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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 07:23 AM Original message |
once and for all: meat eating is the cause of most human illness |
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Sun Dec-11-05 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
1. ! |
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kanrok
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Oh, yeah...popcorn is bad for you also. |
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Angry Girl
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:28 AM Response to Reply #36 |
114. It is actually: Popcorn is the #1 cause of tooth erosion below the gumline |
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #114 |
128. I didn't know that! Thank you for sharing! |
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Angry Girl
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #128 |
146. That's possibly because of the high carb content |
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #114 |
137. I haven't had that problem |
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lastknowngood
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Sun Dec-11-05 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. And most human survival. |
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rucky
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Sun Dec-11-05 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
3. I turned (semi) vegetarian about 2 weeks ago. |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
4. Also our planet is being destroyed by the process of raising |
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awoke_in_2003
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
19. And don't forget |
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phylny
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Sun Dec-11-05 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
5. You say: |
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Spinzonner
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. And it is possible that your Grandmother has undetected cancer |
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phylny
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. She's 95 years old! And healthy. |
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Spinzonner
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:52 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Good for her |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #33 |
60. You've got to be kidding. |
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Spinzonner
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:18 AM Response to Reply #60 |
72. YOU have got to be kidding |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. My issue |
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Spinzonner
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #78 |
85. There you go again |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Fine. |
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Spinzonner
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #90 |
104. Stick to facts |
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RagingInMiami
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #85 |
112. So all of us carnivores are dying a slow death |
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Viva_La_Revolution
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:28 AM Response to Reply #112 |
115. If I had only known those cheeseburgers were going to give me |
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mcscajun
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Sun Dec-11-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #112 |
175. I go along with Fatburger on this one... |
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TankLV
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #85 |
127. Yes you did and you know it. |
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phylny
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
136. You're so right! It also doesn't mean that she has any disease at all. n/t |
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all.of.me
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
44. my mother is 92 |
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suziedemocrat
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
58. I've been veg since 1986 - but I don't think it will keep me from disease. |
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Thirtieschild
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
120. My mother is 97 |
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DoYouEverWonder
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Sun Dec-11-05 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
6. Would you like to back up your statements |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Herman Aihara: acid and alkaline |
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TommyO
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:21 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Is Herman a doctor? |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. We so readily except the concept of military industrial complex |
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smoogatz
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
43. Nonsense. According to you, anyone could make any ridiculous health |
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derby378
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
135. I'll take that as a big "NO" |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. from www.focus-on-nutrition.com |
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RagingInMiami
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
117. That website sells health products and quotes Bible verses |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
48. Blood very rarely becomes that acidic. |
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giant_robot
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Sun Dec-11-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
171. Anybody with one semester of college-level biochemistry... |
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muriel_volestrangler
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Sun Dec-11-05 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. And you have some proper scientific backup for your claims, do you? |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 07:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. From healingdaily.com |
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laruemtt
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. we have a sign on our fridge: |
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DrRang
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
40. So why do humans have 27 enzymes to digest meat? n/t |
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jeffrey_X
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
143. link? |
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RagingInMiami
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
119. Guess what? |
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Spinzonner
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. And of course anything your read or hear on a web site must be true ... |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. absolutely, Ha Ha! |
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RagingInMiami
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:33 AM Response to Reply #24 |
121. What about my right to eat meat |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
22. I do not advocate eating raw meat. My point is that all |
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Lindacooks
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
99. You don't get enzymes from eating plants - they're denatured in the |
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SidDithers
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:31 AM Response to Reply #99 |
118. Now, don't go bringing facts and science... |
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High Plains
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Sun Dec-11-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
173. I don't want to spend all day grazing. |
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Vinca
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
12. I agree with the original poster, but when you stop eating meat, |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. I love gormet rices and I eat lots of nut butters, almond, macademia etc |
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organik
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
161. WHAT? |
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ShadesOfGrey
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
162. I've been a vegetarian for 30 years... |
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smoogatz
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
13. Nothing like a little pseudo-medical nonsense to start the day. |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Read my above post with sources: |
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Strong Atheist
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
14. PETA, |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. we will all die but do we have to die in pain and suffering? |
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Strong Atheist
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:49 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Actually, since our teeth |
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ShadesOfGrey
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
165. Whatever floats yer boat! |
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mcscajun
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Sun Dec-11-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
177. I believe there's a place for all of nature's creatures... |
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da_chimperor
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
17. Meat eating is also the best way to retain muscle mass in old age. |
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MadisonProgressive
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:07 AM Response to Reply #17 |
63. First link in this thread - Congratulations! |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #63 |
77. I do not know how to make the link connect to the source but |
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da_chimperor
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:05 AM Response to Reply #63 |
107. Thanks. |
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sabate
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
21. Ortolan recipe |
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rqstnnlitnmnt
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:07 AM Response to Reply #21 |
37. ok i'll say it |
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kanrok
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:08 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. I'll bet it tastes like chicken. |
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RagingInMiami
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:37 AM Response to Reply #21 |
123. My recipe for Buffalo wings is based on that |
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derby378
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
156. Noooooooo, thank you |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
25. Meat eating is also the reason humans as we know them exist at all. |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Where is your source of facts: |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
50. I have two words for you: |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:18 AM Response to Reply #50 |
71. What illness would they endure? |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. That's utter nonsense. |
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druidity33
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
51. Maori? |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #51 |
75. I always thought health problems could be corrected by diet |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:38 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. It's a more complex problem, though. |
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druidity33
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #75 |
138. i read too... |
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Beacho
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
139. I think you mean the Masai |
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druidity33
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:54 PM Response to Reply #139 |
147. yes, yes, oops... |
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Crunchy Frog
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:08 AM Response to Reply #32 |
64. Actually, alot of those isolated societies eat a fair amount of meat. |
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druidity33
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #64 |
130. unfortunately there are toxins |
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shrike
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #25 |
93. This poster is right. |
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RagingInMiami
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
125. I've read that before |
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PhilipShore
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
29. Good article- I will not eat meat again. |
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FlaGranny
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
49. Has it ever occured to you that hot dogs |
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PhilipShore
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:45 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Yes |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:01 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. They said what?! |
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TallahasseeGrannie
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
31. My college roommate was a vegetarian since childhood |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:55 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Vegetarian does not mean non animal eating. |
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calico1
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Sun Dec-11-05 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
34. I think we all need to do what is best for us. |
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kanrok
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
39. I follow that great scientist/philospher Joe Jackson on this issue |
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Jim Sagle
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
41. Chickenshit bullshit. |
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
42. Does this mean I get to force my beliefs on you now? |
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PhilipShore
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
45. Dr. James Howenstine-High Meat Intake Appears To Cause Cancer |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
46. Ummm . . . then why do vegetarians still get cancer and h.d.? |
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FlaGranny
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
47. Then tell me why |
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calico1
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Good points. |
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jbnow
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
66. I think you're right |
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FlaGranny
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #66 |
76. Much of the food we eat bears |
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IndyOp
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #47 |
94. It isn't just 'meat' - it is what is now in 'modern meat' -- |
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calico1
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:03 AM Response to Reply #94 |
105. You are right. |
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IndyOp
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. You are right about the veggies too -- |
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calico1
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. That is exactly what I have started doing. |
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
54. these things are always good for 5 recommends |
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ananda
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Sun Dec-11-05 09:52 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Overeating anything can cause problems... |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:44 AM Response to Reply #54 |
88. you failed to read the entire article: |
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #88 |
141. his point was not to be suckered, period |
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
57. Your BODY is NEVER ACID.. Blood pH |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Thank you! |
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Enraged_Ape
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:11 AM Response to Reply #57 |
68. When did facts ever get in the way of anyone spouting nutrition advice... |
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FlaGranny
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #57 |
79. Thanks, I had been thinking the same thing, but |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #57 |
95. read my above post: you could say the same about sugars |
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tyedyeto
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
59. According to all the recent threads: |
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fishnfla
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
61. wrong,wrong,wrong |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #61 |
98. How come animals in the wild don't get sick from germs and |
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Lindacooks
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:58 AM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Animals in the wild don't get sick from germs, in other words, they |
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fishnfla
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #98 |
131. You are also neglecting the fact of genetics |
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Nobody
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
65. Non-meat eaters DO TOO get osteoporosis |
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jim3775
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
67. More self-righteous bullshit |
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Walt Starr
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
69. Had a nice, juicy, bloody, medium rare piece of PRIME RIB last night |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #69 |
86. I'm vegetarian because I'm sick. |
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shrike
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:52 AM Response to Reply #86 |
97. I grew up on a farm, too |
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calico1
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. And this is how most of our grandparents and |
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PhilipShore
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
70. Study Finds 95% of Non-Organic Poultry Contaminated with Feces ... |
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Crunchy Frog
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:49 AM Response to Reply #70 |
91. That's why it needs to be cooked well. |
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leftofthedial
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
73. and so is the absence of meat eating |
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Crunchy Frog
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
80. I'm getting tired of these threads that attack other people's |
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rainy
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:03 AM Response to Reply #80 |
106. Here are facts about the HCL and your stomach that you asked for: |
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madeline_con
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
81. This certainly became a controversial topic. |
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calico1
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #81 |
89. Its not so much the adoption of meat |
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madeline_con
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:56 AM Response to Reply #89 |
100. Agreed. |
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calico1
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #100 |
113. Cats cannot survive on a vegetarian |
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madeline_con
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:39 AM Response to Reply #113 |
124. I know that.... |
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calico1
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #124 |
133. Oh, ok. |
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evirus
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:49 AM Response to Reply #81 |
92. well when in abundence |
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madeline_con
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:07 AM Response to Reply #92 |
108. Yes, boredom eating is easy to do. |
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noamnety
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
83. Vegetarians have a lower life expectancy |
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salvorhardin
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #83 |
144. Oh great |
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evirus
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
84. say what you will |
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enki23
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
87. wow, what a load of crap |
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PhilipShore
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
96. Dr. Joe Cummins: Transgenic Meat Scandal |
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Dirty Hippie
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Sun Dec-11-05 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
103. My $.02 |
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BeFree
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
110. Interesting thread |
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Macman44
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
116. Riiiiiight |
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Angry Girl
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
122. Meat not the only acid-forming stuff we eat. Sugar & high carbs |
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SidDithers
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
126. These posts are always good for a laugh... |
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Neil Lisst
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #126 |
129. veggies do make you one thing |
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #129 |
140. I think that's a myth. Since I gave up red meat & added more veggies |
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. How come nobody makes a meter for that |
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Sun Dec-11-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #126 |
169. Perhaps you could learn how to ignore? |
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Sun Dec-11-05 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
132. once and for all: we're all gonna die! |
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
134. A conspiracy theory and non-organic supermarkets in New England and Repugs |
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johnnie
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
142. I agree with you but |
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #142 |
148. this whole culture |
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johnnie
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:01 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. I agree |
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #150 |
151. I'll tell you |
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johnnie
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. That one bugs me too |
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Stick of death? |
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Sun Dec-11-05 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
149. Living |
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. Amen |
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Sun Dec-11-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #149 |
174. Finally, the true voice of reason |
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
155. funny thing about these carniore vs vegetarian arguments... |
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. You make a compelling argument. Now I must eat you. |
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #155 |
158. You may be right |
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Sun Dec-11-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #155 |
168. Eat what humans have evolved to eat --- Paleolithic Diet |
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Sun Dec-11-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. Sound like a good idea, except - |
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
159. Simply Not True- In Fact Very False |
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #159 |
164. i agree, mostly |
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Guy Fawkes
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
160. Most things will kill you sooner or later. |
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
163. Give me meat or give me death! |
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Sun Dec-11-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. Give me pizza or give me death!! |
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Sun Dec-11-05 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
166. Who cares about health, environmentalism is the reason! |
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Sun Dec-11-05 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
172. As a vegetarian, let me say that this claim is purely absurd. |
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Sun Dec-11-05 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
176. I have to call BULLSHIT |
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Sun Dec-11-05 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
178. I'm locking this thread |
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