsense! This is commie nonsense! |
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dennisnyc (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. oh, ok, i take it back, all of it! Just let me return to my cubicle in |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
85. If I had to choose between dictators, I'll take Chavez over Bush any day. |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Bush stole at least one election, perhaps two. |
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RepublicanElephant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. and without any help from diebold... |
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Orrin_73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
97. My hero too |
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Raydawg1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
98. Oh Come on Fredo Corleone |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:32 AM Response to Reply #98 |
104. BBC's stats are wrong. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:37 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Nevermind that the link is from 2002 n/t |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:27 AM Response to Reply #106 |
111. I bet the BBC doesn't write a story lauding Chavez now that he's doing |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:32 AM Response to Reply #98 |
105. BBC's stats are wrong. |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:37 AM Response to Reply #98 |
107. The plans were severely disrupted by the coup and the oil strike. |
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Raydawg1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:56 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Why don't you move to Venezuela then? |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 01:15 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Why don't you have any better argument than that? n/t |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 06:31 AM Response to Reply #98 |
115. So it's taking Chavez more then one year to ban poverty |
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LuCifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
102. Cheapest in Okeechobee |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
112. I'm tired of shortbus voters and the leaders they "elect" |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
117. He's got my support! |
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